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Kal, did you read the links I posted?  There are a number of references in these links to Kevin designing speakers.  Are all of these references false?  I have no inside info, but why would Kevin lie or not correct the interviewer?  Or did Stereophile screw it up?

 

Alse, the quote still seems to give Kevin some credit for some aspects of design.  My understanding has always been they design with a team approach.  No one person is solely responsible for designing the entire speaker.

 

 


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34 minutes ago, Blake said:

Kal, did you read the links I posted?  There are a number of references in these links to Kevin designing speakers.  Are all of these references false?  I have no inside info, but why would Kevin lie or not correct the interviewer?  Or did Stereophile screw it up?

No but I didn't express an opinion on the matter nor do I know what Stereophile published on the matter.

 

35 minutes ago, Blake said:

Alse, the quote still seems to give Kevin some credit for some aspects of design.  My understanding has always been they design with a team approach.  No one person is solely responsible for designing the entire speaker.

That is my understanding.


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I personally thought helping Chris choose new speakers was more interesting.  (No criticism, I'm the last person to be bugging anyone about going OT.)


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3 hours ago, rickca said:

This is a fun thread because I've never heard of some of the brands people are mentioning.

@The Computer Audiophile does your search for new speakers mean that we will see some speaker reviews from you?

Not sure yet. Speakers aren’t really in my wheelhouse like DACs and digital, so I want to make sure I can offer this community something of value for their time spent reading. 


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Seems most recommendations will move you sonically sideways. If you want to move forward, more transparent drivers are in order. Think about a pair of Masterpiece Series Martin Logans with proper room treatment or a pair of Vapor Perfect Storms. My 2 cents.

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23 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Not sure yet. Speakers aren’t really in my wheelhouse like DACs and digital, so I want to make sure I can offer this community something of value for their time spent reading. 

Throw out the need to a dozen or so of your favorite manufacturers. Whoever offers you the best deal, hopefully free, take it. ;)

Then just DSP to taste.


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On 8/7/2018 at 8:52 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

Not sure yet. Speakers aren’t really in my wheelhouse like DACs and digital, so I want to make sure I can offer this community something of value for their time spent reading. 

Crickey Chris, I looked at your listing for the TADs. I didn't realize that they were quite that expensive.

You can get a new pair of Salon2s straight across if you get your asking price for the TADs.

Maybe I need to take a ride on Space X & check out speakers in the ionosphere ?

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1 hour ago, austinpop said:

Yikes, wow they are a TAD pricey! ?

 

They're quite nice though.  :) 


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13 hours ago, ShawnC said:

Here's the latest on the new PS Audio's speakers

 

 

"Baby, Mama, and Papa bear all use the same single 12" woofer for the bottom end, only the size of the amp changes?" Hummmmmmmmm. 

The original IRS V used 6 12" woofers per channel.

IRS killers, I don't think so.

You can't change the laws of physics.


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On 8/7/2018 at 11:20 AM, The Computer Audiophile said:

I'm so tempted by Sound Lab but I just don't think I can make them work. Same with the new Maggie 30.7.

They do like room, and I love my A3s. FWIW, there is sufficient tech to make servo controlled sub woofers that will integrate with them.


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3 hours ago, Sal1950 said:

"Baby, Mama, and Papa bear all use the same single 12" woofer for the bottom end, only the size of the amp changes?" Hummmmmmmmm. 

The original IRS V used 6 12" woofers per channel.

IRS killers, I don't think so.

You can't change the laws of physics.

It's not based on the 4 piece IRS V, It's based the prototype that eventually became the V, that's shown in the video.


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On 8/7/2018 at 11:20 AM, The Computer Audiophile said:

I'm so tempted by Sound Lab but I just don't think I can make them work. Same with the new Maggie 30.7.

Clearly with speakers the caliber you are considering a home audition is in order so yiu could hear for yourself whether they would work or not. I’ve head the 20.7’s in some tight rooms sound superb. 


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dunno how you feel about the esthetics but here is a rather small room used by an electronics factory near you for testing...

 

why not make an 'official' visit to Audio Research??

 

you can talk about DACs and then ask about Maggies (IIRC, they also test on Sonus Fabers)

Magnepan 20.7 speakers in Warren Gehl's listening test room at the ARC factory_9.jpg


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17 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

dunno how you feel about the esthetics but here is a rather small room used by an electronics factory near you for testing...

 

why not make an 'official' visit to Audio Research??

 

you can talk about DACs and then ask about Maggies (IIRC, they also test on Sonus Fabers)

Magnepan 20.7 speakers in Warren Gehl's listening test room at the ARC factory_9.jpg

Also call Wendell at Magnepan and set up a visit. Super nice folks there. 


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PMC MB2 se. Those requires lots of power. No so compatible with every amplification.

With 600W Brystons they where impressive.

 

https://pmc-speakers.com/products/consumer/se-series/mb2-se

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7 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Another guy setup a terrible network that couldn’t even stream audio and caused the dealer’s network based audio products to fail all testing.

 

Kind of amazing but not surprising that this is the current state of computer network expertise in the high end audio world. 


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The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein

Computer, Audirvana -> router -> 2 Cisco switches connected by optical Ethernet -> microRendu -> USPCB -> ISO Regen (powered by LPS-1) -> Ghent JSSG360 USB cable -> Pro-Ject Pre Box S2 DAC -> Spectral DMC-12 & DMA-150 -> Vandersteen 3A Signature.

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My view as an interested participant is that you rooom is going to have a huge influence. 

I also agree with others that ideally you should have an active and a passive setup.

Putting that aside and as I from the Land Down Under.

In Australia we have a few fantastic speaker builders/designers (in no order):

Kyron 

Legend  - Dr Crawford who worked for Linn

SGR  - already mentioned 

Osborn - read the reviews, some world renowned reviewers reckon they are very good. I own a pair of Eclipse Reference speakers.

Lenehan - best kept secret in the world.

@The Computer Audiophile- do yourself a favour, and even if it is just to do a review, contact Mike Lenehan here in Australia to get a pair of his ML5's. Top of the range is less than $25K Australian and they are seriously good. (He is the manufacturer of Curious cables).

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