A novel way to massively improve the SQ of computer audio streaming

austinpop · October 2, 2019

1 hour ago, bobfa said:

I did not think that the LPS-1.2 would run the TXUSBUltra. I will try to start with that when mine arrives from Audiosensibility. I am torn by power supply selection and I am not going to rush.

The big variable is the amount of current the DAC attached to the tX-USBultra draws. If that pushes the total draw over 1.1A, the LPS-1.2 won’t work.

That said, most people have not reported an issue.

Metnoc · October 2, 2019

Just confirmed that I will receive two Farad units for a test.
A 12V for my sms200ultra and a 19V for my roon core server.
The 12V has Furutech rhodium connector and Synergistic research blue fuse, the 19V Furutech rhodium connector and standard fuse.
I have a Uptone lps 1.2 for my endpoint for comparison and the system is of sufficient quality to reveal quite minor differences.
Will report back next week.
https://faradpowersupplies.com/shop/en/home/42-7761-super3-power-supply.html

Energy · October 3, 2019

AMD NUC UPDATE 🤪

I will be the first to try an AMD NUC (mini-PC), to put it more precisely the ASROCK iBOX-V1000. <-- Link is provided for purchase.

According to Eric Yui who works at MITXPC, he says there is a delivery from ASROCK next week that should come in. Fremont where his company is stationed at is a 30 minutes drive from where I live. I will be picking up the unit once it arrives.

The unit is similar to a Intel NUC7i7DNHE in the case being a QUAD CORE (V1605B)

But unlike the Intel, it comes with a fanless case so there is no more need for a Akasa Plato X7D Slim.

More Information:

ASROCK iBOX-V1000: http://asrock.pc.cdn.bitgravity.com/Download/e-catalog/iBOX-V1000.pdf

AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000 Series (Zen) : https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/ryzen_embedded#V1000_Series_.28Zen.29

Comparison:

AMD's V1605B (ASROCK iBOX-V1000)

4C/8T (Threads)

2GHz - 3.6GHz (Turbo)

L2 Cache: 2MB

L3 Cache: 4MB

RAM: DDR-2400

TDP 15W

Intel's i7-8650U (Intel NUC7i7DNHE)

4C/8T (Threads)

1.9GHz - 4.2GHz (Turbo)

L2 Cache: 1MB

L3 Cache: 8MB

RAM: DDR-2400

TDP 15W

From specification alone, the draw back is that it has a lower turbo clock and L3 cache.

The advantage is having the same TDP, more L2 cache, additional Ethernet input, and support for ECC RAM and Linux.

I have good faith that the AMD's CPU performance can beat the Intel's.

From graphics alone their AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 already scores higher than the Intel UHD Graphics 620.
https://laptopmedia.com/comparisons/amd-radeon-rx-vega-8-vs-intel-uhd-graphics-620-the-vega-8-is-nearly-twice-faster-than-its-opponent/

Today I spent all morning looking for RAM.

I found these three so far. If anyone can help me that would be appreciated.

THEY MUST FOLLOW THE FOLLOWING: 8GB, 2400MHz, ECC, Industrial or Wide Temperature (WT), SODIMM (260PIN)

KMan · October 4, 2019

I had the opportunity to visit @austinpop and spend a few hours to do some comparisons last Sunday. Rajiv is a great host and we had a good time discussing and comparing notes. Some of the objectives of my visit were

I was most interested in hearing the cumulative effect of all the tweaks Rajiv has done. I have been following this thread almost since its inception and right now use a NUC end-point running Roon bridge and connected to HMS and Chord DAVE. My NUC is wirelessly connected (thanks to @lmitche ) to my Roon server.
Compare Chord Hugo TT2 vs Chord DAVE on Rajiv’s setup, both being fed upsampled signal from Chord HMS.
To compare Roon-bridge and Euphony end-point.
To hear the effect of Master clock.
To hear what difference my Sound Application TT-7 power conditioner made.

When I got there, he already had his system plugged in to a TT-7 he had on loan. The playlist I had shared were also ready to go. We did not know the vintage of the TT-7 other than that it was older than what I had. Jim Weil of Sound application keeps tweaking and improving his power conditioners, so it is hard to know what has changed.

We first listened to a few soundtracks via HMS and TT2. The first thing that caught my attention was there was certain sweetness/smoothness to sound and pitch black background in comparison to my setup. I felt this signature was the cumulative effect of all the care that went into setting up the digital front-end in Rajiv’s setup. We were using headphones that were relatively easy to drive and no amplifier was needed. This was the ideal way to do a direct comparison of TT2 and DAVE.

We then connected the Chord DAVE I had brought to HMS and with the first track we listened to, both of us agreed that the difference was profound compared to TT2. There was a noticeable improvement in depth and air. The difference was more profound than what I had expected (I had thought the Hugo M-Scalar may level the field), I am still surprised that the 10 elements pulse array of TT2 vs 20 elements of DAVE made such an improvement.

For most of our listening, music was being streamed from Roon Core to StylusEP (end-point) both running on Euphony OS on the same server. When Rajiv switched to a Roon-bridge from StylusEP, the sound-stage collapsed and there was less air. I was quite surprised by this. The scale of change is what I would expect when swapping out component such as a DAC or Amp not when there is a software level change. Hearing this alone made my trip! I was eager to replicate this on my setup. When the Roon core was swapped for the Stylus player, I heard an uptick in SQ along similar lines but not the same scale. I felt switching to StylusEP was the biggest jump (85%) while switching out Roon Core added another 15%. It was a relief as Roon core is indispensable to me and I can live with the slight loss in sQ.

I never had the opportunity to hear first-hand what difference the master clock made to audio chain. Switching Ref 10 Master clock on and off made an audible difference, a bit more air a little smoother but the change was less than what I expected and the scale of change was less than what I heard when switching between Roon-bridge and StylusEP.

Finally we swapped the TT-7 Rajiv had on loan for my newer TT-7. When we started listening, I heard the improved speed and transient attack I am used to hearing but I felt something was off as the sound-stage seemed slightly diminished. Rajiv agreed and while trying to figure out what was wrong, he found that his JCAT Net card was not being powered by Farad 3. It was inadvertent, but we got to validate the advantage of powering the Net card using an external LPS. Once plugged in, we heard a clear improvement with the new TT-7 in terms of transient speed and clarity.

Once back to my system, I missed some of the magic I heard at @austinpop’s. I downloaded and burnt a trial version of Euphony OS on a USB stick. With some back and forth help from Rajiv and Željko I got StylusEP running on Ramroot on my wireless NUC. I am happy to report, I hear a similar bump in SQ when I switched from Roon-bridge to StylusEP.

I wish to thank @austinpop for having me and look forward to similar meetings in the future.

austinpop · October 4, 2019

Excellent writeup @KMan! Thanks for bringing over your audio goodies to try. To aid in clarity, here's my current topology that I posted recently, but repeat here for readers' benefit:

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When I got there, he already had his system plugged in to a TT-7 he had on loan.

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Once plugged in, we heard a clear improvement the new TT-7 in terms of transient speed and clarity.

This was completely coincidental, but last week I got to try out two different Sound Application TT-7's of different vintages in my system, including Kman's. For those who may not recall, the Sound Application TT-7 is a very pricey power conditioner made by Jim Weil. I already had used Jim's 6 AWG cabling for my dedicated circuit, but I had never tried his power conditioners. I have been curious about them, so this was great that I could audition them.

My first comparison was versus my existing PS Audio P5 regenerator, and I really did not know what to expect. The thing about power conditioners is that they are a tide that lifts all boats. In my case, after switching to the TT-7, I heard clear improvements in 4 main areas:

Dynamics got startlingly better
Bass response was deeper and more visceral. The effect of 1 and 2 was an urge to actually listen at a lower volume to achieve the same impact.
Tonal richness
Clarity/transparency.

As Kman mentioned, we heard an additional uptick when going from the older to the newer unit, which confirms that Jim continues to improve these units. I would dearly love to get one of these in my system, but at $20k, they are way above my pay grade. Those fortunate enough to own these are very lucky The worst part was reverting back to the P5 from the TT-7. Some day, maybe.

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We then connected the Chord DAVE I had brought to HMS and with the first track we listened to, both of us agreed that the difference was profound compared to TT2. There was a noticeable improvement in depth and air. The difference was more profound than what I had expected (I had thought the Hugo M-Scalar may level the field), I am still surprised that the 10 elements pulse array of TT2 vs 20 elements of DAVE made such an improvement.

Word of advice to owners of HMS and TT2: don't make the mistake of auditioning a DAVE with the HMS. Here again, I was actually unprepared for the magnitude of the improvement. I was expecting something fairly subtle, but what I heard was gobsmacking.

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Rajiv agreed and while trying to figure out what was wrong, he found that his JCAT Net card was not being powered by Farad 3. It was inadvertent, but we got to validate the advantage of powering the Net card using an external LPS.

Minor correction - it was an SR4 @ 5V, but yeah it's a very noticeable improvement. With the SR4 inadvertently unplugged, the card was getting bus power from the mobo, which was fed from my HDPlex 800W Linear ATX supply. No slouch, but the SR-4 directly powering the JCAT card is a big jump.

1 hour ago, KMan said:

I never had the opportunity to hear first-hand what difference the master clock made to audio chain. Switching Ref 10 Master clock on and off made an audible difference, a bit more air a little smoother but the change was less than what I expected and the scale of change was less than what I heard when switching between Roon-bridge and StylusEP.

My original intent was to demo USB direct from my server to the HMS compared to the case with the tX-USBultra in the path, referenced clocked by the Ref-10, to show the full benefit of clocking on USB. Since we were running out of time, I instead demoed "just" the effect of the Ref-10. In my current chain, the Ref-10 drives the switch and the tX-U. We compared no reference clock (I turned off both outputs on the Ref 10) to reference clocking on. This is what KMan heard.

I will say the effect of low phase noise clocks in my system has waxed and waned over time. I am now convinced that PSU quality and low phase-noise clocks work in similar domains, and so as you drive up PSU quality, clock improvements decrease in magnitude. Note - the improvements are still there!

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Once back to my system, I missed some of the magic I heard at @austinpop’s. I downloaded and burnt a trial version of Euphony OS on a USB stick. With some back and forth help from Rajiv and Željko I got StylusEP running on Ramroot on my wireless NUC. I am happy to report, I hear a similar bump in SQ when I switched from Roon-bridge to StylusEP.

I wish to thank @austinpop for having me and look forward to similar meetings in the future.

Glad you're liking Euphony OS and thanks again for coming.

limniscate · October 4, 2019

I wish I could have been there for the tests!

johndoe21ro · October 4, 2019

I did not think that the LPS-1.2 would run the TXUSBUltra. I will try to start with that when mine arrives from Audiosensibility. I am torn by power supply selection and I am not going to rush.

I'm running my tX-USBultra with UpTone LPS1.2 and I'm very pleased with the results!

Bricki · October 4, 2019

My braided tinned copper sleeve arrived earlier than expected and I got a chance to put a 3rd layer on my curious USB cable.

For the first 2 layers I used the 9.5mm sleeve... That was probably over a year ago...for this 3rd layer I used 12.7mm. I tried to replicate the TANF configuration that @TheAttorney came up with in the lush^2 thread...as far as I can tell this basically involves the 3rd layer being connected to the underlying jssg360 layers at only one end, that end being the output end for the direction of the music.

This 3rd layer has given me even blacker backgrounds with more clarity and detail and timbre... There is more depth and individual images are less convoluted and more separated. Everything once again sounds richer and more natural... vocals sound even more dimensional and have more subtle gradations. Small background sounds in recordings are more easily discernable and every individual image is more focused and more accurately placed in the sound stage in terms of depth and width.

Next step is to add a 3rd layer on my Supra cat8 Ethernet cable between my NUC endpoint and server. I will use this same TANF configuration and report back again.

ray-dude · October 4, 2019

It would be very interesting to see if JSSG360^4 config (a 4th layer) gives even more benefit. With my Lush^2's, I preferred the full JSSG360^3 config to the TANF config (by a smidge), but I was very impressed with both configs.

elan120 · October 4, 2019

33 minutes ago, Bricki said:

My braided tinned copper sleeve arrived earlier than expected and I got a chance to put a 3rd layer on my curious USB cable.

For the first 2 layers I used the 9.5mm sleeve... That was probably over a year ago...for this 3rd layer I used 12.7mm. I tried to replicate the TANF configuration that @TheAttorney came up with in the lush^2 thread...as far as I can tell this basically involves the 3rd layer being connected to the underlying jssg360 layers at only one end, that end being the output end for the direction of the music.

This 3rd layer has given me even blacker backgrounds with more clarity and detail and timbre... There is more depth and individual images are less convoluted and more separated. Everything once again sounds richer and more natural... vocals sound even more dimensional and have more subtle gradations. Small background sounds in recordings are more easily discernable and every individual image is more focused and more accurately placed in the sound stage in terms of depth and width.

Next step is to add a 3rd layer on my Supra cat8 Ethernet cable between my NUC endpoint and server. I will use this same TANF configuration and report back again.

Very good to know JSSG360^3 is working out on your USB cable as well.

I also changed out my Gotham output cable to the same 16AWG solid silver wire in JSSG360^3 configuration two days ago on my MPAudio power supply that is powering my tX-USBUltra, and it is showing the same improvement as my other JSSG360^3 silver DC cables, so I am quite happy with the result.

Below is a picture showing the JSSG360^3 silver output DC cable (on the left).

Johnseye · October 4, 2019

4 minutes ago, elan120 said:

Very good to know JSSG360^3 is working out on your USB cable as well.

I also changed out my Gotham output cable to the same 16AWG solid silver wire in JSSG360^3 configuration two days ago on my MPAudio power supply that is powering my tX-USBUltra, and it is showing the same improvement as my other JSSG360^3 silver DC cables, so I am quite happy with the result.

Below is a picture showing the JSSG360^3 silver output DC cable (on the left).

Elan did you modify the capacitor in that PSU yourself or was it stock?

elan120 · October 4, 2019

12 minutes ago, Johnseye said:

Elan did you modify the capacitor in that PSU yourself or was it stock?

John, if you were asking the capacitors on the bottom of the picture, then no, they are stock, but if you refer to the capacitor at the output side of DC cable, then sort of, I added this capacitor.

Bricki · October 5, 2019

1 hour ago, ray-dude said:

It would be very interesting to see if JSSG360^4 config (a 4th layer) gives even more benefit. With my Lush^2's, I preferred the full JSSG360^3 config to the TANF config (by a smidge), but I was very impressed with both configs.

Interesting... I will probably have enough braid left over to try a 4th on my USB cable at least... I have just finished my Ethernet cable and the improvement seems even greater than the USB cable 🧐... I certainly wasn't expecting that

Bricki · October 5, 2019

I have now completed a 3rd layer on my Supra cat8 Ethernet cable used on the bridged connection from my server to NUC endpoint.

I did the same TANF configuration and connected just one end to the underlying jssg 360 layers.

The end with the longer section of heat shrink denotes the end that connects to the jssg 360 shielding.

After listening for a couple of hours this seems to have even more impact than the USB cable... maybe it's the fact that this cable has to pass over my furutech TCS31 ac cable that goes to my sps500 or maybe it's the fact that it's 1meter long as opposed to the USB cable that is only 280mm... Whatever the reason I think it has more impact in my system.

The impact is very similar to the USB cable. The background is blacker again and the music even richer... The depth has increased further still as well as focus. Vocals again seem to be more dimensional and everything pops more.

The music has a lot more emotion and feeling to it. Small nuances are more evident and bring more character... just listened to son of neck bone by the beastie boys and the impact of the drums and the timbre of the cow bell is just making it so real 😁👍... I wonder what I'll sheild next 🙄

Bricki · October 5, 2019

Experiments with a 4th layer

As per @ray-dude suggestion I have been experimenting with a 4th layer.

I have tried a 4th layer that formed a new jssg360 but connected to the first at one end.... This sounded too quiet and lost some of the magic after hours of listening I decided to try the fourth layer as a double TANF... This was better but there was something about it that just wasn't right... It felt like it was a bit muffled and it was having some kind of negative impact so today I have rejigged it to be 2 individual jssg360s, one underlying jssg360 unconnected to the top jssg360 and right away I knew this was a keeper all the magic of jssg360 is back and I hardly had to listen much to know that I don't want to experiment with any other configurations.

This one is a keeper and I will want to change my other cables to have this configuration... I think we should call it jssg360x2👍😉

Bricki · October 6, 2019

I have only been able to listen for a short while and I have to go away for a week now but I can say that this configuration of 2 independent jssg360 over the top of each other is very very good. I have that feeling that I got when I did the original jssg360... That deathly quiet background and the music just has more space to breath and the dynamics increase and the individual sounds get further apart... This is significantly better than just one jssg360. I won't be able to listen again for a week but when I get back I will definitely be doing more cables with this configuration 👍😁...

ray-dude · October 6, 2019

That’s awesome, thank you for the report! Now to figure out an easy way to add a forth layer to the Lush^2

seeteeyou · October 6, 2019

On 10/4/2019 at 1:02 PM, austinpop said:

Word of advice to owners of HMS and TT2: don't make the mistake of auditioning a DAVE with the HMS. Here again, I was actually unprepared for the magnitude of the improvement. I was expecting something fairly subtle, but what I heard was gobsmacking.

Rob already stated that DAVE 2 wouldn't appear in the foreseeable future since he's still working on his DX amp(s) as well as DAVINA, does it make sense to bump the Pulse Array design from 10 to 20 elements first and then get a pair of nice BNC cables later?

BTW, it's interesting to read something from an owner of $105,000 / pair amps + £130,000 / pair speakers since the source turned out to be Dell XPS 13

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/hugo-m-scaler-by-chord-electronics-the-official-thread.885042/page-567#post-15228654

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To hear the Dave and Blu2 at their best, power and RFI have to be taken into account. Separating the Dave and Blu2 physically, and especially their mains supplies has been a huge improvement. The Opto-DX has allowed this. The Opto-DX has also eliminated the need for a dedicated audiophile streamer.

Though adding OPTO•DX would also require an extra pair of BNC cables while Dan's getting to ready launch RF•STOP by the end of this month

https://audiowise-canada.myshopify.com/products/rf-block

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1552/8145/files/WhitePaper_RF-STOP.pdf

Chopin75 · October 6, 2019

On 10/4/2019 at 7:39 PM, elan120 said:

Very good to know JSSG360^3 is working out on your USB cable as well.

I also changed out my Gotham output cable to the same 16AWG solid silver wire in JSSG360^3 configuration two days ago on my MPAudio power supply that is powering my tX-USBUltra, and it is showing the same improvement as my other JSSG360^3 silver DC cables, so I am quite happy with the result.

Below is a picture showing the JSSG360^3 silver output DC cable (on the left).

Where do u get your silver wire ? Is it OCC ? Sorry to-ask again if u had mentioned already. Is it star quad or twisted or single wire ?

seeteeyou · October 6, 2019

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30376-a-novel-way-to-massively-improve-the-sq-of-computer-audio-streaming/page/599/?tab=comments#comment-991944

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The base of this cable is a double shielded Neotech 16AWG solid core silver cable purchased from Audio Sensibility in a twisted pair configuration.

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30376-a-novel-way-to-massively-improve-the-sq-of-computer-audio-streaming/page/599/?tab=comments#comment-992025

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Cable was purchased in bulk without termination, and the existing shields were used to setup JSSG360 configurations.

12AWG is here since gauge is everything

https://audiosensibility.com/blog/accessories/parts/wire-and-cable/#!/Neotech-12AWG-OCC-Silver-Teflon-Insulated-Solid-Core-per-foot/p/132810030/

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30376-a-novel-way-to-massively-improve-the-sq-of-computer-audio-streaming/page/279/?tab=comments#comment-792104

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I have been building some DC cables for my personal use and I have tried many many conductors with various gauges including copper, silver, and silver plated copper, stranded and solid core.

I found that the most important aspect to SQ is gauge, go for the largest gauge you can regardless whether it is solid core or stranded. As for copper vs. silver you really need to try in your system to find the tonality that matches best with your system.

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30634-the-true-experimental-tweak-thread/page/150/?tab=comments#comment-766090

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I found that the LT3045 adds a bit of clarity when used with LPS-1 to power my switch. The improvement is subtle, in contrast going to a silver thicker gauge on the DC wire is by far more effective.

Though the thickness of 12AWG wires would end up with something like this

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/31554-diy-dc-power-cables/page/47/?tab=comments#comment-972490

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You can use heat shrink and leave the barrels off. I did that with some very short pieces of solid 12g Neotech hook up wire, separated by air. Don't look like much but sound great. Don't forget to use a small piece of shrink over the live solder joint and any exposed live wire so if any bending it won't short the neutral. Then a big piece that snugs the screw part of the plug with the cable.

Question for @Nenon who's a fan of Mundorf, what if we kinda "replace" those barrels of DC connectors by wrapping some Mundorf foils around each plug?

https://www.hificollective.co.uk/wire/mundorf-silver-gold-foil.html

Metnoc · October 6, 2019

On 10/5/2019 at 4:15 AM, Bricki said:

I have now completed a 3rd layer on my Supra cat8 Ethernet cable used on the bridged connection from my server to NUC endpoint.

I did the same TANF configuration and connected just one end to the underlying jssg 360 layers.

The end with the longer section of heat shrink denotes the end that connects to the jssg 360 shielding.

After listening for a couple of hours this seems to have even more impact than the USB cable... maybe it's the fact that this cable has to pass over my furutech TCS31 ac cable that goes to my sps500 or maybe it's the fact that it's 1meter long as opposed to the USB cable that is only 280mm... Whatever the reason I think it has more impact in my system.

The impact is very similar to the USB cable. The background is blacker again and the music even richer... The depth has increased further still as well as focus. Vocals again seem to be more dimensional and everything pops more.

The music has a lot more emotion and feeling to it. Small nuances are more evident and bring more character... just listened to son of neck bone by the beastie boys and the impact of the drums and the timbre of the cow bell is just making it so real 😁👍... I wonder what I'll sheild next 🙄

Interesting, is there a guide on how to do this?

Bricki · October 6, 2019

5 hours ago, Metnoc said:

Interesting, is there a guide on how to do this?

@austinpop wrote a good guide a while ago

I am simply adding a 3rd and 4th layer disconnected from the first 2 to form a 2nd jssg360 over the top

Nenon · October 6, 2019

6 hours ago, seeteeyou said:

12AWG is here since gauge is everything

I would not necessarily agree with that. The thicker wire acts like a big anthena. I personally would not use anything thicker than 15-16AWG in my LPS.

6 hours ago, seeteeyou said:

Question for @Nenon who's a fan of Mundorf, what if we kinda "replace" those barrels of DC connectors by wrapping some Mundorf foils around each plug?

https://www.hificollective.co.uk/wire/mundorf-silver-gold-foil.html

I am not necessarily a fan of Mundorf. I like some of their power capacitors (i.e. MLytic and MTubeCap) in certain applications, and I like their silver/gold SGW115 wire for my digital source LPS with JSSG360. Not a big fan of their film caps and other products. I use different wire for everything else.

Foils are interesting. I did consider trying a foil in my LPS at some point, but it's more difficult to work with, especially when you have to do a 20-PIN ATX connector. I did not think it was practical at all. My only experience with silver foil cables was a Verastarr Grand Illusion Signature power cord that I still have. They do something interesting, but it was not impressive enough to convince me foils was the way to go.

But after re-reading your question again, I am not sure what you actually have in mind. Do you just want to make your own custom DC plug? Or you want to replace the wire? Either way, it's not something I have tried and would not be able to give any recommendations.

It's hard to beat short wire and good connectors (Jaeger in my case). I don't have a recent pic with my 8-wire EPS connector (only 2 wires shown), JSSG360 shielding, and cotton sleeve, but you would get the idea from this pic taken during my experiments with different wires.

ASRMichael · October 7, 2019

Hi, I am looking for advice/recommendations/thoughts with regards to new build I am planning. After the TLS issues I want to make sure I get this right this time..... Here are my initial thoughts...

One box server
Existing HDplex H5 case or other recommendations?, higher TDP?
Mother board - Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Extreme MB, 16 Phases IR digital VRM (My understanding is lower noise output)
CPU - Intel i9900k (run at 3.6gz base clock) (95 TDP)
Existing JCAT Ethernet Card
Existing data WD SSD drive
RAM - 8GB - Apacer 2666 (What model? no idea yet?)
OXCO Clocks - Modified Motherboard clocks for USB+Chipset by Fidelityaudio UK
LPS - Custom Sean Jacobs 7 Rails in total for everything+Ghent PSU cables
I'll be running Audiolinux or Euphony
I'll be using Roon and HQplayer
USB output to Innuos Phoenix USB reclocker
I might add GPU at later date to help HQplayer CUDA offload (if required)

The above if more of less an Innuos statement, but would be more powerful, and 4k cheaper.

Thanks in advance

Gavin1977 · October 7, 2019

57 minutes ago, ASRMichael said:

Hi, I am looking for advice/recommendations/thoughts with regards to new build I am planning. After the TLS issues I want to make sure I get this right this time..... Here are my initial thoughts...

One box server

Existing HDplex H5 case or other recommendations?, higher TDP?

Mother board - Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Extreme MB, 16 Phases IR digital VRM (My understanding is lower noise output)

CPU - Intel i9900k (run at 3.6gz base clock) (95 TDP)

Existing JCAT Ethernet Card

Existing data WD SSD drive

RAM - 8GB - Apacer 2666 (What model? no idea yet?)

OXCO Clocks - Modified Motherboard clocks for USB+Chipset by Fidelityaudio UK

LPS - Custom Sean Jacobs 7 Rails in total for everything+Ghent PSU cables

I'll be running Audiolinux or Euphony

I'll be using Roon and HQplayer

USB output to Innuos Phoenix USB reclocker

I might add GPU at later date to help HQplayer CUDA offload (if required)

The above if more of less an Innuos statement, but would be more powerful, and 4k cheaper.

Thanks in advance

Innuos Statement already includes the USB reclocker so that would be a saving if you purchased the Statement (see earlier video posted on this thread). If you're spending this much then I would definately read the Taiko Audio thread: https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/taiko-audio-sgm-extreme-the-crème-de-la-crème.27433/

SGM Extreme uses a server grade motherboard with two CPU's - server and renderer (WS C621E Sage with 2X Silver 4114). Also PCIe SSD Hard Drive is largely preferrable to SATA as PCIe bus is directly connected via a dedicated lane to the CPU - no other bottlenecks or services. 16Phase VRM might not matter that much if you have a very good power supply.

If I had the money then that's what I'd do. Or If I has less then this is a bit of a bargain: https://www.mojo-audio.com/used-high-performance-music-server/

A novel way to massively improve the SQ of computer audio streaming

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