Forum Rules Suggestion

[lmitche]

5 hours ago, Paul R said:

In any case, these discussion are something I do value, especially where there is nobody shouting and making an unbearable nuisance of themselves.

Really??

 

This started as a well-intentioned thread that has now been twisted into a discussion leading to the rationalization and justification of the disgusting and uncivilized behavior of the "objectivist" tribe. There is no value here.

[Shadders]

1 minute ago, lmitche said:

Really??

 

This started as a well-intentioned thread that has now been twisted into a discussion leading to the rationalization and justification of the disgusting and uncivilized behavior of the "objectivist" tribe. There is no value here.

Yeah, but, but,..... the objectivist tribe do have science on their side, where as the subjectivist tribe only have expectation bias.

 

So, objectivists win. 😋

[lmitche]

1 minute ago, Shadders said:

Yeah, but, but,..... the objectivist tribe do have science on their side, where as the subjectivist tribe only have expectation bias.

 

So, objectivists win. 😋

It's not about winning or losing, or science, it's about being able to conduct civilized discourse on a topic.

[Shadders]

5 minutes ago, lmitche said:

It's not about winning or losing, or science, it's about being able to conduct civilized discourse on a topic.

Hi,

I will tell you what, if we ever should meet up, i will take you shopping and buy you a sense of humour.

Regards,

Shadders.

[PeterSt]

2 minutes ago, Shadders said:

buy you a sense of humour.

 

Would that be prior or post BREXIT ?

[Sonicularity]

6 hours ago, Paul R said:

 Funniest damn thing - the internet must be getting really smart because I didn't google CICOIL (I already know who they were.) 

 

But I just hit the MacWorld home page and... 

 

 

Just goes to show how invasive that user tracking can be with ad tools.  Don't worry; I'm confident that while they use a unique ID, each user remains anonymous.  Oh, wait, that might be a position you are supposed to champion.  Didn't mean to step on your toes. 😜  

[89reksal]

14 hours ago, wgscott said:

The preponderance of these sorts of troll-threads that try to tell Chris how to run his website seem overwhelmingly from one side.

Gee, I wonder why that is?

[christopher3393]

14 hours ago, wgscott said:

 

The preponderance of these sorts of troll-threads that try to tell Chris how to run his website seem overwhelmingly from one side.

 

I thought the OP was floating a trial balloon based on a policy from another audiophile forum. That's a far cry from trolling and trying to tell Chris how to run his forum, isn't it?

[kumakuma]

7 hours ago, Paul R said:

 Funniest damn thing - the internet must be getting really smart because I didn't google CICOIL (I already know who they were.) 

 

But I just hit the MacWorld home page and... 

 

 

I'm guessing that you clicked on the link in STC's post which allowed CICOIL to pixel you for remarketing through the Google Display Network.

[Paul R]

2 hours ago, lmitche said:

Really??

 

This started as a well-intentioned thread that has now been twisted into a discussion leading to the rationalization and justification of the disgusting and uncivilized behavior of the "objectivist" tribe. There is no value here.

 

Well, it is important that the rules not be so tight that there is no latitude for playfulness, joking around, divergent discussions, and other meaningless fun that makes the online experience rich and meaningful. Sure, there should be sections as tightly regulated as a Reed-Elsevier journal, but not all, nor even most. And there are people and topics that can be best described as a cancer. 

 

I find threads like the MQA is Vapor thread to be a bit of a problem. Not because of the length, or the divergence, or even the passion. I find it a problem because the OP apparently is using it to benefit his own reputation by attacking a corporate entity, no matter how richly deserved. The OP is not one of the people who did the research or presented the facts that are so valuable in the thread.  This is apparently because the OP is not allowed to pull such shenanigans on the more traditional and controlled systems that compete with here.

 

Moreover, the thread developed a nasty tempered group of cronies / bully boys whose sole intent is simply to bully people into toeing their line. Not convince people, just plain bullying like a bunch of young teenagers. One must be part of the “in crowd”  to avoid their stupidly applied persuasions. It is both funny to watch, and yet disgusting too. Like a political campaign rally these days. I suppose it is inevitable that people think if Trump can do it and get away with it, then they can too. Rude surprise coming when it backfires on them. 

 

My take is that the above behavior is useless, and quickly destroying the reputation of and attraction of the entire forum system, and that is where the rules need to be formulated and applied. 

 

Note, I do not mean to imply rambunctious younger people or crusty older people or any particular group needs to be censored. Just that the forums as a whole are vulnerable to ill meaning people who will wreck everything built here, without a moment’s hesitation, if they perceive some benefit to themselves. 

 

[Paul R]

7 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

 

I'm guessing that you clicked on the link in STC's post which allowed CICOIL to pixel you for remarketing through the Google Display Network.

 

Seems to be exactly what happened. (*sigh*)

[mansr]

Wow, I had no idea horses that high existed.

[kumakuma]

15 minutes ago, Paul R said:

 

Well, it is important that the rules not be so tight that there is no latitude for playfulness, joking around, divergent discussions, and other meaningless fun that makes the online experience rich and meaningful. Sure, there should be sections as tightly regulated as a Reed-Elsevier journal, but not all, nor even most. And there are people and topics that can be best described as a cancer. 

 

I find threads like the MQA is Vapor thread to be a bit of a problem. Not because of the length, or the divergence, or even the passion. I find it a problem because the OP apparently is using it to benefit his own reputation by attacking a corporate entity, no matter how richly deserved. The OP is not one of the people who did the research or presented the facts that are so valuable in the thread.  This is apparently because the OP is not allowed to pull such shenanigans on the more traditional and controlled systems that compete with here.

 

Moreover, the thread developed a nasty tempered group of cronies / bully boys whose sole intent is simply to bully people into toeing their line. Not convince people, just plain bullying like a bunch of young teenagers. One must be part of the “in crowd”  to avoid their stupidly applied persuasions. It is both funny to watch, and yet disgusting too. Like a political campaign rally these days. I suppose it is inevitable that people think if Trump can do it and get away with it, then they can too. Rude surprise coming when it backfires on them. 

 

My take is that the above behavior is useless, and quickly destroying the reputation of and attraction of the entire forum system, and that is where the rules need to be formulated and applied. 

 

Note, I do not mean to imply rambunctious younger people or crusty older people or any particular group needs to be censored. Just that the forums as a whole are vulnerable to ill meaning people who will wreck everything built here, without a moment’s hesitation, if they perceive some benefit to themselves. 

 

 

This gets my vote for Best Written Rant of 2019.

 

 

[Shadders]

30 minutes ago, Paul R said:

 

Well, it is important that the rules not be so tight that there is no latitude for playfulness, joking around, divergent discussions, and other meaningless fun that makes the online experience rich and meaningful. Sure, there should be sections as tightly regulated as a Reed-Elsevier journal, but not all, nor even most. And there are people and topics that can be best described as a cancer. 

 

I find threads like the MQA is Vapor thread to be a bit of a problem. Not because of the length, or the divergence, or even the passion. I find it a problem because the OP apparently is using it to benefit his own reputation by attacking a corporate entity, no matter how richly deserved. The OP is not one of the people who did the research or presented the facts that are so valuable in the thread.  This is apparently because the OP is not allowed to pull such shenanigans on the more traditional and controlled systems that compete with here.

 

Moreover, the thread developed a nasty tempered group of cronies / bully boys whose sole intent is simply to bully people into toeing their line. Not convince people, just plain bullying like a bunch of young teenagers. One must be part of the “in crowd”  to avoid their stupidly applied persuasions. It is both funny to watch, and yet disgusting too. Like a political campaign rally these days. I suppose it is inevitable that people think if Trump can do it and get away with it, then they can too. Rude surprise coming when it backfires on them. 

 

My take is that the above behavior is useless, and quickly destroying the reputation of and attraction of the entire forum system, and that is where the rules need to be formulated and applied. 

 

Note, I do not mean to imply rambunctious younger people or crusty older people or any particular group needs to be censored. Just that the forums as a whole are vulnerable to ill meaning people who will wreck everything built here, without a moment’s hesitation, if they perceive some benefit to themselves. 

 

Short Version :

 

You are all a bunch of c*nts.

[Paul R]

1 hour ago, mansr said:

Wow, I had no idea horses that high existed.

 

Better high on the horse than acting like the rather smelly other end however. 

[Paul R]

I would say a comment like this definitely came from the south end of a north bound mule, but that would probably be insulting to people who like to throw insults, but cannot take them. 

 

[lucretius]

3 hours ago, lmitche said:

This started as a well-intentioned thread that has now been twisted into a discussion leading to the rationalization and justification of the disgusting and uncivilized behavior of the "objectivist" tribe. There is no value here.

 

Ouch!

[wgscott]

3 hours ago, lmitche said:

This started as a well-intentioned thread 

 

This is why Tom Lehrer had to give up parody.

[AudioDoctor]

18 hours ago, fas42 said:

I still it remarkable that people are so compartmentalised in their thinking - everything inside a box will change the sound; everything outside one can't ...

 

If the copper makes a difference outside the box, then why not inside? Do we have 2,000USD traces of copper on PCBs?

 

edit: I shouldn't be giving them any ideas...

[kumakuma]

18 minutes ago, Paul R said:

I would say a comment like this definitely came from the south end of a north bound mule, but that would probably be insulting to people who like to throw insults, but cannot take them. 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

 

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Psychological projection is a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.

 

[Tintinabulum]

2 hours ago, Paul R said:

Moreover, the thread developed a nasty tempered group of cronies / bully boys whose sole intent is simply to bully people into toeing their line. Not convince people, just plain bullying like a bunch of young teenagers. One must be part of the “in crowd”  to avoid their stupidly applied persuasions. It is both funny to watch, and yet disgusting too. Like a political campaign rally these days. I suppose it is inevitable that people think if Trump can do it and get away with it, then they can too. Rude surprise coming when it backfires on them. 

What he said.

[christopher3393]

Some "objectivists" see the words "Cable" or "Forum Rules" and read "Thermopylae!" and start forming a phalanx. 

[89reksal]

4 hours ago, lmitche said:

This started as a well-intentioned thread that has now been twisted into a discussion leading to the rationalization and justification of the disgusting and uncivilized behavior of the "objectivist" tribe. There is no value here.

 

“In the United States Audiophile Style.com today, we have more than our share of the nattering nabobs of negativism. They have formed their own 4-H Club — the ‘hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history.'"

[kumakuma]

12 minutes ago, lasker98 said:

 

“In the United States Audiophile Style.com today, we have more than our share of the nattering nabobs of negativism. They have formed their own 4-H Club — the ‘hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history.'"

 

You forgot the attribution:

 

 

[89reksal]

1 minute ago, kumakuma said:

You forgot the attribution:

No, I didn't.