MQA is Vaporware

[Confused]

4 minutes ago, Shadders said:

Yes, this was reported on the BBC News at 13:00 today...... 😀

As long as this knocked Brexit off the top slot, I'm happy.....

[fung0]

32 minutes ago, Confused said:

Even as a self-confessed audiophile myself, I use an iPod in my car, which is loaded with ALAC rather than compressed 320 kbs files or similar, but in no way am I bothered about having or needing 24/96 for my car audio.  I just don't get this one.

 

Indeed. What sort of car is quiet enough for even most golden ears to perceive the difference between Redbook and 24/96? The push for MQA in cars is strong evidence (as if more was needed) that MQA is mainly about giving the industry a single protected format, rather than giving the consumer any meaningful improvement in audio quality.

[Lee Scoggins]

1 hour ago, fung0 said:

 

Indeed. What sort of car is quiet enough for even most golden ears to perceive the difference between Redbook and 24/96? The push for MQA in cars is strong evidence (as if more was needed) that MQA is mainly about giving the industry a single protected format, rather than giving the consumer any meaningful improvement in audio quality.

 

The Lexus cabins are quiet enough to hear the hirez differences on the Mark Levinson system.

[mansr]

A car quiet enough to hear below the resolution of 16-bit audio would be dangerous to drive since you wouldn't hear anything whatsoever of your surroundings.

[rickca]

20 minutes ago, mansr said:

A car quiet enough to hear below the resolution of 16-bit audio would be dangerous to drive since you wouldn't hear anything whatsoever of your surroundings.

Ever been in a Rolls Royce?  I couldn't even tell whether the engine was running when I started it.  

[Shadders]

5 minutes ago, rickca said:

Ever been in a Rolls Royce?  I couldn't even tell whether the engine was running when I started it.  

I had a Rolls Kinardley.

 

It rolls down hills, but can hardly get up them.....

 

Ta, boom, tsssshhhhh

[Samuel T Cogley]

48 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said:

 

The Lexus cabins are quiet enough to hear the hirez differences on the Mark Levinson system.

 

We must be experiencing different Lexus interiors.  A friend has a 2019 LS and the "Mark Levinson" sound system is meh.  No way you're able to hear even 16 bits of dynamic range on the freeway.  In your garage with the engine off, maybe.

[kumakuma]

9 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

 

We must be experiencing different Lexus interiors.  A friend has a 2019 LS and the "Mark Levinson" sound system is meh.  No way you're able to hear even 16 bits of dynamic range on the freeway.  In your garage with the engine off, maybe.

 

Who to believe??

 

You or Lee "The Press Release Regurgitator" Scoggins? 

[mansr]

24 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

We must be experiencing different Lexus interiors.

Oh, it's the same Lexus. It's just that "his" Lexus was inside an anechoic chamber.

[Thuaveta]

1 hour ago, Lee Scoggins said:

 

The Lexus cabins are quiet enough to hear the hirez differences on the Mark Levinson system.

 

This explains a lot of your other magical claims...

 

27 minutes ago, mansr said:

Oh, it's the same Lexus. It's just that "his" Lexus was inside an anechoic chamber.

 

Maybe he's just gone full cult of BS, and is now listening to his MQA where Meridian sells most.

[mav52]

42 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

 

Who to believe??

 

You or Lee "The Press Release Regurgitator" Scoggins? 

I know the 2016 LS-460 (V8) we own is a lot quieter in the cabin than the new 2019 LS model (V6 Twin Turbo) . But to be able to hear the hirez difference , B.S. unless you are using closed back headphones and thats not going to happen in my state.  There is so much wind and noise in the cabin in the new LS ( drove multiple cars)are staying with the year we have.  My wife drives a 2018 ES 300h and not going to happen, and yes both cars have the Mark Levinson system.

[Shadders]

Hi,

I think everyone in their heart, knows that high resolution is not all it is cracked up to be. If it was so good, then it would be exceedingly popular. It isn't.

 

So, comparing normal resolution with high resolution in a car is like trying to ask someone did they hear them fart in the hurricane. No, no one can hear that.

 

All MQA is, is a scam for delivering DRM, using high resolution as the hook to reel in gullible audiophiles. The record labels are backing it, because they are intensely greedy.

 

Regards,

Shadders.

[Confused]

Maybe Lee should try driving a Lexus whilst blind testing MQA versus Redbook?

[KeenObserver]

Now that everyone, even MQA,  has agreed that MQA is lossy, we should understand that a lossy system is, of itself, DRM.  Creating a lossy system is the first step in creating a DRM system, irregardless of whether further DRM processes built into the system have been implemented already.  Arguing that DRM has not been implemented YET is a specious argument.

Owners of intellectual property have a right to protect their property.  But MQA and the majors should not piss on the music consumer and tell them it's raining.

MQA offers studios a DRM system that, if implemented, will create substantial wealth for MQA and will be paid for by the music consumer.  How could the studios not want to join with MQA in fleecing the consumer.

This whole MQA fiasco has the smell of the Sony rootkit fiasco.

The music consumer needs to protect themselves and shun any aspect of MQA!

[Shadders]

Hi,

Fleecing is the right phrase :

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brothers-Arms-Hi-Res-MQA-UHQCD/dp/B07BZC8LCV/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=mqa&qid=1552257336&rnid=1642204031&s=music&sr=1-8

 

The above is a an MQA CD of Dire Straits, Brothers in Arms - imported from Japan - and only £50.86.

 

You could purchase the normal CD for £6.61

 

Regards,

Shadders.

[Richard Dale]

24 minutes ago, Shadders said:

Hi,

Fleecing is the right phrase :

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brothers-Arms-Hi-Res-MQA-UHQCD/dp/B07BZC8LCV/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=mqa&qid=1552257336&rnid=1642204031&s=music&sr=1-8

 

The above is a an MQA CD of Dire Straits, Brothers in Arms - imported from Japan - and only £50.86.

 

You could purchase the normal CD for £6.61

 

Regards,

Shadders.

"...available in 352.8kHz/24bit high resolution (perfect for MQA-enabled audio players)" - that is simply misleading and incorrect. A con. You don't get that resolution from a CD or a recording made at 16/48 originally. 

[Lee Scoggins]

The Tidal app for iOS now plays Tidal Masters following an app update today.  Listening now to it on the Audioquest Dragonfly Red and some Noble Katanas.

[rickca]

2 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said:

The Tidal app for iOS now plays Tidal Masters following an app update today.

Oh!  That didn't take long! 🙄

[KeenObserver]

Lee's turn again.

[new_media]

39 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said:

The Tidal app for iOS now plays Tidal Masters following an app update today.  Listening now to it on the Audioquest Dragonfly Red and some Noble Katanas.

 

I see you started a thread to make the exact same post on the Steve Hoffman forum.

 

Are you sure you’re not a paid social media consultant?

[kumakuma]

1 hour ago, Lee Scoggins said:

The Tidal app for iOS now plays Tidal Masters following an app update today.  Listening now to it on the Audioquest Dragonfly Red and some Noble Katanas.

 

How can music encoded with a lossy algorithm be called a "Master"?

[MikeyFresh]

35 minutes ago, new_media said:

Are you sure you’re not a paid social media consultant?

 

Interesting thought, Accenture has had longstanding working relationships with Sony, Warner, and Universal.

[The Computer Audiophile]

5 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

 

How can music encoded with a lossy algorithm be called a "Master"?

Kind of funny. Even the labels have rejected using MQA as a master because it isn’t lossless. Yet, MQA and Tidal push “Tidal Masters” hard. I guess we shouldn’t be surprised. 

[Paul R]

29 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Kind of funny. Even the labels have rejected using MQA as a master because it isn’t lossless. Yet, MQA and Tidal push “Tidal Masters” hard. I guess we shouldn’t be surprised. 

 

That is very ironic - and insightful as well...

 

[firedog]

6 hours ago, kumakuma said:

 

How can music encoded with a lossy algorithm be called a "Master"?

Because marketing people will say anything. Truth or accuracy have nothing to do with it. Newspeak.