JoeWhip Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Like a true flat earther, he will dig in and defend MQA, regardless of the facts. I know some flat earthers who would still deny the Earth is a sphere, even if they were taken into orbit. Veth strikes me as one of those types. Link to comment
Iving Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 45 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: The eternal optimist. Next time I have a bad day, I should call Peter V. He could spin any tragedy into a can't lose, opportunity not to be missed. I have to give him credit. 24 minutes ago, firedog said: Classic cognitive dissonance. He's spent years vociferously defending it, no matter what. What will he say when it actually fails and goes away? More of same here: Post in thread 'Whither MQA' https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/whither-mqa.36636/post-868051 DuckToller 1 Link to comment
Popular Post FredericV Posted April 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2023 One of the better articles: https://www.ecoustics.com/news/mqa-bankruptcy/ since it answers why the main backer would be seeking an exit, and why they renamed MQair into SCL6: Quote There have been a series of events in recent months that likely explain why MQA filed when it did. First, MQA’s attempt to get the MQAir codec into the Bluetooth standard failed when the Bluetooth SIG did not add it to the latest release. MQA had certainly been hoping for that as it would have given them a leg up on other competing codecs as being in the standard would ensure broader compatibility than any of the current proprietary offerings (aptX, LDAC, LHDC, etc.). The rest is history Kyhl, Jeff_N and MikeyFresh 3 Designer of the 432 EVO music server and Linux specialist Discoverer of the independent open source sox based mqa playback method with optional one cycle postringing. Link to comment
bogi Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, FredericV said: https://www.ecoustics.com/news/mqa-bankruptcy/ "There have been a series of events in recent months that likely explain why MQA filed when it did. First, MQA’s attempt to get the MQAir codec into the Bluetooth standard failed when the Bluetooth SIG did not add it to the latest release. MQA had certainly been hoping for that as it would have given them a leg up on other competing codecs as being in the standard would ensure broader compatibility than any of the current proprietary offerings (aptX, LDAC, LHDC, etc.). " https://myemail.constantcontact.com/The-Audio-Voice-414--The-Case-of-the-SCL6-Scalable-Codec--How-Much-Do-You-Want-Hi-Res-Audio-.html?soid=1104292817535&aid=6aJSuNESaAs "I'm getting used to visceral reactions that any reference to the name MQA generates, independently of what we're talking about. We've seen those reactions happening when the new SCL6 scalable codec was officially announced as MQair back in November 2022, a strategy that apparently the company has decided to retrieve to avoid any confusion with the original MQA system solution." With other words he says that anything which refers to MQA will have trouble to be well received. Good message for us. MikeyFresh 1 i7 11850H + RTX A2000 Win11 HQPlayer ► Topping HS02 ► 2x iFi iSilencer ► SMSL D300 ► DIY headamp DHA1 ► HiFiMan HE-500 Link to comment
Popular Post bambadoo Posted April 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2023 Well isn´t this good timing. GregWormald, sphinxsix, bogi and 1 other 4 Link to comment
bambadoo Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 6 hours ago, FredericV said: Why would he rate limit the comments? "Members are limited to commenting once every 5 minutes on this post." Now commenting has been turned off. Guess the responses did not come the way he wanted. Link to comment
botrytis Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 4 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: The eternal optimist. Next time I have a bad day, I should call Peter V. He could spin any tragedy into a can't lose, opportunity not to be missed. I have to give him credit. There are some things best left untouched or tried. Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 hours ago, bambadoo said: Well isn´t this good timing. These may become a pricey rarity on E-bay some day but I think I will order this one: Link to comment
Stereo Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 10 hours ago, bambadoo said: Well isn´t this good timing. Reminds me of this bit: Link to comment
Iving Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 from another forum - memes are for sharing, right? Link to comment
stefano_mbp Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 @Iving … ... too much honour, a mass grave would already be too much … 😉 Stefano My audio system Link to comment
bambadoo Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Roon community also closes down threads regarding the failure of MQA. Roon is as all know outcome from Meridian and have always got "exclusive rights" with unfolding (sorry upsampling) and only solution that supports dsp with mqa streams (as far as I know) Link to comment
Iving Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, stefano_mbp said: @Iving … ... too much honour, a mass grave would already be too much … 😉 What's interesting to me ... I reckon the internet response - mainly on music related forums - is overwhelmingly "favourable" about the latest developments. Plenty of "likes" on posts declaring Rupert resignation and Administration news. The meme i just posted my favourite of all posts. If there are any folks upset about it all, or nurturing an alternative point of view, they are keeping very quiet on MQA threads. Possible exception of likes of PV and LS as we have seen. Lots of people saying this is overdue - and they're right. Yeah MQA is a dodo - and the honour equity is definitely negative. MikeyFresh 1 Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted April 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2023 https://www.ecoustics.com/news/mqa-bankruptcy/ Referred to above, I think it explains the situation well. SCL6 is seen as viable, MQA itself isn't. MQA itself may be kept alive on a limited basis. I think that even if it is, it's effectively dead. It can't make money and I predict manufacturers will stop adding it to new products. So even if it "survives", it will be a legacy product in a few years. botrytis and bogi 2 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Popular Post Iving Posted April 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, firedog said: https://www.ecoustics.com/news/mqa-bankruptcy/ Referred to above, I think it explains the situation well. SCL6 is seen as viable, MQA itself isn't. MQA itself may be kept alive on a limited basis. I think that even if it is, it's effectively dead. It can't make money and I predict manufacturers will stop adding it to new products. So even if it "survives", it will be a legacy product in a few years. This seems right to me. MQA's and their investors' pipedream - absolutely coining it by reselling the back catalogues - monopolising and commercially exploiting the supply chain from artist to retailer - leveraging a new generation of hardware to boot - well I can't see how that's possible after Rupert withdrawal and MQA in administration. The viability of that objective has expired. I couldn't care about much else. Too much music already in the wild to enjoy. Linn deserve a re-mention. Jim Collinson's 2017 piece: https://www.linn.co.uk/uk/blog/mqa-is-bad-for-music-heres-why bogi, botrytis and MikeyFresh 3 Link to comment
Popular Post FredericV Posted April 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2023 2 hours ago, bambadoo said: Roon community also closes down threads regarding the failure of MQA. Roon is as all know outcome from Meridian and have always got "exclusive rights" with unfolding (sorry upsampling) and only solution that supports dsp with mqa streams (as far as I know) The blame was to be expected: @Archimago and @GoldenOne did it ;) UkPhil, robi20064, GregWormald and 11 others 1 13 Designer of the 432 EVO music server and Linux specialist Discoverer of the independent open source sox based mqa playback method with optional one cycle postringing. Link to comment
bogi Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 About closing MQA related discussion on Roon forum: Roon is through Sooloos related to Meridian, like MQA is too. https://www.mrtechguy.co.uk/sooloos-migration-to-roon/ i7 11850H + RTX A2000 Win11 HQPlayer ► Topping HS02 ► 2x iFi iSilencer ► SMSL D300 ► DIY headamp DHA1 ► HiFiMan HE-500 Link to comment
RichardSF Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 On 4/6/2023 at 12:23 PM, Skirmash said: Would Tidal themselves consider purchasing it? They have sunk significant effort into making MQA a point of difference! Tidal have skin in the game and I think it's a definite possibility. It wouldn't be Tidal itself purchasing MQA, but Tidal's owner Block Inc. Block (Square) paid $300M for Tidal and they can easily purchase MQA. Link to comment
DuckToller Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 1 hour ago, FredericV said: The blame was to be expected: @Archimago and @GoldenOne did it ;) They have @botrytis has a point there - with MQAnon - ok @JoeWhip as well with the flat-earthers analogy ;-) Interesting part is that PV hast a special lowland bachelor degree in chemistry, which obviously means he is the one who knows everything about "click-bait driven, not science" & prevailing truth ! Link to comment
Popular Post JoeWhip Posted April 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2023 The not science quip by PV is right out of the flat earth playbook. They are the only ones doing science. Traditional science is just pseudoscience. Currawong, DuckToller and MikeyFresh 3 Link to comment
Popular Post bubbleguuum Posted April 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2023 LOL MQA. That tech in search of a problem cannot disappear fast enough. Iving, jriver and MikeyFresh 2 1 Link to comment
Currawong Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Denial is a river in Egypt. Link to comment
jma2 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Curious to see who will take over the IP (as far as still alive), and how long they will keep on paying the renewal fees for the remains: https://register.epo.org/smartSearch?searchMode=smart&query=MQA And for me, MQA is not a dodo. I have too much sympathy for Raphus cucullatus to get it associated with something like MQA ;-) Link to comment
botrytis Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 2 hours ago, DuckToller said: They have @botrytis has a point there - with MQAnon - ok @JoeWhip as well with the flat-earthers analogy ;-) Interesting part is that PV hast a special lowland bachelor degree in chemistry, which obviously means he is the one who knows everything about "click-bait driven, not science" & prevailing truth ! They remind of the Catholic church when they excommunicated Galileo, then had to come and Un-excommunicate him - it only took 500 years... Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
jriver Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Currawong said: Denial is a river in Egypt. Is not. The Computer Audiophile 1 Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center / jriver.com Link to comment
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