MQA is Vaporware

[JoeWhip]

Like a true flat earther, he will dig in and defend MQA, regardless of the facts. I know some flat earthers who would still deny the Earth is a sphere, even if they were taken into orbit. Veth strikes me as one of those types.

[Iving]

45 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

The eternal optimist. Next time I have a bad day, I should call Peter V. He could spin any tragedy into a can't lose, opportunity not to be missed. I have to give him credit. 

 

24 minutes ago, firedog said:

Classic cognitive dissonance. He's spent years vociferously defending it, no matter what.

What will he say when it actually fails and goes away?

 

More of same here: Post in thread 'Whither MQA' https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/whither-mqa.36636/post-868051

[FredericV]

One of the better articles:

https://www.ecoustics.com/news/mqa-bankruptcy/

since it answers why the main backer would be seeking an exit, and why they renamed MQair into SCL6:
 

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There have been a series of events in recent months that likely explain why MQA filed when it did.   

First, MQA’s attempt to get the MQAir codec into the Bluetooth standard failed when the Bluetooth SIG did not add it to the latest release. MQA had certainly been hoping for that as it would have given them a leg up on other competing codecs as being in the standard would ensure broader compatibility than any of the current proprietary offerings (aptX, LDAC, LHDC, etc.). 

The rest is history
 

[bogi]

24 minutes ago, FredericV said:

https://www.ecoustics.com/news/mqa-bankruptcy/
"There have been a series of events in recent months that likely explain why MQA filed when it did.   

First, MQA’s attempt to get the MQAir codec into the Bluetooth standard failed when the Bluetooth SIG did not add it to the latest release. MQA had certainly been hoping for that as it would have given them a leg up on other competing codecs as being in the standard would ensure broader compatibility than any of the current proprietary offerings (aptX, LDAC, LHDC, etc.). "

https://myemail.constantcontact.com/The-Audio-Voice-414--The-Case-of-the-SCL6-Scalable-Codec--How-Much-Do-You-Want-Hi-Res-Audio-.html?soid=1104292817535&aid=6aJSuNESaAs

"I'm getting used to visceral reactions that any reference to the name MQA generates, independently of what we're talking about. We've seen those reactions happening when the new SCL6 scalable codec was officially announced as MQair back in November 2022, a strategy that apparently the company has decided to retrieve to avoid any confusion with the original MQA system solution."

With other words he says that anything which refers to MQA will have trouble to be well received. Good message for us.

[bambadoo]

Well isn´t this good timing. 

 

[bambadoo]

6 hours ago, FredericV said:

Why would he rate limit the comments?

"Members are limited to commenting once every 5 minutes on this post."





 

Now commenting has been turned off. 

Guess the responses did not come the way he wanted. 

[botrytis]

4 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

The eternal optimist. Next time I have a bad day, I should call Peter V. He could spin any tragedy into a can't lose, opportunity not to be missed. I have to give him credit. 

 

There are some things best left untouched or tried.

[sphinxsix]

2 hours ago, bambadoo said:

Well isn´t this good timing. 

 

 

These may become a pricey rarity on E-bay some day but I think I will order this one:

 

[Stereo]

10 hours ago, bambadoo said:

Well isn´t this good timing. 

 

Reminds me of this bit:  

 

 

[Iving]

 

from another forum - memes are for sharing, right?

[stefano_mbp]

@Iving … ... too much honour, a mass grave would already be too much … 😉

[bambadoo]

Roon community also closes down threads regarding the failure of MQA. 

Roon is as all know outcome from Meridian and have always got "exclusive rights" with unfolding (sorry upsampling) and only solution that supports dsp with mqa streams (as far as I know)

 

 

[Iving]

2 minutes ago, stefano_mbp said:

@Iving … ... too much honour, a mass grave would already be too much … 😉

 

What's interesting to me ... I reckon the internet response - mainly on music related forums - is overwhelmingly "favourable" about the latest developments. Plenty of "likes" on posts declaring Rupert resignation and Administration news. The meme i just posted my favourite of all posts. If there are any folks upset about it all, or nurturing an alternative point of view, they are keeping very quiet on MQA threads. Possible exception of likes of PV and LS as we have seen. Lots of people saying this is overdue - and they're right.

 

Yeah MQA is a dodo - and the honour equity is definitely negative.

[firedog]

https://www.ecoustics.com/news/mqa-bankruptcy/

 

Referred to above, I think it explains the situation well. 

SCL6 is seen as viable, MQA itself isn't. 

 

MQA itself may be kept alive on a limited basis. 

I think that even if it is, it's effectively dead. It can't make money and I predict manufacturers will stop adding it to new products. So even if it "survives", it will be a legacy product in a few years. 

[Iving]

11 minutes ago, firedog said:

https://www.ecoustics.com/news/mqa-bankruptcy/

 

Referred to above, I think it explains the situation well. 

SCL6 is seen as viable, MQA itself isn't. 

 

MQA itself may be kept alive on a limited basis. 

I think that even if it is, it's effectively dead. It can't make money and I predict manufacturers will stop adding it to new products. So even if it "survives", it will be a legacy product in a few years. 

 

This seems right to me.

 

MQA's and their investors' pipedream - absolutely coining it by reselling the back catalogues - monopolising and commercially exploiting the supply chain from artist to retailer - leveraging a new generation of hardware to boot - well I can't see how that's possible after Rupert withdrawal and MQA in administration. The viability of that objective has expired. I couldn't care about much else. Too much music already in the wild to enjoy.

 

Linn deserve a re-mention. Jim Collinson's 2017 piece: https://www.linn.co.uk/uk/blog/mqa-is-bad-for-music-heres-why

[FredericV]

2 hours ago, bambadoo said:

Roon community also closes down threads regarding the failure of MQA. 

Roon is as all know outcome from Meridian and have always got "exclusive rights" with unfolding (sorry upsampling) and only solution that supports dsp with mqa streams (as far as I know)

 

The blame was to be expected: @Archimago and @GoldenOne did it ;)




 

[bogi]

About closing MQA related discussion on Roon forum: Roon is through Sooloos related to Meridian, like MQA is too.
https://www.mrtechguy.co.uk/sooloos-migration-to-roon/

[RichardSF]

On 4/6/2023 at 12:23 PM, Skirmash said:

Would Tidal themselves consider purchasing it? They have sunk significant effort into making MQA a point of difference!

Tidal have skin in the game and I think it's a definite possibility. It wouldn't be Tidal itself purchasing MQA, but Tidal's owner Block Inc. Block (Square) paid $300M for Tidal and they can easily purchase MQA.

[DuckToller]

1 hour ago, FredericV said:

The blame was to be expected: @Archimago and @GoldenOne did it ;)




 

They have  @botrytis has a point there - with MQAnon - ok @JoeWhip as well with the flat-earthers analogy ;-)
Interesting part is that PV hast a special lowland bachelor degree in chemistry, which obviously means he is the one who knows everything about "click-bait driven, not science" & prevailing truth !

[JoeWhip]

The not science quip by PV is right out of the flat earth playbook. They are the only ones doing science. Traditional science is just pseudoscience.

[bubbleguuum]

LOL MQA.

That tech in search of a problem cannot disappear fast enough.

[Currawong]

Denial is a river in Egypt.

[jma2]

Curious to see who will take over the IP (as far as still alive), and how long they will keep on paying the renewal fees for the remains:

https://register.epo.org/smartSearch?searchMode=smart&query=MQA

 

And for me, MQA is not a dodo. I have too much sympathy for Raphus cucullatus to get it associated with something like MQA ;-)

[botrytis]

2 hours ago, DuckToller said:

They have  @botrytis has a point there - with MQAnon - ok @JoeWhip as well with the flat-earthers analogy ;-)
Interesting part is that PV hast a special lowland bachelor degree in chemistry, which obviously means he is the one who knows everything about "click-bait driven, not science" & prevailing truth !

 

They remind of the Catholic church when they excommunicated Galileo, then had to come and Un-excommunicate him - it only took 500 years... 

[jriver]

1 hour ago, Currawong said:

Denial is a river in Egypt.

Is not.