Request for new Forum - Vinyl

[One and a half]

When the name changed to Audiophile Style divorcing the computer audio moniker, there's no Vinyl forum, can we have one?

[StephenJK]

What do you propose we do with a Vinyl forum? 

 

I can see a place for having accurate technical or setup information, but you wouldn't or couldn't replace Vinyl Engine.  

 

I can also see being able to respond to questions other people may have, presuming there's enough people who hang out here that are able and willing to do that.  

 

Or do you see it as a place to post reviews of LPs that you believe have some merit due to their content or quality?

 

 

[wgscott]

Dead, obsolete technology.  

 

 

There's always analogue planetoid.

[StephenJK]

16 hours ago, wgscott said:

Dead, obsolete technology.  

 

 

There's always analogue planetoid.

You obviously have no interest, others may.

[Ralf11]

23 hours ago, wgscott said:

Dead, obsolete technology.  

 

 

 

...which of course makes it the perfect 'Audiophile' topic

[One and a half]

On 8/30/2019 at 5:06 AM, SJK said:

What do you propose we do with a Vinyl forum? 

 

I can see a place for having accurate technical or setup information, but you wouldn't or couldn't replace Vinyl Engine.  

 

I can also see being able to respond to questions other people may have, presuming there's enough people who hang out here that are able and willing to do that.  

 

Or do you see it as a place to post reviews of LPs that you believe have some merit due to their content or quality?

 

 

Vinyl Engine is a great resource, spending quite a few hours there, thanks for the suggestion, well done. There’s little point to have a mirror site here, when data is already collated on another comprehensive site.

Request withdrawn!

[One and a half]

On 8/30/2019 at 5:09 AM, wgscott said:

Dead, obsolete technology.  

 

 

There's always analogue planetoid.

Would you call the music that’s not available on digital media also dead?

[4est]

23 minutes ago, One and a half said:

Would you call the music that’s not available on digital media also dead?

Agreed. I have never understood that perspective. I prefer to have my music in the form it was actually recorded in- whatever that may be...

[rando]

The amount of members with thousands of LP's and interest in needledrops should be enough to warrant a few lines of code.  Much less the amount of equipment and programs readily available for said marriage of digital and analog.

[Samuel T Cogley]

There's a surprising (at least to me) amount of just wrong information on the forums about turntable and tonearm/cartridge setup.  There's also some useful information as well.  I think that if a vinyl sub-forum could be curated by someone genuinely knowledgeable about the mechanical and electrical  aspects, it could be useful.  Threads titled "show us your turntable", not so much.

[Samuel T Cogley]

2 minutes ago, rando said:

The amount of members with thousands of LP's and interest in needledrops should be enough to warrant a few lines of code.  Much less the amount of equipment and programs readily available for said marriage of digital and analog.

 

Capturing turntable output digitally has taught me in exquisite detail just how lacking vinyl tech is compared to modern digital.  But many, many recordings have never crossed the digital divide and it's always good when someone is able to make a high quality transfer.  I look at it as an archiving task that might benefit future generations of audiophiles.

[pkane2001]

11 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

 

Capturing turntable output digitally has taught me in exquisite detail just how lacking vinyl tech is compared to modern digital.  But many, many recordings have never crossed the digital divide and it's always good when someone is able to make a high quality transfer.  I look at it as an archiving task that might benefit future generations of audiophiles.

 

Forget vinyl. Wax has the best, most natural sound. Let’s get a Wax subforum!

 

http://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/browse.php

[AudioDoctor]

+1 for wax cylinders!!

[Hugo9000]

OMG let's not forget wire recordings.  And what about shellac 78s?  How much music never made it from 78 to any other format in the intervening decades?  That's actually really sad from a historical point of view, if not for audiophiles of today or tomorrow.

 

Perhaps Analog Media & Playback, with subs for specific formats like Reel to Reel, 78 RPM and classic Victrola machines, 33 1/3 & 45 vinyl, etc.  I suspect there wouldn't be much input/activity for Victrola, but some of them sure qualify as eyecandy haha!  I have a creepy relative who owned a large number of older music playback devices, including a player piano, wire playback, wax cylinder machine, several gorgeous Victrolas, and some others I've forgotten.  He was also an early adopter for things like laser disc, video recorders (he had a gigantic VHS deck in 1976, the first I ever saw--I recall the year because of the U.S. bicentennial celebrations, which he taped to show off his new toy), and the CD.  

[One and a half]

31 minutes ago, Hugo9000 said:

OMG let's not forget wire recordings.  And what about shellac 78s?  How much music never made it from 78 to any other format in the intervening decades?  That's actually really sad from a historical point of view, if not for audiophiles of today or tomorrow.

 

Perhaps Analog Media & Playback, with subs for specific formats like Reel to Reel, 78 RPM and classic Victrola machines, 33 1/3 & 45 vinyl, etc.  I suspect there wouldn't be much input/activity for Victrola, but some of them sure qualify as eyecandy haha!  I have a creepy relative who owned a large number of older music playback devices, including a player piano, wire playback, wax cylinder machine, several gorgeous Victrolas, and some others I've forgotten.  He was also an early adopter for things like laser disc, video recorders (he had a gigantic VHS deck in 1976, the first I ever saw--I recall the year because of the U.S. bicentennial celebrations, which he taped to show off his new toy), and the CD.  

Yes, mentioning the past methods of recordings would be worthwhile from a historic perspective as quite a few items are becoming rarer. Not understanding the past creates an uncertain future. Certainly using modern techniques to capture the fidelity and the message of entrapped music from long ago would be worth an interesting read. 

[One and a half]

4 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

 

 

...which of course makes it the perfect 'Audiophile' topic

Well that comment went flat.

[sandyk]

On ‎8‎/‎29‎/‎2019 at 7:31 PM, One and a half said:

When the name changed to Audiophile Style divorcing the computer audio moniker, there's no Vinyl forum, can we have one?

 

This forum is Audiophile Style and deserves it's own Vinyl Forum as many members own Turntables and Vinyl recordings, and there has been a resurgence back to Vinyl in recent years , perhaps mainly due to the Loudness Wars which still continue unabated these days.

 Just because it may in theory be technically inferior in most respects to high quality Digital recordings does not mean that it should be ignored as a valuable resource of musical history. Add to that, the fact that many earlier

Vinyl recordings never made it to digital, or are no longer available. Many recent LP releases also appear to be markedly superior to earlier Vinyl pressings, with many having an extended frequency response too.

[wgscott]

We also need a forum on vinyl press power supplies.

 

[StephenJK]

2 hours ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

 

Capturing turntable output digitally has taught me in exquisite detail just how lacking vinyl tech is compared to modern digital.  But many, many recordings have never crossed the digital divide and it's always good when someone is able to make a high quality transfer.  I look at it as an archiving task that might benefit future generations of audiophiles.

My father gave me his Jazz LPs that he had collected when he was young and single in Montreal after the war.  

 

This was 10” LPs from the late 40’s and to the mid 50’s.  Albums that cost $4.75 way back then. 

 

Most of them were virtually unplayable despite having been cleaned with a Keith Monks machine by Oakwood Audio in Winnipeg in the early 80’s in exchange for being able to record them on tape.

 

Years later I was finally able to put together the system to not only record them digitally but also to run them through software to remove what wgscott calls snap, crackle and pop.

 

There’s music that you just can’t find any other way, be it Louis Armstrong’s Hot Five,  Bix Beiderbecke, Jonah Jones or Meade Lux Lewis and Lous Bellson - it’s magical stuff.

 

You see the same songs played with different interpretations by incredibly accomplished and talented musicians in so many ways. 

 

It’s all about the music.

 

 

[Hugo9000]

50 minutes ago, wgscott said:

We also need a forum on vinyl press power supplies.

 

I can already feel my anxiety level ramping up, and I don't even have a turntable currently.  😱

 

(I own 3 opera boxed sets that I acquired new and sealed, that sat in a warehouse for approx. 40 years waiting for me haha!  Oh, and the 20th Anniversary vinyl reissue of Mariah Carey's Butterfly.  I also had the gatefold, 2-LP deluxe Chris Isaak Beyond the Sun, but it may not have survived my cross-country move, or it's just still packed away somewhere haha!)

 

I think everyone who feels that power supplies that are included with gear are inferior/horrible should expend some energy shaming the equipment manufacturers.  After all, many of these products being tweaked cost tens of thousands of dollars, I think the consumer is entitled to expect that they'd get something as basic as the power supply right at those costs.  Why would they even wish to give a penny to such awful companies if aftermarket tweaks are needed for musicality/whatever?  No thanks.  (I can understand where it's a low-priced product, and a cheap tweak could actually do something useful.  Can't think of a concrete example right now.  lol)  Anywho.  Not that anyone in real life wants my opinion, so I wouldn't expect anything more from strangers on the internet hahaha!

[kumakuma]

[sandyk]

1 hour ago, Hugo9000 said:

(I can understand where it's a low-priced product, and a cheap tweak could actually do something useful.  Can't think of a concrete example right now.  lol)

 

 There are numerous products of all different types with a DC Input jack that have been supplied with a cheap and nasty SMPS plugpack that can be improved simply by plugging in a well designed Linear PSU, or even a higher quality Professional grade SMPS supply.

[Ralf11]

to be fair, there should also be an 8-track forum

 

tho I'd prefer one on cassettes

[AudioDoctor]

I'll take nothing less than a player piano forum...

[JezQ]

I found this to be a real treasure http://great78.archive.org/