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  1. Eyes provide a very strong input into the audio perception of position. Ears have a very coarse sense of direction, and we usually use them to help look in the generally right direction to pinpoint the source of sound. Once sighted, the ‘audible’ position becomes much more precise in our mind. Without sighted position, soundstage and instrument locations are much more vague.
  2. Here are a couple of books that I like on this subject: First one is interesting because it discusses other effects, such as reverb and comb filtering, sound decay, pitch changes, etc., in addition to the standard ITD/ILD models and also has a chapter on how sound is generated by various musical instruments: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320537658_Acoustics_and_psychoacoustics_Fifth_edition This is a more in-depth treatment written more like a textbook: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303018400_The_Auditory_System_and_Human_Sound_Localizati
  3. Phase inversion or absolute phase is also not what I’m talking about. But signal phase differences between the two ears carry a lot of information about position/soundstage, as do level differences. I’ll post the title of a good book on spatial hearing I read recently. Maybe it’ll help with the definition.
  4. I suspect you’re talking about absolute phase, and that indeed is not involved in spatial hearing. Phase is.
  5. Nice story, Frank, except it goes against everything known about spatial hearing. Position in space is determined primarily by timing (phase) and level differences between the two ears, as well as reverb that helps with depth perception.
  6. Is soundstage a physical property of sound or something derived by the brain, i.e., perceived?
  7. One is easy to measure the other is not.
  8. I'm happy for you, oh Enlightened One! It wasn't all time wasted for me either, I did manage to put away all the leftover food from the Thanksgiving dinner during this time, and believe me, it was a lot!
  9. Not a chance. This has already gone way too long for no good reason. I'm not going to start from the beginning.
  10. I'll let you argue your case at Merriam-Webster. If they agree to change their definition, I'll agree with their decision :) But again, you've ignored the fact that I specifically described the context of how I was using these words in the original post. You, instead, decided to use another context outside my message and have been arguing about this for over an hour. Sorry I wasn't much clearer. Next time I'll include links to dictionary definitions of all the words I use.
  11. Yes, audio is any reproduction of sound. The term doesn't say anything about quality or believability. An old wind-up gramophone was an audio device. I didn't say we shouldn't study perception -- I just said it's a much more complicated field because of all the different components that go into forming a perception.
  12. So, your whole disagreement stems from your desire to redefine common English words to mean something that makes sense to you but disagrees with the everyday use of these words. OK, I got it.
  13. Sound and Audio are common words. If you want to use them to mean something different, then you do so, but don't expect others to understand you. I clearly described the context when I used these words, and it happens to match the common use definition in the language we are using to communicate.
  14. You both are missing the fact that I specifically described the context that I used the word 'sound' in. If you want it to mean something else, sorry, that wasn't what I wrote or meant to write.
  15. Hmm, no, audio is not about perception. It's about sound reproduction. Sound being the physical phenomenon we already discussed. Perceived sound is the result of physical or audio-generated sound, and occurs in one's head, not in the power cable or the DAC or the speakers. We are again, getting into definitions of common words, such as audio or sound. I suggest that you take a quick survey of various English dictionaries if you disagree with my definitions of 'sound' or 'audio'. But sound has nothing to do with senses. It exists even with no human around. And
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