Tidal Loses CEO

[firedog]

11 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

Totally false. I'm a libertarian. Live and let live. 

 

Please let me know where I brought up racism or baited you. It's funny when I ask for reasons and you jump to "I'm not racists." Similar to when I walk in the house and my daughter immediately tells me she didn't eat all the cookies (without me saying anything about cookies).

 

I simply asked people why they go against their own interests. I never said anything about people not agreeing with me shouldn't be able to vote with their own dollars. 

 

I did ask for help understanding their position because it doesn't make sense to me. That's all. 

 

Now you don't support Tidal because Sean Carter used the legal system to the best of his ability, just like you or I would? You think a prosecutor put his career on the line to let Sean Carter off? Wow. And you factor this into your lossless music streaming thought process. Wow.

 

Miles Davis beat his wife. Please stop listening to his music and sell all your albums. 

 

I support CFA to do whatever they want. I'm not sacrificing by not eating the food. I can eat at millions of other places. On the other hand, you are sacrificing by streaming lossy music because Tidal is the only game in town, and you do that like the guy who committed crimes 17 years ago. It's just strange to me. 

Can't even count the number of jazz musicians who were junkies. And musicians of all types who abused spouses or girlfriends or dealt in drugs. 

How about athletes?

So do you boycott all sports, jazz, rock, and any corporation associated with sports leagues and athletes?

 I can understand boycotting a musician b/c of something he/she is doing today. But 17 years ago?

 

Full disclosure: I refuse to spend any money on anything relating to Michael Jackson, now that he is dead...why? Because the money now goes to the family, who were the people who abused and exploited  him from childhood and turned him into a messed up freak. I don't want to reward them. 

[Toolio]

It is somewhat ironic that a music-focussed discussion would centre on objections to drug use and criminality in a profession that has plenty of both. This includes most genres of music, although I suspect classical may be a little lower on the scale. But more ironic is the notion in some posts of "guilty despite being proven innocent." Each of us is entitled to the best possible defence in a court of law. If that defence is as successful as possible, it often results in a decision of innocence. Until, of course, the judge and jury of Audiophile forums surface.

 I'm a middle-aged white Canadian who for almost 20 years has lived in a predominantly black, African-influenced culture (Salvador, Brasil). I don't give a shit about the colour of anyone's skin, and I never have. I subscribe to Tidal because I like it, I'm not a big fan of Jay Z because I find his personality annoying. I think Kendrick Lamar is a genius and listen to a few other rappers from time to time, but I would not describe myself as fan of rap. So, after reading this discussion I'm not sure what I am any more, except perhaps bemused by some of the responses.

[Duke40]

Why do politics & racism, have to appear in so many audio threads ?

i just don't understand the link between the three topics.

[mav52]

32 minutes ago, Duke40 said:

Why do politics & racism, have to appear in so many audio threads ?

i just don't understand the link between the three topics.

 

Because 'race' and 'politics' are allowed on this site. Surprised 'religion' didn't get brought into it well it

 

Heck, if people stopped buying music from artist that have used drugs, were arrested for drugs or for abuse of some kind, there would be few albums sold these days.

[elcorso]

54 minutes ago, Duke40 said:

Why do politics & racism, have to appear in so many audio threads ?

i just don't understand the link between the three topics.

 

According to Plato that posits that man is essentially a political animal.

 

I could add, a racist, religionis and even a rapper animal...

 

But no one is required to read or follow each thread.

 

Roch

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

7 hours ago, firedog said:

Can't even count the number of jazz musicians who were junkies. And musicians of all types who abused spouses or girlfriends or dealt in drugs. 

How about athletes?

So do you boycott all sports, jazz, rock, and any corporation associated with sports leagues and athletes?

 I can understand boycotting a musician b/c of something he/she is doing today. But 17 years ago?

 

Full disclosure: I refuse to spend any money on anything relating to Michael Jackson, now that he is dead...why? Because the money now goes to the family, who were the people who abused and exploited  him from childhood and turned him into a messed up freak. I don't want to reward them. 

 

I hope you saw that I wasn't serious in advocating not listening to Miles Davis. Just making sure. 

[firedog]

1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I hope you saw that I wasn't serious in advocating not listening to Miles Davis. Just making sure. 

Of course. Wasn't referring to you.  I just don't get the whole "he was a bad guy once, let's boycott him" position. If applied consistently, about half the musicians in the world would be boycotted.

[The Computer Audiophile]

59 minutes ago, firedog said:

Of course. Wasn't referring to you.  I just don't get the whole "he was a bad guy once, let's boycott him" position. If applied consistently, about half the musicians in the world would be boycotted.

 

I with you 100%

[Sal1950]

12 hours ago, kumakuma said:

 

Veganism is Murder

Thanks for that link, it gave me a real chuckle.

Ya just gotta love Jessica Simpson. 

 

PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - is at it again. When actress Jessica Simpson recently wore a T-shirt bearing the words “Real Girls Eat Meat,”

the animal-rights zealots pounced. -----------------

[Sal1950]

1 hour ago, firedog said:

Of course. Wasn't referring to you.  I just don't get the whole "he was a bad guy once, let's boycott him" position. If applied consistently, about half the musicians in the world would be boycotted.

Be sure to get your copy of OJ's  "If I Did It : Confessions of the Killer. After all it's been 25 years since he cut Nicole and Ron's throats and he was found innocent by our genius legal system. He just might need a few extra bucks for the lawyers at his next parole hearing.

[firedog]

9 minutes ago, Sal1950 said:

Be sure to get your copy of OJ's  "If I Did It : Confessions of the Killer. After all it's been 25 years since he cut Nicole and Ron's throats and he was found innocent by our genius legal system. He just might need a few extra bucks for the lawyers at his next parole hearing.

Non sequitur. False analogy. OJ doesn't acknowledge his crimes, hasn't reformed himself, and makes no positive contribution to society. Innocent or guilty  by the legal system has nothing to do with morality.

[Sal1950]

8 minutes ago, firedog said:

Innocent or guilty  by the legal system has nothing to do with morality.

Now your getting it.

[The Computer Audiophile]

13 hours ago, kumakuma said:

 

Veganism is Murder

 

It's hard to take a site seriously that pushes intelligent design :~)

[Ralf11]

13 hours ago, Teresa said:

 

We don't kill plants, we eat the fruit they deliver. If no one ate it, fruits, vegetables and nuts would rot on the ground.

 

of course we kill plants sometimes when we pull them out of the ground and eat them

 

and nuts and fruits are reproductive bodies that would grow into new plants if eaten

 

was the post a joke??

[kumakuma]

45 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

It's hard to take a site seriously that pushes intelligent design :~)

 

Intelligent Design seems as credible as many of the beliefs that your typical audiophile holds.   

[crenca]

28 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

 

Intelligent Design seems as credible as many of the beliefs that your typical audiophile holds.   

 

Too true, too true...

[The Computer Audiophile]

It's good to see we can share a laugh. Thanks @kumakuma

[wgscott]

3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

It's hard to take a site seriously that pushes intelligent design :~)

 

That website is classic.

 

There is an article ironically entitled Misrepresenting Darwin's Finches with a huge photo of a zebra finch, which is a common domestic pet that originates from Australia and has nothing to do with Darwin's Finches or the Galapagos.

[Ralf11]

33 minutes ago, wgscott said:

 

That website is classic.

 

There is an article ironically entitled Misrepresenting Darwin's Finches with a huge photo of a zebra finch, which is a common domestic pet that originates from Australia and has nothing to do with Darwin's Finches or the Galapagos.

 

At least they didn't have a huge photo of Atticus Finch

[wgscott]

5 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

 

At least they didn't have a huge photo of Atticus Finch

 

The original, or the racist revision?

[Ralf11]

we'd better go with races as that will fit into the sub-species line of argument

[arcman]

Hey everybody

 

I am a Christian

 

I love Chik-fil-A

 

i like Tidal , but I love Qobuz ( I subscribe to both)

 

i dont like Rap in general, but enjoy certain selections

 

i think President Obama lacked leadership skills, but I respect his position liked some things he did

 

Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are unelectable in general elections

 

i don't care who Miles Davis beat up, I like his music

 

I don't care Jim Gordon killed his mom

 

i don't care if Michael Jackson liked boys

 

i don't care who uses my restroom

 

i don't care who sleeps with who or what

 

i don't care if half of the gadgets we buy were built by 7 year olds

 

i don't care ....I don't care...Most of you don't either...Stop being phonies!!! 

 

 

[Sal1950]

9 minutes ago, arcman said:

i don't care ....I don't care...Most of you don't either...Stop being phonies!!! 

You get a like for making me laugh.  

[AudioDoctor]

6 hours ago, arcman said:

Hey everybody

 

I am a Christian

 

I love Chik-fil-A

 

i like Tidal , but I love Qobuz ( I subscribe to both)

 

i dont like Rap in general, but enjoy certain selections

 

i think President Obama lacked leadership skills, but I respect his position liked some things he did

 

Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are unelectable in general elections

 

i don't care who Miles Davis beat up, I like his music

 

I don't care Jim Gordon killed his mom

 

i don't care if Michael Jackson liked boys

 

i don't care who uses my restroom

 

i don't care who sleeps with who or what

 

i don't care if half of the gadgets we buy were built by 7 year olds

 

i don't care ....I don't care...Most of you don't either...Stop being phonies!!! 

 

 

 

 

[christopher3393]