The Computer Audiophile Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 View full article RickyV 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
shum3s Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Hey Cris thanks for bringing this to our attention. I check their web site and they list no price, do you know how much the board cost? Back in 2014 I built the Pipeline server from your recipe, which is still my main server to this day. Will this board be a easy replacement? Also what CPU would you recommend I get for this board, using HQP? Thank You, Sam C.A.P. Pipeline, windows pro 10 > Roon > SOtM USB > Keces power supply > HDplex power supply > 4x2 HD Mini DSP > Ayre DSD QB-9 > Naim CDX > ModWright 9 S.E. Preamp > A21 Parasound Amplifier > Magnepan .7 > Augie's Dipole sub, ML sub, DIY sub > Dedicated room with acoustical treatment. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, shum3s said: Hey Cris thanks for bringing this to our attention. I check their web site and they list no price, do you know how much the board cost? Back in 2014 I built the Pipeline server from your recipe, which is still my main server to this day. Will this board be a easy replacement? Also what CPU would you recommend I get for this board, using HQP? Thank You, Sam Hi Sam, no pricing yet. I will ask. This is completely different from the one in Pipeline. You'd need/want new "everything." CPU depends on how you want to cool it and what you want the CPU to do (heavy DSP or no DSP, etc...). Fun stuff. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post bobfa Posted December 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2021 Karnak foresees an article someday soon..... AudioDoctor, The Computer Audiophile and rando 3 My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post AudioDoctor Posted December 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2021 I have been wanting something like this for a while now. My curiosity is certainly piqued. The Computer Audiophile and 4est 2 No electron left behind. Link to comment
Popular Post JCB Posted December 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2021 I would have expected special USB port, or a HDMI I2S output. I don't see clearly the difference with a regular MB, except the white color.. Gavin1977, TopQuark, MarcelNL and 2 others 5 Link to comment
One and a half Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 There's no support for Xeon? It's pretty much dead in the water for me then. Also wonder if a 24/7 operation has similar specs to a server class board. One good thing the only windows is the LTSC version support, of all Windows for audio, I found that OS to be the least to get in the way SQ wise. Ben-M 1 AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
rando Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Chris, I would greatly enjoy hearing your own thoughts on this product. Surely a site owner and proponent of digital audio for over a decade has gained insights and experiences of great value which might be selectively brought forwards in greater numbers. What beyond "geeky" "a neat product" and "Very cool indeed" could you in your role justify our interests with before transposing ad copy. How might you have posited remarkable awareness inviting a sophisticated basis for discussion, examination, or relevance to personal interests? Astute observations linking developments on this subject across your site seem oddly misplaced. Particularly when one considers searchable content revealing a high technical level of content ably stated by contributors weighing in on the exact profession they were engaged in. 9th and 8th gen Intel Core Processors place this board numerous years behind currently available options in the Core line. Choosing Intel is notable. Board layout and feature sets depicting this as a special market audiophile board is worth examination compared to what is available through mb currently on the market. mATX form factor is notable. Atypical. Directing attention towards how this board distinguishes itself as the base element of a fanless PC is a demand requiring much much more analysis. If you had cared to address any of the above in current article. I have little doubts as as to whether they would've been appreciated across the entire breadth of Audiophile Style membership and SEO directed interests. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, rando said: Chris, I would greatly enjoy hearing your own thoughts on this product. Surely a site owner and proponent of digital audio for over a decade has gained insights and experiences of great value which might be selectively brought forwards in greater numbers. What beyond "geeky" "a neat product" and "Very cool indeed" could you in your role justify our interests with before transposing ad copy. How might you have posited remarkable awareness inviting a sophisticated basis for discussion, examination, or relevance to personal interests? Astute observations linking developments on this subject across your site seem oddly misplaced. Particularly when one considers searchable content revealing a high technical level of content ably stated by contributors weighing in on the exact profession they were engaged in. 9th and 8th gen Intel Core Processors place this board numerous years behind currently available options in the Core line. Choosing Intel is notable. Board layout and feature sets depicting this as a special market audiophile board is worth examination compared to what is available through mb currently on the market. mATX form factor is notable. Atypical. Directing attention towards how this board distinguishes itself as the base element of a fanless PC is a demand requiring much much more analysis. If you had cared to address any of the above in current article. I have little doubts as as to whether they would've been appreciated across the entire breadth of Audiophile Style membership and SEO directed interests. I don't like to speculate on this stuff because the board literally just came out and I don't like to intimate things like "9th and 8th gen Intel Core Processors place this board numerous years behind currently available options in the Core line" as some sort of negative. If I talk to SOtM and get more details about design decisions (and the company is willing to offer this up), I would then be in a better place to render an opinion. Until then, I'm only speculating and making statements for the sake of hearing my own voice. Choice of Intel over AMD or Arm isn't notable in the least to me. mATX isn't atypical to me either. rando 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
rando Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 To be fair Chris I did not place words in your mouth. I made a broadly sweeping critique in the comments section of an article. Whether you are aware of it or not, I appreciate you taking the time to respond in terms which promote some awareness of outside views. After reading and considering what you have wrote. I would like to point out the difference between opinion and placement of fact in a way that encourages the reader to give thought towards a single piece and the whole. Everything matters! Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, rando said: To be fair Chris I did not place words in your mouth. I made a broadly sweeping critique in the comments section of an article. Whether you are aware of it or not, I appreciate you taking the time to respond in terms which promote some awareness of outside views. After reading and considering what you have wrote. I would like to point out the difference between opinion and placement of fact in a way that encourages the reader to give thought towards a single piece and the whole. Everything matters! My response just gave examples of why I don't really have any comments about the items you mentioned. Everyone is free to share their opinions. However, without any context, your opinions are hard to make sense of. Suggesting an Intel processor is notable, doesn't tell anyone anything. I have no reason to say, I find SOtM's use of Intel processors normal, as I do the mATX motherboard. I don't write because more words are better. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
rando Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 So which Karnac can we expect will be avoiding this range of specifications you state are unnotable? In their upcoming review of note. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 I have no idea what that means. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 hours ago, rando said: Chris, I would greatly enjoy hearing your own thoughts on this product. Surely a site owner and proponent of digital audio for over a decade has gained insights and experiences of great value which might be selectively brought forwards in greater numbers. But why now? Why not after Chris has had a chance to actually use one, learn more about it, discuss in detail the device with the creators, etc... The Computer Audiophile and rando 1 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
Popular Post ted_b Posted December 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2021 3 hours ago, rando said: posited remarkable awareness inviting a sophisticated basis for discussion, examination, or relevance to personal interests? Huh?? Is it 5 o'clock where you are? 😎 He posted about a new unreleased product and said stay tuned. No one has used this product yet!!! mourip, The Computer Audiophile and rando 1 1 1 "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
rando Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 1 minute ago, ted_b said: Huh?? Is it 5 o'clock where you are? 😎 He posted about a new unreleased product and said stay tuned. No one has used this product yet!!! I felt my responses went far enough to display consumer reaction to articles that amount to reciting marketing blather. At no point did they contest lack of a review where one was not possible. I stand by what you isolated in quotation fully. So much so I'd put it as saying anyone reading my initial post was confronted with a much improved set of criteria through which to view this new product. Had Chris not resorted to blandishments and obfuscation I would've more than likely left it be at thanking him for taking the time to acknowledge reading what I had written. I'll suitably thank you for taking the time to find a positive connotation intended to disperse any negative air surrounding questions of validity. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 18, 2021 Author Share Posted December 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, rando said: felt my responses went far enough to display consumer reaction to articles that amount to reciting marketing blather. As you can see, many people here appreciate being notified that this product was released. To be honest, I believe the word blather describes your words very well. deathdisco 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 18, 2021 Author Share Posted December 18, 2021 8 hours ago, JCB said: I don't see clearly the difference with a regular MB, except the white color.. But it goes to eleven :~) AudioDoctor 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Chris, I do have some ideas for questions if you ever get a chance to ask them of the SoTM team. PCI 3? a generation old intel chips? USB 2.0? 1 CPU fan header and 1 system fan header? Is this specifically designed for a particular system they will be selling in the future? and to follow on from JCB, what does make this different from a normal motherboard other than fewer and older features? rando 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
Gavin1977 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 I just wish the buy button would work! :-) Boomboy 1 Link to comment
firedog Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 How long will it be till a vendor comes out with an audiophile server based on this board? Lots of people don't want to build a pc from scratch. Allan F 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
ednaz Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 I'm really intrigued, and look forward to hearing all kinds of details that will let me assess whether it's worth the dollars and effort to replace my current computer-based home media server. What I've got now is reasonably new, and began as a NUC. But there are now fanless cases for NUC components - you basically take everything out of the NUC, and the pieces-parts go into the new all aluminum case that's almost completely head sink kind of fins. The cases come with heat sink connection pieces for some parts, like the M.2 drives. We really appreciate the difference. No more fan noise, and if we were streaming to two or three zones, the fan in the NUC could get pretty annoying. And then... a lot of NUC (including the one we used) have a high rate of fan failure. So the upgrade to fanless was partly driven my need. I've monitored temperatures in the new case, and they're lower than in the NUC with the noisy fan, even when streaming to three zones. Link to comment
bbosler Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 On 12/17/2021 at 5:17 PM, The Computer Audiophile said: I have no idea what that means. I have no idea what most of Rando's posts mean. Is it an issue with English as a second language or an attempt to sound intelligent by constructing convoluted sentences? In any case, Me scratching my head since it sounds like yoda speak to me, most of what he posts leaves. 87mpi 1 see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
Patatorz Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 On 12/17/2021 at 9:36 PM, One and a half said: There's no support for Xeon? It's pretty much dead in the water for me then. Also wonder if a 24/7 operation has similar specs to a server class board. One good thing the only windows is the LTSC version support, of all Windows for audio, I found that OS to be the least to get in the way SQ wise. I assume it is something possible with a FW upgrade like with Supermicro : the LG 1151v2 are compatible with Xeon 2100 and 2200 series. For OS support should not be a big issue to use also some Windows server versions…i doubt that SOtM created specific components with specific drivers Blog / Forum Link to comment
R1200CL Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Very unclear what these audio parts actually are. External (optional) clock input isn’t explained at all. And no connection available. This may be the most interesting feature. If they where to build an audiophile motherboard I would like to see several options for external power input. And at least one SFP cage. No W11 support. Not sure if it’s matters. Link to comment
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