MQA is Vaporware

[lucretius]

2 hours ago, KeenObserver said:

 

Influencers, astroturfers, shills.  It is what the world is coming to now.  There are huge firms out there now who's job it is to "influence" and sell a product.  With AI now they can roam the internet posting "reviews" of products.  One computer can generate millions of "reviews".

Just think of it. A million artificial "Lee Scoggins" out there!

 

We need another bot to neutralize the artificial influencers. And while they're at it, they can also take on the Lee Scoggins on the world.

[Rt66indierock]

3 hours ago, KeenObserver said:

 

Influencers, astroturfers, shills.  It is what the world is coming to now.  There are huge firms out there now who's job it is to "influence" and sell a product.  With AI now they can roam the internet posting "reviews" of products.  One computer can generate millions of "reviews".

Just think of it. A million artificial "Lee Scoggins" out there!

 

Lee probably can create a chat bot so to make you feel better I posted this on Audio Science Review yesterday.

 

Amirm, I view what I’ve done with MQA to be education. So, I looked at site visit numbers from September using your site as comparison. Audio Science Review has more visits than all the download sites on MQA’s website combined. ASR also had more visits than HDTracks. Add a few DSD sites, ProStudio Masters and Acoustic Sounds and you get a bit over 4 times the visits to ASR in September for 10 high resolution sites. These numbers seem to indicate a lack of interest high-resolution downloads.

 

The last good numbers I have on Tidal are from 2017. They show the HiFi tier to have about 171k users. Qobuz has about 200k users in all tiers. Deezer I estimate to have a little over a million users in the CD quality tier. I don’t see any significant interest in CD quality and above streaming either.

 

So, the question is can Amazon add significant subscribers with a CD and higher quality tier? My idea of significant for their HD tier is 6 million subscribers by June 2020. And even if they get 6 million subscribers in the HD tier you would have to wonder how many came for the actual high-resolution tracks.  If Amazon HD gets 6 million subscribers, CD quality and above would have about 2% of the streaming market. Still far short of what the high-resolution market research projects the market to be.

 

Getting back to MQA I’m pleased artists, studio engineers, mastering engineers have listened and rejected MQA forcing the labels and MQA Ltd to process MQA files after they are created. One MQA ADC is still one too many but there is no end to end recording chain. MQA is just additional processing, something I prefer to do without. And finally, Amirm high-end DAC manufactures didn’t get us to go after MQA they joined me. For a simple reason the audio press can’t get at me I’m independent. I gave everybody a chance to walk away from MQA at the end of RMAF 2017 and most did. There a couple of YouTube videos of what happens when I want to make people look foolish of the final seminar of RMAF 2018. At RMAF this year there was supposed to be an MQA demonstration Saturday. It didn’t happen, I was in the audience. No war no battle just a process of educating people.

[daverich4]

17 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

And finally, Amirm high-end DAC manufactures didn’t get us to go after MQA they joined me. For a simple reason the audio press can’t get at me I’m independent. I gave everybody a chance to walk away from MQA at the end of RMAF 2017 and most did.

I assume some people on this site know who you are but I don’t. You apparently have something to do with accounting but reading the above I also get the feeling you’re some omnipotent Overlord of the music industry as well. Any chance you’d reveal who you are in real life?

[wdw]

8 hours ago, daverich4 said:

I assume some people on this site know who you are but I don’t. You apparently have something to do with accounting but reading the above I also get the feeling you’re some omnipotent Overlord of the music industry as well. Any chance you’d reveal who you are in real life?

 

Trudat...you do have swagger but the question stands and your bravado demands that this be substantiated.  

How can you state "I gave everybody a chance to walk away from MQA at the end of RMAF 2017 and most did" with a straight face unless you are truly our Overlord.

[crenca]

Overlordness is just the equal and opposite reaction to radical subjectiveness.  It's all quite natural.  Just go with it.

[wdw]

3 minutes ago, crenca said:

Overlordness is just the equal and opposite reaction to radical subjectiveness.  It's all quite natural.  Just go with it.

 

OK, that's totally crazy!

[esldude]

I'm still hoping some of those Synergistic Research Quantum products can entangle my audio system with quantum particles as they existed prior to the invention of MQA.  Then I'll listen as if it never existed in the fullness of time. 

 

That or I need to make cables that are AQM.  Authenticated Quantum-entangled Masters.  You know you have the sound of the time and place the master was created because your subjective experience will be the same as having been there.  The software interface will allow you to select time, and place (with a handy list of studios used for every single recording ever made).  Now this might seem far fetched to you, but all I've really need to do is see to it the cables have the same electrical signals as those which flowed in another time and place.  It is only in the specially prepared internals of those cables which entangle with particles of the past.  A further benefit is the signal for everyone who uses the cables means everyone's signals are authenticated as the same ensuring everyone at every place and time hears definitively the same sound.  I won't need blue lights as you'll simply feel the rightness of it in your mind when it is working. 

[Archimago]

43 minutes ago, esldude said:

I'm still hoping some of those Synergistic Research Quantum products can entangle my audio system with quantum particles as they existed prior to the invention of MQA.  Then I'll listen as if it never existed in the fullness of time. 

 

That or I need to make cables that are AQM.  Authenticated Quantum-entangled Masters.  You know you have the sound of the time and place the master was created because your subjective experience will be the same as having been there.  The software interface will allow you to select time, and place (with a handy list of studios used for every single recording ever made).  Now this might seem far fetched to you, but all I've really need to do is see to it the cables have the same electrical signals as those which flowed in another time and place.  It is only in the specially prepared internals of those cables which entangle with particles of the past.  A further benefit is the signal for everyone who uses the cables means everyone's signals are authenticated as the same ensuring everyone at every place and time hears definitively the same sound.  I won't need blue lights as you'll simply feel the rightness of it in your mind when it is working. 

 

You shouldn't be giving away ideas like that to Ted Denney III (aka "Tony Stark of the audio world"). You should be selling that idea and getting a royalty!

 

Oh well. Can't be unsaid now.

 

Just watch those ideas get incorporated into his next generation of "world reference" SRX Infinity Interconnects with Evolved UEF Folding utilizing Tuned Electro-Magneto-Quantum Active Shielding with Cylindrical Missing Link Grapheme Nano-Particle Matrix SuperActive Ground Plane protected by Blue Quantum Mono-Crystal Alloy Fuses lined by Atmospheric Electronic Circuit Transducers operating at Schumann Resonance with ULF Field Generated Active EM Ground Block SE (of course) all housed in a Carbon Fiber Tesseract. And this will be all handmade by virgins in their California factory!

 

The paradigmatic Audio Singularity is near and @esldude just gave it away to Synergistic Research for free on a forum. 😞

 

[esldude]

6 minutes ago, Archimago said:

 

You shouldn't be giving away ideas like that to Ted Denney III (aka "Tony Stark of the audio world"). You should be selling that idea and getting a royalty!

 

Oh well. Can't be unsaid now.

 

Just watch those ideas get incorporated into his next generation of "world reference" SRX Infinity Interconnects with Evolved UEF Folding utilizing Tuned Electro-Magneto-Quantum Active Shielding with Cylindrical Missing Link Grapheme Nano-Particle Matrix SuperActive Ground Plane protected by Blue Quantum Mono-Crystal Alloy Fuses lined by Atmospheric Electronic Circuit Transducers operating at Schumann Resonance with ULF Field Generated Active EM Ground Block SE (of course) all housed in a Carbon Fiber Tesseract. And this will be all handmade by virgins in their California factory!

 

The paradigmatic Audio Singularity is near and @esldude just gave it away to Synergistic Research for free on a forum. 😞

 

Well it all sounded believable until you mentioned virgins in California. 

[Ralf11]

so, maybe MQA is an escaped code segment from Operation Overlordness

[John Dyson]

Dont know if this is on subject, but saw a TV ad just now that gave me an idea about MQA strategy...   Noticed a Jaguar commercial where they mentioned "Meridian" sound?   I wonder if they (MQA) has a strategy towards automotive sound?   I don't know if this is a rhetorical question or not.  (I am offline for a few days, but wanted to bring this up for discussion before disappearing again.)

 

[mfsoa]

One meaningless MQA data point:  My nephew never went to college but is one those who mastered the computer thing in his bedroom. He has worked for a few companies and was recruited by Apple and now works there on digital audio stuff. He just started recently so I don't know what he is working on.

 

But when he was hired I did ask him what his take on MQA was.  His answer - "Never heard of it"

 

 

[KeenObserver]

18 minutes ago, mfsoa said:

One meaningless MQA data point:  My nephew never went to college but is one those who mastered the computer thing in his bedroom. He has worked for a few companies and was recruited by Apple and now works there on digital audio stuff. He just started recently so I don't know what he is working on.

 

But when he was hired I did ask him what his take on MQA was.  His answer - "Never heard of it"

 

 

 

Well, hopefully, a year or two down the line, everyone will answer the same.

[rickca]

10 hours ago, John Dyson said:

I wonder if they (MQA) has a strategy towards automotive sound?

https://www.mqa.co.uk/news/post/qnx-ces-2019

https://www.mqa.co.uk/news/post/jvckenwood-announcement

[crenca]

17 hours ago, Archimago said:

Ted Denney III (aka "Tony Stark of the audio world").

 

ROFL!  Does he die too in the end? 😋  is it too morbid to ask?  😆

[Archimago]

6 hours ago, crenca said:

 

ROFL!  Does he die too in the end? 😋  is it too morbid to ask?  😆

 

Well, we all die in the end... The question is whether one dies as a hero. 😎

 

As for the quote about Denney = Iron Man. It came from here:

https://www.synergisticresearch.com/isolation/accessories/ect/

 

See Raymond's review at the bottom!

 

[yahooboy]

23 hours ago, rickca said:

https://www.mqa.co.uk/news/post/qnx-ces-2019

https://www.mqa.co.uk/news/post/jvckenwood-announcement

Sad,

Had just ordered a Kenwood receiver, which is now cancelled.

 

Have to start looking for another

[yahooboy]

1 hour ago, yahooboy said:

Sad,

Had just ordered a Kenwood receiver, which is now cancelled.

 

Have to start looking for another

Anyone having a recommendation for a car receiver ? 1DIN

[Rt66indierock]

On 10/17/2019 at 11:42 AM, daverich4 said:

I assume some people on this site know who you are but I don’t. You apparently have something to do with accounting but reading the above I also get the feeling you’re some omnipotent Overlord of the music industry as well. Any chance you’d reveal who you are in real life?

Sorry busy growing new audio journalists.

[Ralf11]

hey - is that Dolly the sheep?

[Ralf11]

1 hour ago, yahooboy said:

Anyone having a recommendation for a car receiver ? 1DIN

 

there is a real nice one for $1,500 - needs a sep. amp

 

- good to start a new thread on this

[FredericV]

On 10/18/2019 at 11:44 PM, rickca said:

https://www.mqa.co.uk/news/post/qnx-ces-2019

https://www.mqa.co.uk/news/post/jvckenwood-announcement

With the background noise in most cars, it's completely pointless to implement 17/96 (MQA's internal max resolution) or even real hi-res. There's also no point in 24 bit given the in car background noise.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/interior-noise

At 120 kmh which is a legal cruise speed in many euro countries, it's around 60dB in the most quiet car, according to:

https://www.auto-decibel-db.com/Lexus_LS_2013_600h.html

Also note that most car infotainment systems mix several sound sources:

- car audio playing
- GPS sounds / alerts & vocal notifications
- handsfree voice recognition  "like call person X" and then the infotainment confirms via speech synthesis
- and in some performance cars, fake engine noises are created to make the engine sound like a bigger car

So we are talking about infotainment systems mixing several digital sources and probably also resampling steps as the sources to be mixed may not have the same samplerate.

How would that even be compatible with MQA?

[The Computer Audiophile]

50 minutes ago, FredericV said:

How would that even be compatible with MQA?

It’s compatible with the royalty payments. 

[rickca]

4 hours ago, FredericV said:

How would that even be compatible with MQA?

Ask the guys who bought into the story.  I just posted the relevant press releases because you asked whether MQA had an automotive strategy.

[daverich4]

18 hours ago, Rt66indierock said:

Sorry busy growing new audio journalists.

 

That's who you are in real life?