ISO Regen performance Improvement Cheap!

[logicsound]

2 minutes ago, tmtomh said:

 

Hey, don't take my word for it. I have no dog in this hunt. Do - or at least try to do - whatever you want. Have fun.

Nice retreat legal beagle

[Audiophile Neuroscience]

5 minutes ago, tmtomh said:

 

If you have an attorney, and if they are telling you that the site hosting the discussion forum can successfully be sued for what members of the forum say on it, then you might want to consider consulting with another attorney.

 

If you were to sue CA for "allowing slander," it wouldn't be a question of whether or not you'd win. The only questions would be whether you'd lose via dismissal of the claim, or whether you'd lose by a judge's ruling prior to a jury trial - and whether or not you'd merely lose, or lose and be forced to pay CA's legal fees as well.

 

Also worth noting that your attorney would get their hourly billables regardless of what happened.

 

I would just add "allegedly" allowing slander.

 

Also the "concealed threats of violence" is simply misconstrued. If this relates to @elcorso post, the worst you could sue him for is his taste in humour, which I happen to share!

[tmtomh]

Just now, logicsound said:

Nice retreat legal beagle

 

You're so amped up and ready to fight with folks that you've mistaken me for someone who's trying to win an argument with you. I honestly don't care if you file a lawsuit or not (except for the needless anguish and expense @The Computer Audiophile would incur). So insult me all you want - not only do I not care, but it's totally beside the point.

[logicsound]

Legal maven, haven't you noticed the plethora of privacy notices from all kinds of websites..so far absent from CA...about privacy notices?  Huh?????? You think that was coincidental?

[logicsound]

2 minutes ago, Audiophile Neuroscience said:

 

I would just add "allegedly" allowing slander.

 

Also the "concealed threats of violence" is simply misconstrued. If this relates to @elcorso post, the worst you could sue him for is his taste in humour, which I happen to share!

I'm not suing any one - but really you are going to argue that kind of post is appropriate in an audio forum?

 

Get real chap

[charlesphoto]

1 minute ago, logicsound said:

Legal maven, haven't you noticed the plethora of privacy notices from all kinds of websites..so far absent from CA...about privacy notices?  Huh?????? You think that was coincidental?

 

You know, you could just go somewhere else where they have your coveted EULA.

 

Now, any other reports on Supra 8 as DC cable? 

[Audiophile Neuroscience]

8 minutes ago, logicsound said:

Trust me Zuckerberg's ass is pucked!

https://www.fastcompany.com/40577794/google-and-facebook-are-already-accused-of-breaking-gdpr-laws

 

CC started a post on GDPR. Maybe post relevant thoughts there.

[logicsound]

4 minutes ago, tmtomh said:

 

You're so amped up and ready to fight with folks that you've mistaken me for someone who's trying to win an argument with you. I honestly don't care if you file a lawsuit or not (except for the needless anguish and expense @The Computer Audiophile would incur). So insult me all you want - not only do I not care, but it's totally beside the point.

OK if you say so?

[The Computer Audiophile]

4 minutes ago, logicsound said:

Legal maven, haven't you noticed the plethora of privacy notices from all kinds of websites..so far absent from CA...about privacy notices?  Huh?????? You think that was coincidental?

You clearly don’t understand anything about GDPR. 

 

If if you want to be a part of this community you need to stop personal attacks. 

[logicsound]

1 minute ago, charlesphoto said:

 

You know, you could just go somewhere else where they have your coveted EULA.

 

Now, any other reports on Supra 8 as DC cable? 

Well yes I have improved the PoE DC greatly - but not with using Supra CAT 8 - that was a backward regression.☺️

[logicsound]

2 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

You clearly don’t understand anything about GDPR. 

 

If if you want to be a part of this community you need to stop personal attacks. 

How is that personal?  It's about new EU regs...you are twisting things my 'friend'.

 

You allow all kind of real personal attacks...at your risk

 

 

[logicsound]

You disgusting folks can accept gun violence and the recent events as perfectly OK to joke about - but I find it abhorrent for an audio site.

 

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

6 minutes ago, logicsound said:

You disgusting folks can accept gun violence and the recent events as perfectly OK to joke about - but I find it abhorrent for an audio site.

 

 

You have no idea what people can accept based on a couple forum posts. 

 

All humor comes from pain. 

 

P.S. “You disgusting folks” is again a personal attack. One more and your done here. 

[Audiophile Neuroscience]

17 minutes ago, logicsound said:

You disgusting folks can accept gun violence and the recent events as perfectly OK to joke about - but I find it abhorrent for an audio site.

 

 

Time for a cup of tea and regroup.

 

Nobody has said anything about the acceptance of gun violence. As @elcorso pointed out it was irony, obviously lost on you, and he is against gun violence. Edit: so am I. So chill, we agree on this point.

[logicsound]

22 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

You have no idea what people can accept based on a couple forum posts. 

 

All humor comes from pain. 

 

P.S. “You disgusting folks” is again a personal attack. One more and your done here. 

Like my long time friend wushuliu.  I will be terminating my CA membership in protest of the callus disregard to the recent gun violence in a Indiana High School.   This is quite shocking to me as an audiophile.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indiana-shooting/suspect-wounds-teacher-fellow-student-in-23rd-school-shooting-in-2018-idUSKCN1IR07U

God help you all!

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

6 minutes ago, logicsound said:

Like my long time friend wushuliu.  I will be terminating my CA membership in protest of the callus disregard to the recent gun violence in a Indiana High School.   This is quite shocking to me as an audiophile.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indiana-shooting/suspect-wounds-teacher-fellow-student-in-23rd-school-shooting-in-2018-idUSKCN1IR07U

God help you all!

 

Bye.

[austinpop]

Recent postings have only reinforced the need for good grounding in audio.  

[AnotherSpin]

Logicsound left? What a pity, I was waiting for his story about his personal PoE tweak to which Supra Cat 8 is a regression....(((

[mansr]

5 hours ago, austinpop said:

Recent postings have only reinforced the need for good grounding in audio.  

And low-noise regulators.

[sligolad]

Wow blink for a day here and all hell breaks loose....hope we are back on track here now and can focus on the OP.

I finally got the Supra CAT 8 (1 metre) and after inserting it into the POE's between Paul Hynes 5v and the ISO Regen it sounds better to me out of the box compared to the IBRA.

Note that I have bridged the pins in the POE's to provide 2 pairs twinned for both V+ & V- (1-4 bridged and 5-8 bridged).

No use of the outer screen so just the 4 pairs in use and sounds very good so far.

Still waiting on the German cable to test German CAT8

[Monge]

2 hours ago, sligolad said:

Wow blink for a day here and all hell breaks loose....hope we are back on track here now and can focus on the OP.

I finally got the Supra CAT 8 (1 metre) and after inserting it into the POE's between Paul Hynes 5v and the ISO Regen it sounds better to me out of the box compared to the IBRA.

Note that I have bridged the pins in the POE's to provide 2 pairs twinned for both V+ & V- (1-4 bridged and 5-8 bridged).

No use of the outer screen so just the 4 pairs in use and sounds very good so far.

Still waiting on the German cable to test German CAT8

Thanks for getting back on track ?

Makes me wondering if the the passive POE injektor and splitter adapter get the cat 7 or cat 8 Cable shielding flowing In some way, when using POE with shielded cat 7 or cat 8?

Not In your case of course. But with shielded cat7 pr cat8.

Regards Monge

[sligolad]

The passive POE do not have any connection to the outer shielding so they just handle the 4 pairs inside the cable.

The good thing I like about the POE connectors is that I can easily swap in and out different CAT cables to see if there is any difference.

 

So far the higher grade CAT8 cable in my system seems to provide better improvements in sound, and most benefit still seems to come between power source and ISO Regen.

 

I have not tried any of the outer shielding tweaks others have tried yet so cannot comment on these.

From my side i am just focused on a change that can easily be put in place my the majority of not tweakers to give a big improvement in the sound using the ISO Regen.

 

It is good to see all the other testing going on and being posted here with different cables and configurations of pairs, with connectors and with shielding but I am guessing the returns on these are much smaller than just adding the CAT cable with POE ends just to get started.

 

Still amazes me the improvement I have achieved just by adding the CAT7 & CAT8 cables in the DC Lines.

[paulkouhan]

I have some supra CAT8 bulk meters that should arrive in the next days !

[Quadman]

Yes, the PoE change was nothing short of jaw dropping.  Well my LT3045 boards showed up Thursday and Friday I put together 2 new PSU's to replace my dual DIYinHK PSU that powered my regen and SSD.  I made a new S11 PSU at 7V and a Belleson based PSU at 7.5V.  I put together 2 LT3045 based step down PSU' to connect with a 6V board going to a 5V LT3045 in series.  So I put these boards after my new S11 PSU at 7V which steps down to 6V then 5V with the 3045's, this powers my PC's OS intel SLC SSD.  The belleson PSU now powers the regen located at my PC with no step down board yet.  Another S11 PSU at 7V powers my Isoregen at the dac with another 3045 based step down (6V to 5V) so 5V powers my IR which now bypasses the TI LDO regulators inside the IR and according to Rob further increases the sound of the IR.

 

My custom made PoE's (see photo's of on P4 of this thread) and 1m runs of uGreen cat 7 cable now connect between the LPSU's and my 3 devices.  So, S11 PSU> Custom PoE/Cat 7> LT3045 step down boards> Device.  Step down boards connect to SSD and IR.  Before the new PSU's I had been running the custom PoE with ugreen cat 7 between PSU and devices.

 

Friday night I spent 7 hours listening, until 3AM.  Dang another nice step forward, my first obvious impression of the new step-downs was the bass, wow.  Even faster, more dynamic more transparent.  Harmonic overtones of low bass strings were so obvious so there.  Then as the night progressed and the new PSU's caps begin to settle some and I played a wider range of familiar music.  Like the first experience with PoE's the sound was wider, deeper more transparent with images more palpable more there, more real, solid.  I almost couldn't believe the level of sound I was now hearing.  Having just returned from MN and hearing my buddies $500k all analog based system that was just re-set up by someone considered to be a expert.  My sound was way more transparent, had more speed, and much more dynamics.  Due to listening room differences my geometry of stage is not as large as his but to scale to my smaller room my depth and width of stage are his equal.  My sound is so lifelike, every change to this DC power chain has provided more life more pleasure and enjoyment of sound it just keeps progressing forward.  I couldn't be happier.  

 

My supra cat 8 cable has been here over a week, but I made the decision to wait for the new power boards to be installed before I would even attempt adding the cat 8.  I will let my ears settle on this new wonderful sound for the next week and next weekend I will drop the cat 8 into this chain removing the PoE and direct wiring between the PSU's and devices with this wire, 2 pairs + and 2 pairs - .  Ears have to settle and brain needs to adjust to new sound before I attempt another change. I have to know what each step does before forging forward.  Times in digital are so exciting now.                                             

[AnotherSpin]

Does anybody compared Supra Cat 7 with Supra Cat 8? My tweaked connection between original cheap PSU and regen is done with Cat 7 and result is beyond any expectation. But, just because of this certain well known itch I am curious whether I should put some efffort into Cat 8?