ISO Regen performance Improvement Cheap!

[charlesphoto]

I also tried just one twisted pair vs quad, and felt the quad was better, with a stronger presence. Will be interesting to hear from others on what they’ve tried - the great thing is it’s cheap and easy tweak to experiment with (as long as one wires correctly). 

[Quadman]

Well said @charlesphoto

[mansr]

2 minutes ago, Quadman said:

There are articles on the web discussing sending DC over PoE magnetic transformers they are designed to do so.  I just have not had the time to research more and figure out are these PoE certified magnetic transformers.  If not then you are correct, if they are then it should be doable off the center taps on the network side.

To send DC power you need access to the cable side of the transformer. The connectors you mentioned don't seem to provide this.

[SuperRoo]

31 minutes ago, charlesphoto said:

I also tried just one twisted pair vs quad, and felt the quad was better, with a stronger presence. Will be interesting to hear from others on what they’ve tried - the great thing is it’s cheap and easy tweak to experiment with (as long as one wires correctly). 

I felt the same way. I liked the quad better than my cheapo attempt.

[jamesg11]

Observing ... waiting for the convergence of agreement - then buy from ghent, when he gets on board!

[Quadman]

2 hours ago, mansr said:

To send DC power you need access to the cable side of the transformer

Yea your probably right

[charlesphoto]

Oh man, it just keeps getting better. Along with the XLR to 2.1 I made for between the HDPLEX and NUC, I made a GX-16 to 2.1 out of the Monoprice Cat7 I’d already stripped for between the HDPLEX and the OWC HDD that contains my local files for streaming and is connected to the NUC. The music is getting spooky it’s so real sounding. Of course it does show up areas for improvement in the analog part of my gear, but that’s for another thread/forum, and will cost more than a few dollars worth of cables and connectors! For now, going to let the whole shebang burn in and will report back in a few days to see if any change(s). Unreal how good this tweak is, for so little money. 

[charlesphoto]

2 hours ago, jamesg11 said:

Observing ... waiting for the convergence of agreement - then buy from ghent, when he gets on board!

 

Good idea. I’m a little nervous considering how many people have run out and bought Supra 8 now. Hope it’s not just me and my system that hears the change, but I’ve been working and tweaking on it long enough to know that it isn’t and that cable is doing something very special. 

[AnotherSpin]

Now I have Supra Cat 7 between PSU and regen in very simple audio system (mac mini, external drives, usb dac, active speakers) and it works for me very well. Which other power or signal connections would benefit with CAT? Thank you.

[simonp]

I will try this too. But how about no cable between a lt3045 and the iso regen 

[simonp]

Next week I will be able to test it.

[Cornan]

Finally I got the time to try the Supra Cat 8 out. Due to limited time to do this experiment I selected a spot where it should be very audible plus not too time consuming to perform. Between LPS-1.2 and BueWave’s galvanicly isolated Spdif output where a Canare 4S6 without JSSG is at work.

 

Here is some pictures that shows what I did.

 

 

The Spdif input and the LPS-1.2 have Kemet A750 (25v/560uF). The LPS-1.2 have series HPULNs (3A LT3045) with Kemet A750 at input of LPS-1.2 and Panasonic FC type A (25v/560uF) at output of the Gophert cup-3205II feeding the LPS-1.2.

 

So I had a first listen. No Wow! but definitely no Meh! either. It definately changed the sound a bit. Nice but a bit hollow, a touch of sibilance to the sound and sound image depth and width decreased a bit. Not as natural sounding. Firmer low end bass notes and midrange seems more attenuated (in a good way). Improved focus. 

I am not too worried though. I’ll guess it will improve with some burn-in as others have reported so I would’nt take these initial reports of mine for granted. The additional caps might also be responsible for these results. So far the Canare 4S6 is the winner here with a more natural, airy and full body sound, but I will report back later when I have spent some hours on the Supra Cat 8. Unfortunately I am going away tomorrow to Stockholm so that report will have to wait until Friday.

 

 

 

 

 

[Cornan]

Interesting! The sound have changed quite a bit during the last 40 minutes of constant music listening. The sibilance and hollowness is now all gone. The heights have turned more sweet. I wonder if this is due to my aluminum Polymer caps needed to get charged?  In any case it is already leaning towards the Supra Cat 8 with JSSG now. It surely sounds better than Canare 4S6 with additional details revealed. Great stuff worth to investigate further! ???

[Cornan]

I also noticed another thing. My LPS-1.2 was blinking red, yellow and green suddenly. Twisting the Cat 8 cable made it stop so I suppose that the contact is not 100% great on my Cat 8 cable. Could be a reason to my initial result. I will redo my cable again next week when there is no rush and I have more time to make it perfect! ?

[lmitche]

Hey, has anyone tried the Supra Cat 8 as a network cable compared to say a BJC Cat 6a?

 

[austinpop]

30 minutes ago, lmitche said:

Hey, has anyone tried the Supra Cat 8 as a network cable compared to say a BJC Cat 6a?

 

 

Me, Larry.

 

I like the Supra better. I find the Supra to be a very smooth and pleasing sounding.

[lmitche]

1 hour ago, austinpop said:

 

Me, Larry.

 

I like the Supra better. I find the Supra to be a very smooth and pleasing sounding.

Good news, now I have to find my Ethernet cable crimper.

[Bricki]

I have changed all Ethernet cables in my network to supra 8 and it is significantly better than the audioquest pearl that it replaced....the improvements are there when you first plug in the supra cat8 but it does seem to take a long time to burn them in... Almost 2 weeks until it settles down and there seems to be an increase in trebble sweetness, depth/layering and more of a naturally rounded sound towards the end of burn in.

[lmitche]

7 hours ago, Bricki said:

I have changed all Ethernet cables in my network to supra 8 and it is significantly better than the audioquest pearl that it replaced....the improvements are there when you first plug in the supra cat8 but it does seem to take a long time to burn them in... Almost 2 weeks until it settles down and there seems to be an increase in trebble sweetness, depth/layering and more of a naturally rounded sound towards the end of burn in.

Wow, thanks for the motivation!

[Monge]

+1 on the Supra Cat8 as ethernetcable. 

I prefer the Supra cat8 over AudioQuest Cinnamon, which I had on loan. 

Also I think, that the Supra cat8 is better sounding than the Supra Cat7+, which I also own.

I use Supra Cat8 In ny network as Well.

Regards Monge

[wushuliu]

Since I guess we are now talking about actual ethernet use.

re: Supra RJ45 connectors on ebay (US)

 

Yes! We are currently out of stock - but a shipment from Sweden is due here any day now, The item will be listed on ebay by the end of the week.

[AnotherSpin]

Is it possible to use Supra Cat 8 for powering active speaker with power consumption (max) - 94W? Thank you.

[seeteeyou]

Just an FYI - for some reasons replacing the original (i.e. CAT 8) Supra RJ45 plugs with Telegärtner MFP8 (i.e. CAT 6A) turned out to sound better for actual Ethernet use

 

http://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=107983

 

Not sure if any brave souls were willing to test Wireworld CAT 8 plugs @ 20 bucks a pop

 

http://www.soundhelpers.com/PROD/RJ45STE.html

https://store.wireworldcable.com/products/rj45-plug-for-starlight-cat8-ethernet

https://www.amazon.com/WIREWORLD-Cat-Ethernet-Plug-RJ45/dp/B01M0V6CUE

 

BTW, they're also selling other CAT 8 cables by the foot @ $4.5 / $18 / $180 respectively

 

http://www.soundhelpers.com/PROD/CHEF000.html

http://www.soundhelpers.com/PROD/STEF000.html

http://www.soundhelpers.com/PROD/PSEF000.html

[Monge]

2 hours ago, seeteeyou said:

Just an FYI - for some reasons replacing the original (i.e. CAT 8) Supra RJ45 plugs with Telegärtner MFP8 (i.e. CAT 6A) turned out to sound better for actual Ethernet use

 

http://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=107983

 

Not sure if any brave souls were willing to test Wireworld CAT 8 plugs @ 20 bucks a pop

 

http://www.soundhelpers.com/PROD/RJ45STE.html

https://store.wireworldcable.com/products/rj45-plug-for-starlight-cat8-ethernet

https://www.amazon.com/WIREWORLD-Cat-Ethernet-Plug-RJ45/dp/B01M0V6CUE

 

BTW, they're also selling other CAT 8 cables by the foot @ $4.5 / $18 / $180 respectively

 

http://www.soundhelpers.com/PROD/CHEF000.html

http://www.soundhelpers.com/PROD/STEF000.html

http://www.soundhelpers.com/PROD/PSEF000.html

Thanks for the links.

The Telegärtner MFP8 were the connector used on the AudioQuest Vodka Lan cable.

If you are In the EU and you don’t want to make it by yourself you can buy it at futureshop.co.uk with the Telegärtner MFP8.

I don’t know which connectors is the better ones though.

 

[lmitche]

Funny the telegartner and a certain belden plug look the same.