Ralf11 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 There are lots of math tricks used - NSA employs many PhD mathematicians. or should I have said "many, many" Link to comment
mansr Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: There are lots of math tricks used - NSA employs many PhD mathematicians. or should I have said "many, many" A useful attack on RSA would have severe implications. Link to comment
botrytis Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 36 minutes ago, mansr said: Anything more efficient than brute force? Quantum computing isn't anywhere close to being useful. There are several algorithms that seem to be useful, yes. I am not a math geek, just a biochemist (or frustrated bartender ). Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
mansr Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, botrytis said: There are several algorithms that seem to be useful, yes. References, please. Link to comment
Hugo9000 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 On 8/16/2019 at 3:36 PM, The Computer Audiophile said: Just finished Neil’s book. Tons to discuss September 9, 2019, the publication date. It's now the 10th. What happened, or is the discussion in an area regular members don't have access to? Or am I blind? lol 请教别人一次是5分钟的傻子，从不请教别人是一辈子的傻子 Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 why not send a FOIA Request to the NSA for the algorithms and ways to parse things, then crack... Link to comment
botrytis Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, mansr said: References, please. https://medium.com/@jonathan_hui/qc-cracking-rsa-with-shors-algorithm-bc22cb7b7767 Then there is the recovery of RSA keys - https://thehackernews.com/2017/10/rsa-encryption-keys.html Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
mansr Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, botrytis said: https://medium.com/@jonathan_hui/qc-cracking-rsa-with-shors-algorithm-bc22cb7b7767 That seems to require a quantum computer that doesn't exist. Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted September 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2019 53 minutes ago, Hugo9000 said: It's now the 10th. What happened, or is the discussion in an area regular members don't have access to? Or am I blind? lol I wanted to do it right, so I took my time. Here you go. Teresa, asdf1000, Ran and 1 other 2 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Hugo9000 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I wanted to do it right, so I took my time. Here you go. Thanks! I was starting to wonder if the release date had been pushed back! Going to read your review now! The Computer Audiophile 1 请教别人一次是5分钟的傻子，从不请教别人是一辈子的傻子 Link to comment
rickca Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Good synopsis, thanks! The Computer Audiophile 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
botrytis Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, mansr said: That seems to require a quantum computer that doesn't exist. No just a fast PC - like the new Ryzen with the expensive GPU that can be used for calculations Ran 1 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
mansr Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, botrytis said: No just a fast PC - like the new Ryzen with the expensive GPU that can be used for calculations Are you seriously suggesting that there exists a practical attack on RSA with a key length of 2048 bits or more? On a PC at that. You're either mistaken or trolling. Link to comment
botrytis Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 59 minutes ago, mansr said: Are you seriously suggesting that there exists a practical attack on RSA with a key length of 2048 bits or more? On a PC at that. You're either mistaken or trolling. I really don't know how to troll - seriously. It is basic brute force. I joke yes, troll no. Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
Jud Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, botrytis said: I really don't know how to troll - seriously. It is basic brute force. I joke yes, troll no. Then mistaken or making an obscure joke. The entire point of Shor’s algorithm is that it's mathematically proven to offer a speedup on a quantum vs. regular computer. Current estimates I've seen put cracking by brute force somewhere in the 2030 time frame, and I don't know whether that's dependent on quantum computing having become practical by then. Far better possibilities are improved algorithms (that can be run effectively on non-quantum computers), or exploring vulnerabilities in badly constructed keys or key pairs. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Popular Post esldude Posted September 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2019 I think the smart fellows at the NSA are probably trying to crack the Alex theorem. That hardware cues are in bit identical files. Imagine the fingerprinting of machinery that would be possible. That is also why anyone who finds a solution to this will never be allowed to release it to the consumer world. Which means we'll forever be in the dark and unable to get the same sound from spinning HD, SSD, memory stick or RAM. Tis' a pity. kumakuma, lucretius, mansr and 1 other 4 And always keep in mind: Cognitive biases, like seeing optical illusions are a sign of a normally functioning brain. We all have them, it’s nothing to be ashamed about, but it is something that affects our objective evaluation of reality. Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted September 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2019 13 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I wanted to do it right, so I took my time. Here you go. Interesting anecdote about the reaction to a photo of a circuit board. Nothing I've published regarding MQA has received any response at all. Should I be jealous? MikeyFresh, Ralf11 and Kyhl 1 1 1 Link to comment
FredericV Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, mansr said: Interesting anecdote about the reaction to a photo of a circuit board. Nothing I've published regarding MQA has received any response at all. Should I be jealous? They did not even try to attack your MQA toolshttps://code.videolan.org/mansr/mqa Designer of the 432 EVO music server and Linux specialist Discoverer of the independent open source sox based mqa playback method with optional one cycle postringing. Link to comment
mansr Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, FredericV said: They did not even try to attack your MQA toolshttps://code.videolan.org/mansr/mqa Not at all. J-B of Videolan says "This is boring, please make it more visible." Link to comment
Cebolla Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, mansr said: Not at all. J-B of Videolan says "This is boring, please make it more visible." How - as a VLC add-on, perhaps? We are far more united and have far more in common with each other than things that divide us. -- Jo Cox Link to comment
Rt66indierock Posted September 11, 2019 Author Share Posted September 11, 2019 10 hours ago, mansr said: Interesting anecdote about the reaction to a photo of a circuit board. Nothing I've published regarding MQA has received any response at all. Should I be jealous? I don't think you should be jealous. Any contact about anything you and I published about MQA would be seen as weakness on their part. Looking back at the timeline of MQA up til the posting of MQA is Vaporware, I am left wondering if Bob Stuart used Neil Young to get his funding for MQA. But I just got Neil's book today. Link to comment
esldude Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said: I don't think you should be jealous. Any contact about anything you and I published about MQA would be seen as weakness on their part. Looking back at the timeline of MQA up til the posting of MQA is Vaporware, I am left wondering if Bob Stuart used Neil Young to get his funding for MQA. But I just got Neil's book today. The same thought on MQA came to mind reading Chris' review of Neil's book. Maybe Stuart had it in mind, and the money from Mr. Young was how he started to put it in practice. It fits with why it wasn't ready and everything else. Sure would be ironic if Neil caused inadvertently for MQA to be finally born. opus101 1 And always keep in mind: Cognitive biases, like seeing optical illusions are a sign of a normally functioning brain. We all have them, it’s nothing to be ashamed about, but it is something that affects our objective evaluation of reality. Link to comment
KeenObserver Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Hopefully MQA will go the route of Pono. esldude 1 Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 New Walkman with MQA. The writer believes it’s a good thing. https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2019/09/09/sony-streaming-walkman/ Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Rt66indierock Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: New Walkman with MQA. The writer believes it’s a good thing. https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2019/09/09/sony-streaming-walkman/ Why would anyone pay $900 to listen to C Pop? Link to comment
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