MQA is Vaporware

[mansr]

2 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

But I may have rattled the Mytek guy by asking about NDA's and their ADC.

My understanding is that it's just an inverse "renderer." As if that were desirable.

[Rt66indierock]

1 hour ago, daverich4 said:

 

I have no idea what you’re blathering on about. I didn’t find out about Tidal from Stereophile or TAS. I do find out about other things from them, mostly suggested music to listen to but sometimes equipment. No sheep involved. 

 

www.dailyaudiophile.com

 

[esldude]

34 minutes ago, lucretius said:

 

Well maybe MQA will prevent smear attacks.

Wouldn't that be prevent blur attacks?  You have to admit goal scoring is a temporally dependent phenomena.  

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

41 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

 

When I heard the rumor I said sounds like an own goal. But I may have rattled the Mytek guy by asking about NDA's and their ADC.

An MQA ADC...LOL!!!

[Rt66indierock]

10 minutes ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

An MQA ADC...LOL!!!

 

Its a lonely ADC all by itself. 

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

29 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

 

Its a lonely ADC all by itself. 

Great. So recording and mastering engineers can track at 15 bits/ 96 Khz at best, with tons of aliasing and crappy filters, or archive master tapes as such...instead of pure 24/192 or DSD. Great!!! Sign me up!😎

[esldude]

26 minutes ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

Great. So recording and mastering engineers can track at 15 bits/ 96 Khz at best, with tons of aliasing and crappy filters, or archive master tapes as such...instead of pure 24/192 or DSD. Great!!! Sign me up!😎

Oh come on now.  15 bits is more audible.  With 24 bits too much sound falls into too deep a hole and isn't heard.  The aliasing just fills in the somewhat silent parts and is masked in the loud parts. 

[Paul R]

1 hour ago, esldude said:

Oh come on now.  15 bits is more audible.  With 24 bits too much sound falls into too deep a hole and isn't heard.  The aliasing just fills in the somewhat silent parts and is masked in the loud parts. 

Eh, correct me if .i am wrong, but 16bits is about 20% above the noise level of most equipment, and 24 bits is about 20% below the noise level? 

[tmtomh]

41 minutes ago, Paul R said:

Eh, correct me if .i am wrong, but 16bits is about 20% above the noise level of most equipment, and 24 bits is about 20% below the noise level? 

 

You are wrong.

[Paul R]

26 minutes ago, tmtomh said:

 

You are wrong.

 

That's okay -  but you are now invited to provide the correct information.  I would expect the extra 48db of lower noise floor means the limiting noise floor would be the analog devices - i.e. the mic and pre-amplifier. Also, modern converters are only using about 20-22db of the 24bits. 

 

 

 

 

[esldude]

1 hour ago, Paul R said:

Eh, correct me if .i am wrong, but 16bits is about 20% above the noise level of most equipment, and 24 bits is about 20% below the noise level? 

Well, I wasn't being serious.  

 

OTOH, you are wrong.  I don't know what the noise level of most equipment is.  But if 16 bits is 20% above, 24 bits isn't 20% below.  

 

20% is only about 1.58 db.  

 

Now percent db doesn't really make sense if you meant most equipment is 20 bit capable and 16 bit is 4 bits higher with 24 bits being 4 bits lower.  Nor do I think most equipment is 20 bit capable in terms of SNR or dynamic range. 

[Paul R]

1 minute ago, esldude said:

Well, I wasn't being serious.  

 

OTOH, you are wrong.  I don't know what the noise level of most equipment is.  But if 16 bits is 20% above, 24 bits isn't 20% below.  

 

20% is only about 1.58 db.  

 

Now percent db doesn't really make sense if you meant most equipment is 20 bit capable and 16 bit is 4 bits higher with 24 bits being 4 bits lower.  Nor do I think most equipment is 20 bit capable in terms of SNR or dynamic range. 

 

Gads, silly me.  Change the dang "%" to "db".  Sorry, I proofread that but I must have had a brain misfire. 

 

-Paul 

 

[Rt66indierock]

On 6/18/2019 at 12:07 PM, daverich4 said:

 

I have no idea what you’re blathering on about. I didn’t find out about Tidal from Stereophile or TAS. I do find out about other things from them, mostly suggested music to listen to but sometimes equipment. No sheep involved. 

 

Dave here are a couple of pictures of the audio press at t.h.e. Show in Long Beach recently courtesy of Eric Franklin Shook of the Part-Time Audiophile and some sheep in Oregon just before they got a treat.  The press got booze, the sheep clover notice the similar herding.

[lucretius]

12 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

 

Is that Lasagna (i.e. Lavorgna) in the back?

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

23 minutes ago, lucretius said:

 

Is that Lasagna (i.e. Lavorgna) in the back?

Common thread...grizzled, jelly bellies, and a distinct musk of hipster No. 5. 

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

28 minutes ago, lucretius said:

 

Is that Lasagna (i.e. Lavorgna) in the back?

You might find this amusing....posted today by Lavorgna:

 

"...Computer audio is dead and streaming has killed it. Of course there are still people interested in music storage, disc-ripping, and high-res downloads but these people are part of a demographic—Age. Seeing as I’ve been getting AARP literature for coming up on a decade, I speak as a member. Hell, I’m old enough to remember when being able to quote something was impressive."

[The Computer Audiophile]

27 minutes ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

You might find this amusing....posted today by Lavorgna:

 

"...Computer audio is dead and streaming has killed it. Of course there are still people interested in music storage, disc-ripping, and high-res downloads but these people are part of a demographic—Age. Seeing as I’ve been getting AARP literature for coming up on a decade, I speak as a member. Hell, I’m old enough to remember when being able to quote something was impressive."

Would love to see someone stream without a computer (on either end of the stream). It just so happens most of the first world has a pocket sized computer that makes phone calls and plays music. 

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

2 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Would love to see someone stream without a computer (on either end of the stream). It just so happens most of the first world has a pocket sized computer that makes phone calls and plays music. 

Lavorgna spends his time making big proclamations every week. Really kinda comical. 

[MikeyFresh]

42 minutes ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

Lavorgna spends his time making big proclamations every week. Really kinda comical.

 

Is there some sort of hard-set rule about streaming and music storage/ripping/downloads being mutually exclusive?

 

I must have missed the memo on that directive... or is that Tidal/MQA propaganda as distributed through the media?

 

After all, the labels should be willing to distribute music through all viable channels, in the best interest of the artist/content creators, right?

[daverich4]

11 hours ago, Rt66indierock said:

 

Dave here are a couple of pictures of the audio press at t.h.e. Show in Long Beach recently courtesy of Eric Franklin Shook of the Part-Time Audiophile and some sheep in Oregon just before they got a treat.  The press got booze, the sheep clover notice the similar herding.

 

You post some pictures of members of the audio press at an industry get together and pictures of some sheep and somehow there’s a connection? You keep presenting yourself here as some kind of “industry insider” so I suspect this is mostly a case of you being cheesed you weren’t invited. 

[Shadders]

12 hours ago, Rt66indierock said:

Dave here are a couple of pictures of the audio press at t.h.e. Show in Long Beach recently

They do all look old, scruffy, and lardy.

[daverich4]

1 hour ago, Shadders said:

They do all look old, scruffy, and lardy.

 

Well, so do I so there's that. 😊

[rando]

The combined efforts at stereotyping lacked originality.  Or so I've gathered.

 

One normally easily applied and taken off element in there conjured a ridiculously funny image.  An unexpectedly skillful punchline right at the end relevant to MQA over the personal insults.  Almost as bad as Pan-el speaker fishing in Chris' thread.  

[Rt66indierock]

5 hours ago, daverich4 said:

 

You post some pictures of members of the audio press at an industry get together and pictures of some sheep and somehow there’s a connection? You keep presenting yourself here as some kind of “industry insider” so I suspect this is mostly a case of you being cheesed you weren’t invited. 

 

You have it backwards the press wasn't invited where I was.

[Rt66indierock]

Getting this back on topic, MQA Ltd is looking for a Digital Marketing Manger and are willing to pay up to $44,000 per year. Duties include include working with whichever  MQA streaming services and  MQA download stores are still operating when you come on board. And management of the MQA website so that it gets more traffic than this thread.