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  1. Why are there debates if "bits are bits"? Can you hear a difference in streaming audio software? Bits are Bits! Foobar2000 was lighter on its feet, more accurate tone/timbre, quieter, and had better timing of decays. There are a delicacy and precision about its sound. JRiver had a “fatter” sound with more bleeding edges and smeared textures. It sounded flatter (by a good margin) and more veiled in a thicker, unnatural warmth.
  2. We've just posted early builds of JRiver Media Center 25 for Windows and Mac on our forum. If you purchased JRiver in 2019, you received an MC25 license that works with both. Installation instructions. Thanks for the support.
  3. This is a pictorial comparison of Windows audio players, including screen views, unique features, and support environment. It is by no means complete but should give you a general idea of what the different audio players look like, some unique features, and a snap of their support forums. The audio players include HQPlayer (mainly the Client), Roon, Audirvana Plus for Windows, and JRiver Media Center. (It is a pdf document.) https://www.dropbox.com/s/kmuo24gztr2v0j7/Comparison.pdf?dl=0
  4. Greetings. I run a Win 7 PC as a source to my Audioengine A5+ speakers paired to a Topping D50s DAC to stream FLAC music files. Wondering which option I should select from the given sample and bitrates.
  5. As a dedicated Apple user, which format should I select to download high-resolution music files? I have used other sites where the only option is FLAC. I have converted these files to use on my Mac and iPhone, but hate managing two different sets of the same songs. Often times I am in another location, non-mobile, but not at home when I am listening. I am trying out JRiver’s Media Center, which is a manageable price – streaming is not high on my priority list. If someone invites or wants me to listen to some songs, they are often provided in the FLAC format. Yes, I realize FLAC and AIFF are about the same, but iTunes still doesn’t play FLAC files. Hence, my trial before moving to JRiver. Any thoughts?
  6. Greetings! I have an HTPC running Windows 10 Professional with lossless music stored and I want to activate two different sound outputs simultaneously in a 'bit perfect' way: - one is via USB for an external DAC. - the other is via HDMI for my AV processor. The idea is to use JRiver Media Center for playing my CD's and SACD's. For playing CD's I would use only the external DAC (no need to even turn on the AV processor). For playing SACD's in multi channel I would like to use still the DAC for the front channels but my AV processor for the remaining channels. For this thing to work I would need first to be able to activate both outputs at the same time without echos or any kind of artifacts/distortions. Then I would need to configure the USB DAC for stereo and finally the AV processor via HDMI in 5.1. I've learned that Voicemeter could handle the first part of the job but it is not 'bit perfect'... I don't know if HIFI-Cable and ASIO Bridge would suite my purposes. The only thing I know is that this is 'bit perfect'. Any help would be highly appreciated!
  7. This is my first topic I am initiating, and I didn't see it already covered, though it may be somewhere so excuse any redundancies please. I've been a JRiver user for a few years now, and have wanted to get into multi-room (whole house) audio. I tried using various DLNA renderers as separate zones, which works, but the sync is awful, can't easily grab online streaming services and send to different zones, etc. So after researching SONOS (which I'm thinking is probably a bad word around here), and DTS Play-Fi, I ended up going the Play-Fi route getting a Paradigm PW Link. I wired it directly to my router via CAT5e, which drives a decent Parasound AMP, which drives a decent pair of outdoor DefTech speakers. I'm happy with the sound quality, but there are obvious issues with Play-Fi, hence the article I pasted below, which I can certainly relate to. My question: what is the alternative? I understand DLNA does not do room sync all that well, but perhaps some DLNA compliant products contain such syncing SW? I'm not interested in spending $0,000's per end point. The $350 PW Link fit the budget just fine, and I'm tempted to buy another one, but before I get too far down the Play-Fi highway, what are the alternatives?
  8. Crossfeed is an attempt (either in software or hardware) to "fix" the skewed stereo effect when listening headphones. Stereo assumes two speakers in front of you, not right on your ears. Roon has a built in crossfeed DSP function based on the Bauer implementation: http://bs2b.sourceforge.net/ JRiver has an unidentified (at least I have not been able to find anything specific about it) implementation in their DSP interface (with varying strengths of moderate, standard, etc.). Of the two, I prefer Roon's. Indeed, while I would not call Roon's transparent it improves most (but not all) recordings for me in spite of a bit (but only a bit) of mid range "veiling" for lack of a better word. JRiver's implementation sounds to my ears a bit more heavy handed. I still use it on occasion however. Anyone have experience with any other implementations (perhaps a VST plugin in JRiver)? Do you regularly use Crossfeed?
  9. I have previously posted asking how to configure JRiver to send stereo to multiple zones. I have now come up with a solution. This is the best I could manage without moving to pro audio type solution. I would still like to implement a master volume for the convolution channels but for now I guess I have to live with this setup. It was a slow progress from 2 speakers to the current 26 speakers setup. It took me 5 years to get the 4 speakers correct and last few months for the rest of the speakers. The convolution works for stereo setup too and it doesn't cost much. p.s. Where is the "Preview" button?
  10. Apologies up front if there is a more appropriate forum to post this in. It crosses several topics (networked audio, equipment, software). Bottom line up front: I’m looking for an alternative to my current Mac Mini / JRiver - based music server setup that is more stable. I leave the computer on 24/7, with JRiver running, and I expect to be able to playback music using my iPhone running JRemote whenever I want to listen to something. This works more often than it doesn’t, but too often I attempt to play music via JRemote and get nothing, at which point I turn on the TV only to discover the Mac has thrown a dialog box or an error or JRIver has crashed. Once I clear out the dialog box / error window and if necessary relaunch JRiver or reboot, the system works as designed. This happens often enough that I want a solution that is more stable, preferably using the same hardware I already own, but if necessary I’d switch hardware. To be very clear, I’m not looking for new functionality or improved sound quality, just better stability. Setup: Mac Mini (2011) with 8GB RAM running OS X El Capitan and JRiver MC 21. The monitor is my main TV which I use to watch video. Music is stored on a 3TB local external hard drive that is connected to the Mini via Firewire 800. The Mini is connected to a 802.11ac router via ethernet cat 6. It feeds two separate music systems via USB 2.0 (one home theater / stereo, one headphone rig). Additionally, there is a 3rd system that I stream music to over my home network via DNLA. I use an iPhone running JRemote as my primary controller, again via DNLA. Uses: 90% listen to 2ch music stored on the hard drive on one of the three systems I already mentioned (two connected to the Mini via USB, one remote system that streams from JRiver). 9-10% streaming video over the internet (I do the vast majority of my video watching using a Roku rather than the Mini, but I’ll use the Mini to watch sources that aren’t compatible with the Roku). 0-1% Multi-channel video content. On those rare occasions where I watch multi-channel via the Mini, I use XBMC for OS X rather than JRiver. I do this infrequently enough that I don’t mind the process of quitting JRiver, modifying the necessary configurations on the Apple MIDI utility, and launching XBMC, then when I’m done reconfiguring the system for music / 2ch. Any suggestions? Would running XBMC on Linux and using it for music playback offer me the stability I’m looking for? (I could always boot back into OS X when I want to use the computer to stream video over the internet.) Other ideas? I really am hoping to avoid buying a dedicated music server, though that’s probably the solution that would offer the most stability. Thanks, and if anything in my description is unclear, or if there is additional info you need me to provide about my system or how I use it, just let me know.
  11. So I bought a Teac UD-301 yesterday. I followed the instructions and installed the driver before connecting it to the PC via USB. I have my internal sound card set as the default device so no Windows sounds go through the Teac device. I have set the audio output in JRiver to the Teac asio driver. Sometimes it plays songs but sometimes it doesn't and sometimes the Teac doesn't even appear in the list of sound devices and I have to turn it off and on again to get it to show. When it does play, it will work for a little bit but changing song, or skipping the track makes the DAC just cut out. I connected it via the optical port from the optical out on my motherboard and had the same issues, so this isn't a problem relating to the USB input. Another thing that's weird, is that when it does work, I notice the output to be extremely loud, as if it's amplifying the signal. I have it connected via XLR straight to powered monitors and even at quarter volume on the Teac it's much much louder than previous DACs I've used with built in pre-amp. I don't even have the gain set to 0db on my speakers. Saying that, the sound is fantastic. Very detailed and I haven't heard the low end sound so good on these speakers. Any comments would be very much welcome. (oh, and I'm using windows 10).
  12. Hi, I am traveling and suddenly my JRiver apps on MacBook Pro, iPhone and iPad cannot find my music files on my Synology NAS. JRiver connects to the music server, the iMac, and can see the library/albums/songs, but when i choose a track nothing plays and I get the error message: Audio Streaming Error. There was a problem playing the current audio file. : Yet I can connect and play music using Synology's audio station app. Has anyone experienced this? Can this be fixed remotely or do I need to wait until I return home? Thanks Bill
  13. Hello, following a fantastic article from your site i was able, through bubbleUpnp, to stream my music via Jriver to my chromecast audio device and play it. Now i bought a second chromecast audio for another room in oud house and also installed it so i can use it that way. Time for my question however: using the Google Home app i linked the two chromecast audio' s to be able to use them together (and of course in sync). With an app like Spotify this works like a charm. Although Jriver an JRemote recognize the linked chromecasts as a nee dnla-renderer and i can choose it as a device to stream my music to, nothing more happens....no music..using them seperately they both work however. I am trying this setup because using Jriver ability to link zones doesn't work, at least not in sync. Any thoughts on why my setup doesn't work would be appreciated.
  14. How can I install JRiver MC on Windows 2016 Server (Datacenter) CORE Mode? This WS version can not switch between GUI and CORE mode, so the applications must install in CORE. I tried install JRiver but the process aborted and raised an error message: iexplorer not found. Is there any way to solve the problem?
  15. Hi, I waited with Win 10 - 64 Pro Creators Update, and yesterday decided let's update, and in Microsoft usual way more problems generated than solved, I can start JRiver 22 and playback on the PC is working fine, but as soon I switch to S/PDIF converter (M2Tech HiFace EVO) blues screen appears, with stop code, and what failed: vadspdif64.sys. Up to this update worked fine with different versions of JRiver. I would like to know if somebody is having same issues? JRiver 22.0.108 Windows Edition 10 Pro / Version 1703 / Build 15063.483
  16. Hi, I'm trying t get the best from my configuration JRiver Media Center 24 (on a fanless i3, Windows 10) Audiolab M-DAC+ (using the provided IUSBAudio Driver ASIO) Since the M-DAC+ supports up to DSD256, I give it a try, using the options provided by JRiver Media Center 24, and, since then I'm converting on the fly my material from PCM to DSD128 (it seems that my i3 is unable to do more than that without stuttering). SQ is heavily modified with the standard material, in a way identically described all over the world. I asked to my my guitar teacher to compare the different versions, without telling him what to expect, and, when I asked to listen a 16/48 converted to DSD128 he jumped on the seat, saying: "Uh!?!". Me, I'm using DSP Studio to do the conversion. Let me guess that I'm bypassing the Windows Audio engine, since with this configuration I can disable the JRiver Media Center 24 and Windows 10 volume). Is it the better choice? By the way I tried also HQPlayer with identical results. Now it hangs, and I don't know the reason. Perhaps I have modified the wrong parameter among the 100's available (HQPlayer reminds me a Caterpillar, full of leverages. On the opposite there are cars with the automatic gear. Me, I like better my Alfa Romeo with a manual gear, and so my JRiver Media Center 24). Thanks
  17. Hi, I'm trying t get the best from my configuration JRiver Media Center 24 (on a fanless i3, Windows 10) Audiolab M-DAC+ (using the provided IUSBAudio Driver ASIO) Since the M-DAC+ supports up to DSD256, I give it a try, using the options provided by JRiver Media Center 24, and, since then I'm converting on the fly my material from PCM to DSD128 (it seems that my i3 is unable to do more than that without stuttering). SQ is heavily modified with the standard material, in a way identically described all over the world. I asked to my my guitar teacher to compare the different versions, without telling him what to expect, and, when I asked to listen a 16/48 converted to DSD128 he jumped on the seat, saying: "Uh!?!". Me, I'm using DSP Studio to do the conversion. Let me guess that I'm bypassing the Windows Audio engine, since with this configuration I can disable the JRiver Media Center 24 and Windows 10 volume). Is it the better choice? By the way I tried also HQPlayer with identical results. Now it hangs, and I don't know the reason. Perhaps I have modified the wrong parameter among the 100's available (HQPlayer reminds me a Caterpillar, full of leverages. On the opposite there are cars with the automatic gear. Me, I like better my Alfa Romeo with a manual gear, and so my JRiver Media Center 24). Thanks
  18. What is a good approach to listening to DSD files (.dsf mainly) with a Chord DAVE? Edited: (my error in setting things up).
  19. Anyone can help with the external encoder so that I could convert files to 1141 bitrate using uncompressed wave. Usually, it is not a problem where even DSD files could be converted to 1141 bitrate using uncompressed with 16 bit. However, I am unable to convert AIFF files that used sampling rate of 48000hz. I still get the same bitrate with the WAVE conversion using JRiver. It is such an hassle to convert track by track using Audacity. It can be easily addressed by JRiver if they add one more option to select the sampling rate. I have posted in JRiver forum but no response so far. It got got to do with external encoder and writing the script there. I ?. Any help is is much appreciated. Thank you.
  20. I am having an issue in JRiver 24, 64 bit where I get a pop/click when a song starts playing and when the song is of a different sample rate. I was told I should resample on the fly. So my DAC does 24/192 and my files are 16/44 - 24/192. Should I just set all files to up-sample to 24/192 in JRiver? Is there a sound degradation to this? I am using WASAPI Event and SoX. I have also tries ASIO. BTW, this is only happening in JRiver, not Foobar2000, MusicBee or my brief trial of Audirvana. Thanks.
  21. Really diggin this new version. Sounds a bit cleaner. Don’t know if it’s due to the 64 bit architecture or not. I went from 20 to 23.
  22. My solution for using JRiver as a front-end to HQPlayer described in this thread was described by me as "limited". Then it evolved into something which, I believe, is quite full featured. Now I have added a small enhancement to this DIY script to support feeding JRiver and onto HQPlayer from UPNP servers. Don't get too excited though, because once more I have to add the word "limited" to the title. This is because you are limited to sending just one track at a time. There is no possibility at this time for playback of entire albums or playlists. If you are wiling to play DJ though, it can open up the possibility of sending tracks from any source which can be served from an appropriate UPNP server. This can include Qobuz, Spotify, Tidal, or any other sources the UPNP server in question supports. The limitation is caused by the fact that, once J River has handed the url to HQPlayer using my script, J River no longer knows about the URL, and there is no longer any syncing with the UPNP server. I may not have exhausted all the possibilities though. So partly I'm posting this as a cry for help to see if any of you might have some suggestions as to how we could get a UPNP server to send JRiver each subsequent track in an album or playlist, so that my script can then automatically pass the track's url to HQPlayer. I know this can be done with HQPlayer embedded, since that can be a upnp renderer. That solution is limited to linux only though (or a two box/dual boot, Linux and Windows set-up). So far I have tested my solution with mconnect running on IOS. This works fine, excepting the "single track at a time" limit. The disadvantage is that this doesn't support any higher than 16bit 44.1khz and Qobuz can go higher than that with a Sublime or Sublime + subscription. Then I tested using LMS (Logitech Media Server). LMS allows you to play to multiple players and sync them together. It also supports just about every source out there. It is necessary to install the "UPNP Bridge" plug-in and configure it correctly. For one track at a time only, I was able to get LMS in sync with HQPlayer by sending to both foobar2000 (with the UPNP component installed) and JRiver. I told LMS to keep foobar2000 and JRIver in sync. The track gets sent to both foobar2000 and JRIver at the same time, my script passes it from JRIver to HQPlayer and it plays with HQPlayer. Foobar2000 and LMS playback all kept in sync. JRiver itself, of course isn't actually playing anything. I send foobar2000's output to "Null output", so only HQPlayer is actually playing the track. The problem is that when it comes time for LMS to send the next track from the album or playlist, although it does get sent to foobar2000 and my script gets run, that second url is not delivered to JRiver or HQPlayer. Only foobar2000 gets and plays this second and any other subsequent tracks. I know that using 2 (3 including HQPlayer) players in this way is convoluted. I had hope for it though. If anyone here can find a way of getting it working for subsequent tracks, I'll be very eager to learn about your solution. I'll also be interested in any other solutions that could work with my script. Any other UPNP servers and also BubbleUPNP could be interesting. So I've attached my new version of the script below. Those of you who are already using my JRiver to HQPlayer solution for local files, will only need to replace the main powershell script. If you'll be using it for the first time you'll need the full package, also attached. So anyone who has any feedback/suggestions for this, please let me know. Or if you just want to play DJ with your UPNP server, have fun! https://www.dropbox.com/s/1z6f0l589uhk8ke/jrexp.ps1?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/u9a5bo9p5vcytrz/jr-hqp-album.zip?dl=0
  23. Hi All, I have for some time now been considering designing a DAC that is capable of only one sample rate playback - so as to optimize the circuitry for this particular sample rate. Yet, to make this feasible in practice I will have to use my computer to perform the sample rate conversion from any and all of the sources that I would like to play. And this may include tidal, CD, youtube, the National Danish Radio, etc ... I have previously asked Miska (the HQPlayer developer) if it would be possible to stream music from these sources using HQPlayer as the "sound data handler" towards the USB-to-DAC converter, and his reply was affirmative - this is doable. I wonder, though: - how simple/easy it is to set up a "streaming system" on the computer, i.e. is it also simple/easy to add new music sources (e.g. tidal)? I much prefer it to be simple so that I can enjoy the music instead of having to focus on the technical aspects. - what it requires in terms of software (preferably only a software & USB-to-DAC solution) besides HQPlayer ... (Roon, JRiver, something else)? Again simplicity and an intuitive use is key. - How stable it is ... That is does such a setup often experience interrupts, drop-outs, or some other "issue" that interferes with music listening? Besides the single sample rate DAC another option is a DAC that is capable of sample rate switching - like what a normal DAC does ... I just happen to be intrigued by the single sample-rate DAC - and before deciding which path to take - would like to hear if someone here has experience with such a setup from the perspective of reasonable simplicity & stability in practical use ... Cheers & thanks for any insights Jesper
  24. JRiver has implemented upsampling using the open source SoX codec for a while now, but it is only implemented as a checkbox "on or off" on the local playback. The full parameter set of SoX enables the user to choose between linear o minimal phase, steep or slow roll off options. This is important to upsample in what one can consider a more musical way, improving the sound reproduction (optional!). In the link below I have compiled a few graphs of different hardware implementations. I invite everyone who thinks this is important to post a +1 on their forums for the feature request. Thanks! https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,113602.0.html
  25. If anyone is interested: https://community.roonlabs.com/t/howto-vsts-loudness-virtual-zones-exclusive-mode-system-notifications-other-apps-sounds-all-together-oh-and-dirac-is-there-too-8/41949 Basically, it is leveraging the amazing EqualizerAPO while providing a workaround for it's one glaring weakness (going through the OS Mixer) using VoiceMeeter. EqualizerAPO developed specific support for VoiceMeeter API so in that case, it is not reliant on the Windows APO framework and will allow us to use WDM Exclusive Mode end-to-end. Example chain: Roon --[WDM Exclusive Mode]--> VoiceMeeter VAIO with EqualizerAPO --[WDM Exclusive Mode]--> Dirac DAP System output --> VoiceMeeter AUX VAIO with EqualizerAPO (set as default audio device) --> Dirac DAP Would prefer to use Dirac as VST under EqualizerAPO and simplify the chain but I don't have access to the Dirac plugins beta. Waiting for the new version. *In the past I used JRiver WDM driver for similar purposes but it had a really audible SQ degradation, cracks, pops, and generally unstable in my system to the point of being unusable. Anyway, I like EqualizerAPO better as a software DSP, at least functionality wise. And it's free
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