Afterdark Master Clock for Uptone EtherRegen

[AfterDark.]

4 hours ago, yoby said:

Hi Adrian: I recently received the After Dark Queen clock for my Ether Regen along with the After dark LPS. It is a very impressive improvement in sound quality right out of the box. I understand that the clock takes a while to settle in. In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the ride.                   I was wondering if anyone has tried upgrading the fuse in the After dark LPS to a Synergistic Orange one? What is the value of the fuse in place and how does one access it? Also, what power cords are you using with it? Good listening. Jeff L 

 

Hello! Jeff,

 

Thanks for your good feedback. The fuse inside can be changed, the fuse socket is located on the front planel. It is rated at 1A for 100-120V, 0.5A for 220-240V. We suggested to use AfterDark Clemintine power cable for best performance. This power cable can be use in Pre-amplified, DAC, music streamer and Giesemann Clock. This cable is airly and lush sounding. 

 

https://www.adark.co/collections/power-cables/products/afterdark-clementine-power-cable

 

 

Have a nice weekend. 

 

Best Regards,

Adrian

AfterDark. 

[Mouna]

just ordered one power cable....

[yoby]

Hi Adrian: Is the fuse the larger size (7x32mm) or the smaller size (5x20mm)? Is that 1A fast blo (F) or slow blo? (T). Thanks again. Jeff L

[FredA]

My Eva clock is scheduled to be delivered on Monday. Can't wait! 

[AfterDark.]

6 hours ago, yoby said:

Hi Adrian: Is the fuse the larger size (7x32mm) or the smaller size (5x20mm)? Is that 1A fast blo (F) or slow blo? (T). Thanks again. Jeff L

 

Hi! Yoby,

 

Thanks for your questions. The fuse is small size 5x20mm @1A fast blo. 

 

Have a nice weekend.

 

Best Regards,

Adrian

AfterDark.  

[Qstik]

I ordered my Emperor Double Crown with their Modernize LPS on Friday, April 16th at 4 a.m. local HK time.  It was packaged and in the hands of Hong Kong Post by Monday, April 19th - well done, AfterDark.  I just received that package in SE Michigan via USPS.   Not bad! - seven business days, eleven elapsed days.  A signed Certificate of Calibration for my serial number was included.  Packaging was excellent.

 

Burning in now.

[FredA]

Hi eveyone.

 

I got my 3-input Eva. It came with a couple of loose screws, which i re-installed in a breeze. I had to open it to proceed. The box is basically empty. Not even 10% of the inside is filled. It is a minimalistic design using quality part, from what i could see. Also, it came without the calibration certificate. Adrian should remedy to this, i take for granted. A suggestion for you, Adrian, use locking washers to prevent loose screws.

 

I use the clock to feed my audio-gd di20he and r7he. It has been on for 30 hours.

 

How good is it? I would say excellent. It a very good upgrade from my former Morion mv89a i got on ebay. I brings more details and better imaging to the party. Better bass too. And the burn-in is not close to being done. Also the sound is very smooth, more analog than i had ever heard in my room.

 

I also got the Afterdark mkii 4k 0.5m hdmi i2s cable, it took a bit of time but i now have adopted it, it is excellent too.

 

Cheers to you, Adrian.

[FredA]

Just made some more listening. With the best live album i have, what i hear is very convincing virtual audio reality. As i like to say, when a system sounds right, it is both analytical and musical at once. You decide what you focus on. This is exactly it but with such convincing depth, tridimensionality. The band is in the room. And the crowd too. 

[R1200CL]

On 4/19/2021 at 1:00 PM, Superdad said:

Please don’t spread untrue rumors Andreas. There is not a “next” EtherREGEN in development at all at present.

You know that UpTone develops products slower than glaciers melt.  We are working on other things (not Ethernet related). 
EtherREGEN by itself is already fine, and adding a modest clock to it is nice for those who wish to do so.

If people wish to throw thousands of dollars/Euros at standard switch designs with OCXO and power supply built in, there seem to be more options for that every month.  (Frankly I think it is just a money-grab as nobody is showing much innovation in thier boxes...)

 

I don’t see a need of such an upgraded EtherRegen. To expensive, and you can obtain the absolutely best SQ with a top external clock. I can’t see a huge market for a 3K switch. 
 

However, what is missing in order to get the perfect DDC EtherRegen is a version with fiber out and clock at same side. A version that can better benefit the opticalRendu users, and those few DAC’s / streamers that has optical in. 
I’m claiming, and I guess @JohnSwenson will have to measure in order to verify, that going B>A you loose some phase noise etc with an external clock vs going A>B. (Actually John once said B>A won’t work very well with an external clock. But some have found that this  isn’t 100% correct).

 

So this is a product request. I don’t know if there’s a market for such a DDC. I’m convinced the future is optical for all type of digital signals in audio. 
 

SFP / SFP+ in and out. Probably an additional RJ45 in, to accept another EtherRegen feeding it. Clock and external clock on output side. (As with EtherRegen)

I understand such a DDC may require each side using separate power supplies. So one would need two LPS-1.2

 

I hope we can see such a special version in future. 
So it’s not an upgraded EtherRegen, but more a supplementary version for optical out with external clock.

 

[PYP]

Adrian,

Do you sell a 75 ohm wave clock that has the LPS in the same case as the clock?   I'm thinking long-term about trying a clock on my second eR and I'm running out of space to put my gear.

 

Thanks.

[AfterDark.]

6 hours ago, PYP said:

Adrian,

Do you sell a 75 ohm wave clock that has the LPS in the same case as the clock?   I'm thinking long-term about trying a clock on my second eR and I'm running out of space to put my gear.

 

Thanks.

 

HiI PYP,

 

Thanks for your interested. We do not planned to include the LPS inside the Giesemann Clock, the size of the box is too tiny to implement the good LPS with it.

 

We have some good feedback from other customer today. We implemented a new label with model and serial number, design a better box to cope with demands. Thanks everyone to share good feedback, we are improving on process, so we can delivery within 3-5 days via Fedex now. 

 

[Mjw21a]

I was having an issue where my Mutec MC-3+USB would intermittently lose sync with the Afterdark clock so I recently purchased a new 1m 75ohm Tchernov Special clock cable from Addicted to Audio to replace the cable the clock came with. 

 

What do you know,  no more issues so well worth the expense.  Sounds quite closed in so I guess some burn in is required. Now I get to start saving all over again towards an Emperor Double Crown. Ah well.   :)

[AfterDark.]

5 hours ago, Mjw21a said:

I was having an issue where my Mutec MC-3+USB would intermittently lose sync with the Afterdark clock so I recently purchased a new 1m 75ohm Tchernov Special clock cable from Addicted to Audio to replace the cable the clock came with. 

 

What do you know,  no more issues so well worth the expense.  Sounds quite closed in so I guess some burn in is required. Now I get to start saving all over again towards an Emperor Double Crown. Ah well.   :)

 

We have more positive feedback with Giesemann Queen x EtherREGEN. Thanks everyone who shares the feedback with us.

 

 

 

[yoby]

Hi everyone: I installed a Synergistic Research Orange small (5x20mm) 1A Fast Blow (F) fuse into my After Dark LPS. This is a stunning upgrade for the money. Some gear doesn't respond much to fuse upgrades, but this LPS does. Simply remove the four hex key screws of the front panel and the fuse is right there. Good listening. Jeff

[ambre]

4 minutes ago, yoby said:

Hi everyone: I installed a Synergistic Research Orange small (5x20mm) 1A Fast Blow (F) fuse into my After Dark LPS. This is a stunning upgrade for the money. Some gear doesn't respond much to fuse upgrades, but this LPS does. Simply remove the four hex key screws of the front panel and the fuse is right there. Good listening. Jeff

Did you check direction?

[Mjw21a]

1 hour ago, yoby said:

Hi everyone: I installed a Synergistic Research Orange small (5x20mm) 1A Fast Blow (F) fuse into my After Dark LPS. This is a stunning upgrade for the money. Some gear doesn't respond much to fuse upgrades, but this LPS does. Simply remove the four hex key screws of the front panel and the fuse is right there. Good listening. Jeff

 

Hi Jeff,  can you please describe the audible differences? I'm curious after reading this.

[yoby]

I installed it with the  SR writing reading left to right as you're looking at it. The sound is fuller and more robust yet  nicely detailed. I'm hearing deeper into the music with no harshness or edginess at all. The soundstage has also deepened slightly ( this is actually a plus for my system/listening room). The fuse that comes stock with the After Dark LPS sounds dull in comparison. There is a 30 day money back guarantee with these fuses, making it a no brainer decision. Good listening my friends and thank you all for the advice and input you've offered on this forum.

[Johnnydev]

6 hours ago, yoby said:

Hi everyone: I installed a Synergistic Research Orange small (5x20mm) 1A Fast Blow (F) fuse into my After Dark LPS. This is a stunning upgrade for the money. Some gear doesn't respond much to fuse upgrades, but this LPS does. Simply remove the four hex key screws of the front panel and the fuse is right there. Good listening. Jeff

what is your afterdark LPS connected to?

[yoby]

Hi Johnnydev: The After Dark LPS is connected to the After Dark Queen clock via the stock DC and BNC cables.

[Mjw21a]

9 hours ago, yoby said:

I installed it with the  SR writing reading left to right as you're looking at it. The sound is fuller and more robust yet  nicely detailed. I'm hearing deeper into the music with no harshness or edginess at all. The soundstage has also deepened slightly ( this is actually a plus for my system/listening room). The fuse that comes stock with the After Dark LPS sounds dull in comparison. There is a 30 day money back guarantee with these fuses, making it a no brainer decision. Good listening my friends and thank you all for the advice and input you've offered on this forum.

Hmmm, I may try a 1a short blow silver fuse from Aucharm or some such. The fuse you listed is out of stock.  This will at least allow me to test for audible changes.

[Mat]

I have a queen sine wave with etherregen 50 OHM, is that the wrong version ?

[AfterDark.]

8 minutes ago, Mat said:

I have a queen sine wave with etherregen 50 OHM, is that the wrong version ?

 

Hi! Mat,

 

We have queen sine wave in 50 ohm for your EtherREGEN 50 ohm. The 50ohm is matched, so it will work fine. 

 

Have a nice weekend.

 

Best Regards,

Adrian

AfterDark.

[Mat]

22 minutes ago, AfterDark. said:

 

Hi! Mat,

 

We have queen sine wave in 50 ohm for your EtherREGEN 50 ohm. The 50ohm is matched, so it will work fine. 

 

Have a nice weekend.

 

Best Regards,

Adrian

AfterDark.

Thanks Adrian,

I mean about sine wave and square-wave mismatch ? 

[AfterDark.]

3 minutes ago, Mat said:

Thanks Adrian,

I mean about sine wave and square-wave mismatch ? 

 

Hi! Mat,

 

EtherREGEN can accept both sine wave and square-wave, so they will work fine without mismatch.

 

Thanks.

 

Best Regards,

Adrian

AfterDark. 

[Mat]

20 minutes ago, AfterDark. said:

 

Hi! Mat,

 

EtherREGEN can accept both sine wave and square-wave, so they will work fine without mismatch.

 

Thanks.

 

Best Regards,

Adrian

AfterDark. 

Do I need mini circuits ?