AfterDark. Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Hello! We are delighted to receive some positive feedback for Giesemann Clock and BNC Clock cable. The improvement is quite impressive for audiophiles. Thanks everyone's support. Best Regards, Adrian AfterDark. Amp: Goldmund 27+ EVO Preamp, Goldmund 29M Power Amp, Goldmund AC-Curator DAC: CH Precision C1.1 Digital Convertor, Studer D19 DAC, Wadia 2000 DAC Digital: Mutec MC3-USB, AfterDark. Giesemann OCXO 10M Master Clock Giesemann EVA Playback: Goldmund PH3 Phono Amp, Linn LP12, Studer A807 VU MKII Open Reel Network Switch: AFTERDARK. PROJECT CLAYX BUFFALO BS-GS2016 CASCADE X GIESEMANN OCXO BLACK MODERNIZE EDITION x Farad Super3 LPS Dealer: UpTone Audio, Gustard, Farad Power Supply, Cybershaft, Thixar, DELA Link to comment
AfterDark. Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Hello! We received a positive feedback using Giesemann Emperor Signature from Michael C. from Switzerland. Keep burning in for 4 days unit 35days to reach optimal stage. Have a nice day and enjoy "burn in" every day. Best Regards, Adrian AfterDark. Superdad 1 Amp: Goldmund 27+ EVO Preamp, Goldmund 29M Power Amp, Goldmund AC-Curator DAC: CH Precision C1.1 Digital Convertor, Studer D19 DAC, Wadia 2000 DAC Digital: Mutec MC3-USB, AfterDark. Giesemann OCXO 10M Master Clock Giesemann EVA Playback: Goldmund PH3 Phono Amp, Linn LP12, Studer A807 VU MKII Open Reel Network Switch: AFTERDARK. PROJECT CLAYX BUFFALO BS-GS2016 CASCADE X GIESEMANN OCXO BLACK MODERNIZE EDITION x Farad Super3 LPS Dealer: UpTone Audio, Gustard, Farad Power Supply, Cybershaft, Thixar, DELA Link to comment
jkenton Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Based on Singxer SU-6 specs and configuration, there is a single 75 ohm BNC WCLK out on rear of unit. Therefore should one assume it is not possible to connect an After Dark 10 Mhz clock ( which can be done on Singxer SU-2) ? AfterDark. 1 Link to comment
Superdad Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 4 hours ago, jkenton said: Based on Singxer SU-6 specs and configuration, there is a single 75 ohm BNC WCLK out on rear of unit. Therefore should one assume it is not possible to connect an After Dark 10 Mhz clock ( which can be done on Singxer SU-2) ? That is correct Jeff. AfterDark. 1 UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
AfterDark. Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 12 hours ago, jkenton said: Based on Singxer SU-6 specs and configuration, there is a single 75 ohm BNC WCLK out on rear of unit. Therefore should one assume it is not possible to connect an After Dark 10 Mhz clock ( which can be done on Singxer SU-2) ? Hi! Jeff, We have range of Singxer Collections, including the latest model for all audiophilestyle.com user. Group buy is possible if anyone interested in Singxer SU-2 (with 10M Master Clock input) or Singxer SU-6 all in one Femto clock (without 10M Master Clock input bypass) . Singxer product is sold out every weeks with high demends, the Giesemann Clock Trifecta works really well with Singxer, it is quite amazing to hear. Amp: Goldmund 27+ EVO Preamp, Goldmund 29M Power Amp, Goldmund AC-Curator DAC: CH Precision C1.1 Digital Convertor, Studer D19 DAC, Wadia 2000 DAC Digital: Mutec MC3-USB, AfterDark. Giesemann OCXO 10M Master Clock Giesemann EVA Playback: Goldmund PH3 Phono Amp, Linn LP12, Studer A807 VU MKII Open Reel Network Switch: AFTERDARK. PROJECT CLAYX BUFFALO BS-GS2016 CASCADE X GIESEMANN OCXO BLACK MODERNIZE EDITION x Farad Super3 LPS Dealer: UpTone Audio, Gustard, Farad Power Supply, Cybershaft, Thixar, DELA Link to comment
sakso136 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, AfterDark. said: Hi! Jeff, We have range of Singxer Collections, including the latest model for all audiophilestyle.com user. Group buy is possible if anyone interested in Singxer SU-2 (with 10M Master Clock input) or Singxer SU-6 all in one Femto clock (without 10M Master Clock input bypass) . Singxer product is sold out every weeks with high demends, the Giesemann Clock Trifecta works really well with Singxer, it is quite amazing to hear. Hi, I realised yesterday that i cant clock my moded by ghent audio singxer su1,and all my plan is messed out. I was thinking to clock both su1 and ER with one of your clock. I was thinking the EDC with 3 output but a member here suggested i go one AD clock with y splitter for both. Anyway now i m screwed and i need to replan. The su1 is powered by dxp and one ps,and it is good,but i still feel theres a layer or 2 of resolution wich can be cleared. A friend suggested the audiowise src dx for usb conversion,and then i will add one of your giesmann clock. The other choice is su2 + AD Giesmann CLOCK. Can you please help me move into the right directiin and choose wich clock is the best bang for the buck. I used before your top of the range bnc clock cable ,very good but sold to a friend. Also,still confused wich model i need 75 or 50 ohm for my normal ER. THKS Link to comment
R1200CL Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 @AfterDark. Have you considered doing the clock modification on the SU2 ? Described here: Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 8:35 AM, GryphonGuy said: Agreed that there is no NEED. BUT and its a big but, the resulting sound quality it literally delivers is extremely if not most desirable. Regards GG Hi GG, Somehow missed your post 6 mths ago ... I concur the positive impact with ER with wifi in MY system ... I am running my home with AirTies wire mesh and one node is dedicated to to my music system for internet music. My playback of music files is from internal 2x4tb ssd in my Antipodes cx while my 10TBx2 Synology NAS is powered off for backup only. Without the ER between the mesh node, it is veiled in comparison ... I also had the AD double crown oxco clock to bypass the ER's femto clock. The Antipodes cx and ex just came back after the recent Oladra upgrade and I have now a 2nd ER without the AD clock before the cx to have the 1st ER with the AD clock between the cx and ex. This as recommended by Uptone to have ER nearest to my Terminator Plus dac which also benefit the SSD playback in comparison until I decides to get the 2nd AD clock or shoot a used Mutec Ref 10 or 120se. Yes, ER especially with AD clock improves wifi streaming in MY system without a doubt. Incidentally, I have the 25m Supra Cat 8 cable in the cardboard since against the norm, it sounded worse than the Airties mesh node which I did modded its single cap with Panasonic FM while having it as well as master node and router on lps. Cheers. Richard Superdad 1 Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 On 4/10/2021 at 7:35 PM, DSK6 said: Unfortunately I can’t tell you which component made the biggest difference but I’m not about to start messing with it now. I really can’t see how replacing the EtherREGEN’s SMPS with a good LPS could improve things further … but … I kept to using the small stock smps for the following reasons: 1. Current sound quality improvement after 2x ER and 1x AD double crown clock suffices 2. Avoid more $ spent, including associated dc cables 3. Lack of space, including associated cables 4. Uptone's position that stock smps is fine 5. Not knowledgeable enough on concern of common ground, breaking moat 6. Keep limited $ for next hardware or technology breakthru at cost within my budget e.g. ER, AD clock, Oladra upgrade for my Antipodes Cheers. Superdad 1 Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
R1200CL Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, richard_crl032 said: I decides to get the 2nd AD clock How about testing the Cybershaft splitter ? Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Hi R1200CL, My ERs are standard 75 ohm ones and this splitter thingy is 50ohm needing further convertor (s). Been reading nicely shared info here on impedence mismatch, sine clock signal not affected, breaking of moat being not isolated etc. etc. as well as eventual preference for 2 units by someone who tried. However, I am frankly confused often while knowing it just cannot be better or worse still negatively affecting the 2nd ER between the Antipode ex player and cx server if I do try using splitter and converter with more cabling ... I will just take it that I have 1 ER with AD clock before the ex player as recommended but there is no doubt on the significant improvement from having them. Cheers. Richard Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
Johnnydev Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 10 hours ago, richard_crl032 said: I kept to using the small stock smps for the following reasons: 1. Current sound quality improvement after 2x ER and 1x AD double crown clock suffices 2. Avoid more $ spent, including associated dc cables 3. Lack of space, including associated cables 4. Uptone's position that stock smps is fine 5. Not knowledgeable enough on concern of common ground, breaking moat 6. Keep limited $ for next hardware or technology breakthru at cost within my budget e.g. ER, AD clock, Oladra upgrade for my Antipodes Cheers. I have the same as you, namely 2x ER + 1x afterdark (giesemann EVA) clock. After a while use the Uptone SMPS which was very good on the ER, replaced everything with Farad super3 with level2 copper cables and the improvement is significant richard_crl032 1 Link to comment
Carlos E Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Hi Richard and John, Maybe this is not the correct forum but do you please can comment on what the ER add between the CX and EX? That will be a very interesting information for me and maybe others members. I am using the S40/S60 + EX with a Sablon ethernet cable (2021) between them. Adding a SOTM ISO-CAT 6 change the presentation but not for better, in my case, the organic sound of this combo gone. I am also burning (5 days now) an AfterDark clock (the less expansive one) and so far my impressions are very positive. I always prefer the Antipodes combo (through USB) due to it organic sound compared to the DCS Bartok internal streamer (using Mosaic) which have much more impact, dynamic, bass control (that I like) but more aggressive at high frequency that I don't like. With the ER+AfterDark clock everything changed. Now the Bartok have have the same dynamic, better bass control but now, much more organic sound. I been listing to the Bartok alone for the last two days and it sound amazing. Regards Carlos Link to comment
Popular Post richard_crl032 Posted September 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2021 Hi Johnny, Tks for the sharing especially I had checked and found the farad3 of reasonable $ 🙏 However, the dual zerozone lps, ifi iusb3.0/iusb, uptone lps1.2, powercords, ghent dc cables etc. suffices at this juncture and will keep to stock smps especially since uptone who designed the ER vouch for them .. the rabbit hole is deep enuff and sound quality with the recently oladra upgraded Antipodes ex+cx at usd4k and moving the ER and AD clock between the cx and ex is mighty fine. I just cleaned up the back of my hifi rack and the jungle of cablings for my system (believe below photo irks you too !) and wish for no more boxes or cabling unless absolutely some major technological breakthru or specific requirement ... there will always be a better psu. Thanks again and cheers. Richard Johnnydev and PYP 1 1 Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
Popular Post richard_crl032 Posted September 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Carlos E said: Hi Richard and John, Maybe this is not the correct forum but do you please can comment on what the ER add between the CX and EX? That will be a very interesting information for me and maybe others members. I am using the S40/S60 + EX with a Sablon ethernet cable (2021) between them. Adding a SOTM ISO-CAT 6 change the presentation but not for better, in my case, the organic sound of this combo gone. I am also burning (5 days now) an AfterDark clock (the less expansive one) and so far my impressions are very positive. I always prefer the Antipodes combo (through USB) due to it organic sound compared to the DCS Bartok internal streamer (using Mosaic) which have much more impact, dynamic, bass control (that I like) but more aggressive at high frequency that I don't like. With the ER+AfterDark clock everything changed. Now the Bartok have have the same dynamic, better bass control but now, much more organic sound. I been listing to the Bartok alone for the last two days and it sound amazing. Regards Carlos Hi Carlos, My pleasure and since I had been listening these few days ... and before someone indeed says not the right forum .. dunno 😂. However, I do have 2X ERs now and hope my experience still helps. I had the ER and then the ER with AD double crown and it had always been before the cx server as I am more on 24/7 full flac internet radio stations .. against the good advice of Uptone to have them nearest to my Terminator Plus dac. It was also partly due to cabling or lack of them to avoid more $ on Revive Acoustic ethernet cables as well as being plain lazy. Even with this setup, ER made an obvious improvement and adding the AD clock further improved the clarity with blacker back .. music just "pops" and more of everything in a positive manner for me to want to listen more with appreciation to Uptone and AD .. sorry, my reviewer skill sucks and I also find audiophiles' words relative as well as subjective. As it became apparent that Antipodes will not be embarking on clock upgrade I had been wishing for due to positive clocking experience from ER+AD and also from Terminator Plus' oxco clock syncing my other non usb components via Hermes dcc and Avatar cdp, I bought the 2nd ER to have at least an oxco along the chain. Hence moving the AD clock and ER between the cx and ex fulfills this "clock upgrade" albiet not within mobo processing of the Antipodes but now music playback from 2x4TB SSDs can also benefit from the ER+AD in the signal chain. Just before doing so, I had simply added 2nd ER to be between my oladra upgraded cx and ex to avoid the well known needed restabilisation of the AD clock .. not exactly a positive experience me as music became too hifi-ish for again lack of reviewer's skill. Clean and detailed but bordering being harsh and certainly not musical or more enjoyable than without this 2nd ER .. even a bit more veiled and fuzzy without the ER was much more enjoyable in comparison. Disappointed, I shut down the ERs and AD clock to reroute the cablings and now have the AD clock with the 2nd ER between the cx and ex. That put a smile to my face even in initial minutes and I stayed up till 5 am cos it just got better as expected when the AD clock stabilises. Music notes' extension and texture bloomed, staging widen, black got blacker i.e. music "pops" .. sorry for being such a bore with limited superlatives. As with my experience with Hermes dcc and Terminator Plus with synced single high quality oxco of Terminator Plus with which Allo USB signature and NuPrime S1 sounded better, the stock cx+ex did not and hence connected it directly to the Terminator Plus ... all very component dependent imho. In this case of ER between the server and player, it may benefit lesser ones but not the Antipodes cx and ex stack. However with higher quality oxco clock from AD, the outcome changes ... it now improves the link between the cx and ex. Just my thought for your consideration but ymmv as usual ... In summary, highly recommend having the ER but only with AD clock if budget allows for you Antipodes cx+ex stack in the no end hobby of ours .. worthwhile in my opinion and even have the Mutec Ref10/120se for onetime pain if you can swing it as multiple ERs and more suitable devices cannot a bad thing and even needed. 2 or 3 units of AD double crown is not exactly small $ but resale when needed cannot beat the Mutecs with much more functionalities and German technology ... avoids my current dilemma. Hope this helps and I would be interested to even compared my oladra upgraded Antipodes cx+ex stack with "only" usd2k worth of ER and AD double crown clock against the latest usd15k K50 from Antipodes ... in the words of Mark of Antipodes, the oladra upgrade would bring the cx+ex to 80-90% of the K50 😊 Cheers. Richard PYP, Johnnydev, lsantista and 1 other 1 3 Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
Popular Post richard_crl032 Posted September 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2021 1 hour ago, richard_crl032 said: Hi Johnny, Tks for the sharing especially I had checked and found the farad3 of reasonable $ 🙏 Hi Johnny, The front view is not too bad especially when the Mark of Antipodes nicely did blue leds for the oladra upgrade as my last modded blue led component and even offering it as an option to all Antipodes cx and ex owners 😊 Cheers. Richard PS: Oops ..my apology for OOT in this thread 🙏 kennyb123, R1200CL, PYP and 1 other 4 Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
Carlos E Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Hi Richard, Thank you very much for your time in sharing your experience. I really appreciate that and I will do some tests myself. I believe that AD also have a three clock outputs unit but I don't remember how it compare to the Mutec unit in price $. Regards Carlos Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 46 minutes ago, Carlos E said: Hi Richard, Thank you very much for your time in sharing your experience. I really appreciate that and I will do some tests myself. I believe that AD also have a three clock outputs unit but I don't remember how it compare to the Mutec unit in price $. Regards Carlos Hi Carlos, The 3 clock output of double crown level is about HK21k or about usd2.7k which is pushing towards price of an used mutec ref10 (new@usd5k rrp) which arguably will have more resale value ...and its more elaborate functionalities. The Giesemann eva level is about usdk which I have no idea how it compares with the mutec ref10. Hence mentioned dilemma especially when I dun really have the need for a 3rd output and having the ER+AD between cx and ex is more critical going by Uptone's advice. Please share your finding when available. Cheers. Richard PS: Do consider the oladra upgrade as it is time limited .. or rid of the cx+ex as their values had dropped obviously with K50 ... I was also in that dilemma but bit the bullet as blue led was day 1 wish after getting them Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
R1200CL Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Why not test both EtherRegen between the Antipodes cx+ex. Last ER of cause with the AD clock. (A>B>A>B) In theory that may be the best option. Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Hi R1200CL, Because I want the cx server to benefit from 1x ER and I am not a believer of cascading 2X ERs 🙏 Cheers. Richard Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 22 hours ago, richard_crl032 said: Hi Carlos, The 3 clock output of double crown level is about HK21k or about usd2.7k which is pushing towards price of an used mutec ref10 (new@usd5k rrp) which arguably will have more resale value ...and its more elaborate functionalities. The Giesemann eva level is about usdk which I have no idea how it compares with the mutec ref10. Hence mentioned dilemma especially when I dun really have the need for a 3rd output and having the ER+AD between cx and ex is more critical going by Uptone's advice. Please share your finding when available. Cheers. Richard PS: Do consider the oladra upgrade as it is time limited .. or rid of the cx+ex as their values had dropped obviously with K50 ... I was also in that dilemma but bit the bullet as blue led was day 1 wish after getting them For completeness, the phase noise specific of Mutec Ref10 120se. Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
Carlos E Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Richard, Thank you for you suggestions. My EX is going for the upgrade next Monday, as soon as I get it back, I will try the ER between the S40/S60 and EX. At least, I have another good Ethernet switch (not as good but not too bad neither) that can replace the ER current use for a while. Regards Carlos richard_crl032 1 Link to comment
AfterDark. Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Hello! We have some positive feedback for Queen Square Wave SE today. Have a nice weekend. Best Regards, Adrian AfterDark. Amp: Goldmund 27+ EVO Preamp, Goldmund 29M Power Amp, Goldmund AC-Curator DAC: CH Precision C1.1 Digital Convertor, Studer D19 DAC, Wadia 2000 DAC Digital: Mutec MC3-USB, AfterDark. Giesemann OCXO 10M Master Clock Giesemann EVA Playback: Goldmund PH3 Phono Amp, Linn LP12, Studer A807 VU MKII Open Reel Network Switch: AFTERDARK. PROJECT CLAYX BUFFALO BS-GS2016 CASCADE X GIESEMANN OCXO BLACK MODERNIZE EDITION x Farad Super3 LPS Dealer: UpTone Audio, Gustard, Farad Power Supply, Cybershaft, Thixar, DELA Link to comment
Mouna Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Anyone interested....I am selling a After Dark Giesemann double crown clock for Ether Regen 75 Ohm, with LPS from AfterDark, 1 AfterDark BNC Clock cable and EtherRegen 75 Ohm for a reasonable price in Europe.... Mjw21a 1 Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 You will make their new owner a happy man ! I have my ER with AD double crown between my olandra Antipodes cx and ex and just added a cheap China BG7BTL with Oscilloscope Inc clock to the other ER before the Antipodes cx 2 days ago ... my system never sounded as good as it does now. Will be great if you can list the $ for each component and this total package here .. I may be tempted to grab them 😅 Cheers. Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
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