Jeff Dorgay & TONEAudio Declare War on CA

[Jud]

1 hour ago, sandyk said:

Jud

 There is a big difference between revealing the information to someone else for advice , e.g. a legal representative, and posting it in a forum for perhaps many thousands to see and make judgement, and perhaps result in a financial loss to one of those involved, perhaps via sales revenue.

 If the dispute is serious enough, that's what the Court system is for.

 You only need to look at the replies in this thread to see the many varied opinions.

 If it's O.K. to post the content of emails, where there is no specific statement requiring the recipient to keep the contents private, then is it O.K. to also publish the contents of mail without the permission of the sender ?

 I am not just talking about the USA either.

As far as I am concerned there are moral issues here as well.

 

 

Alex

 

 

Hi Alex - You are of course right that there are moral/ethical issues regarding confidentiality of correspondence.  But I think one might find a better case for moral issues than to keep threats and bullying a private matter.

[vmartell22]

This is the first time I see thread - so I am replying based on the first post - there are 15 more pages, which I haven't read, so apologies if there are points already made, repeated info, etc. And of course, apologies for my English as Lingua Franca (ELF).

 

1) Mr. Computer Audiophile is on the right here - Mr. Jeff Dorgay does not seem to understand the technology. It reminds me of 

 

https://slashdot.org/story/06/03/27/135221/misconfigured-webserver-threats-to-call-fbi

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/24/tuttle_centos/

 

2) Lots of thin skin in this industry - calling Mr. Computer Audiophile the  "A" word was uncalled for. But I guess is to be expected - Either the guy has tunnel vision and only was scanning for the words "OK, I'll take it down". OR, he has simply no understanding of the technologies...

 

But that degenerated into name calling pretty fast and for no reason... now on to read the rest of the thread.

 

v

 

 

[kumakuma]

44 minutes ago, phototristan said:

 

Whaaaa. What whiner. Sounds like something you should go crying to your mommy about. 

 

I did!

 

Here's what she sent back:

 

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Hi Tom,

 

Thanks for sending over that link. Too funny.

 

That photo guy really needs to get a life. Why on earth did he spend so much time writing so much about something he doesn't understand?

 

Maybe he needs a girlfriend. Jennifer from high school is back in town. Her mom said that she left Steve. Let me if your friend is interested.

 

BTW, are you and Alice still coming for dinner on Wednesday?

 

Your dad got steaks from Costco and a new Class D amp that he wants you to listen to. He's really enjoying those mpg3 thingees you put on his computer last time you were over.

 

Also, I hereby give you permission to post this to your BBS in case that man from Australia asks if you have permission to share my email.

 

Love,

 

Mom

 

 

[AudioDoctor]

This thread is very entertaining.

[AudioDoctor]

@phototristan

 

You may find this link extra useful.

 

https://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671027034

[phototristan]

4 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

@phototristan

 

You may find this link extra useful.

 

https://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671027034

 

LOL.  I used to work with a guy who bragged that he read that book 3 times. He was a total wanker. 

 

[sandyk]

12 minutes ago, Jud said:

Hi Alex - You are of course right that there are moral/ethical issues regarding confidentiality of correspondence

 

 But apparently not with U.S. Politics ?

[Jud]

1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

You nailed it. Ask John how much ass kidding he did. Tremendous amount. 

 

Get real. 

 

You’re proving a point but not the one you think you’re proving. 

 

I thought folks proposing some ulterior motive were being conspiracy theorists. With these continued ludicrous attacks, one has to wonder.

[Fluffytime]

13 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

 

I did!

 

Here's what she sent back:

 

 

 

Haha, this is pure gold!

[asdf1000]

3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Yes, CA publishes an exact bit perfect copy of what Tone Audio pushes out through syndication. 

 

We use it’s syndicated feed exactly how it’s designed to be used. 

 

Some sites provide just the title while others provide a summary. Tone provides the entire thing. 

 

3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

The link is always there. We want to drive traffic to the original article. Everyone wins that way. 

 

This is the bizarre thing - why doesn't Tone amend things now so that his site provides just title and then he can have more traffic to his site ? That should have been the first reaction. At least a chat with his website person/s as has been suggested by others.

 

Does he not want more site traffic?

[Jud]

Just now, sandyk said:

 

 But apparently not with U.S. Politics ?

 

Staying well away from that, my friend, particularly today.

[Fluffytime]

6 hours ago, Milt99 said:

Jeff D. used to post on SHF generally that a new edition of his webzine was available but also in response to reviews on his site.

I responded once to a new gear listing of device isolators, basically pucks of sorbothane with some kind of shiny metal.

The price listed was really expensive like in the thousands.

 

I posted that I thought for the price these pucks, customer were getting bent over.

No swearing, calling their mag a fake, nothing just about the picks.

 

Well, he ripped me a new one, MF'er the whole 9 yards. I was attacking his credibility and the credibility of site.

He also informed that the price on site was incorrect and that the pucks were only several hundred dollars.

This guy can put M. Lavorgna to shame

 

I tried to sincerely apologize and say that I never meant to call into question anything about his site.

Afterall, it wasn't even a review.

I think he told me shove my apology or something like that.

Sheesh.

 

Yeah, I remember when Dorgay used to regularily post on Hoffman's forum. He'd have these kind of meltdowns on at least a weekly basis. I also remember him being caught in out right lies on several occasions.

 

The man has zero credibility.

 

 

[Audiophile Neuroscience]

24 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

He's really enjoying those mpg3 thingees you put on his computer last time you were over.

 

KK at least get your Dad some non lossy files

 

 

24 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

Also, I hereby give you permission to post this to your BBS in case that man from Australia asks if you have permission to share my email.

 

A wise woman your Mom. She knows that you should be considerate of others' feelings, even Australians ! She taught you well ?

[Audiophile Neuroscience]

41 minutes ago, Em2016 said:

 

 

This is the bizarre thing - why doesn't Tone amend things now so that his site provides just title and then he can have more traffic to his site ? That should have been the first reaction. At least a chat with his website person/s as has been suggested by others.

 

Does he not want more site traffic?

 

Best that I can figure its all about site traffic and the related benefits. Even in abridged form he may not want any RSS feed appearing on a site that may ultimately attract the viewer into further exploring the host site rather than click the link to his site to access the full article. IOW his perception may not be that of a win/win situation but more of a win/lose situation in his mind (just speculation on my part).

 

Not an excuse for his meltdown or threats and I'm not endorsing the concept that you can control who subscribes. If you put it out there its out there. Hence a polite *request* in the form of Hey, as a professional courtesy and favour would you mind taking down my RSS feed....would have been the order of the day.

[vmartell22]

20 hours ago, crenca said:

 

Because he wants to aggregate Audiophile content in one place - his place, so that he drives eyeballs to his service (he of course $benefits$). Because he likes the color purple.  

 

The more interesting question is why are your scratching Jeff's back?  

 

 

 

Oh dude - not cool

Chris ( if Chris doesn't mind to be called, well, Chris... if he does, will go back to Mr. Computer Audiophile) provides a great service... plus, I don't think the money is that big, if any... 

 

v

[Fluffytime]

Dorgay doesn't do "polite".

[crenca]

4 minutes ago, vmartell22 said:

 

Oh dude - not cool

Chris ( if Chris doesn't mind to be called, well, Chris... if he does, will go back to Mr. Computer Audiophile) provides a great service... plus, I don't think the money is that big, if any... 

 

v

 

I don't follow "not cool".  We seem to be in agreement...

[Audiophile Neuroscience]

3 minutes ago, Fluffytime said:

Dorgay doesn't do "polite".

 

Which goes to show you the 'let's get tough' approach is not always the best.

[Fluffytime]

1 minute ago, Audiophile Neuroscience said:

 

Which goes to show you the 'let's get tough' approach is not always the best.

 

Indeed it does.

[Audiophile Neuroscience]

Just now, Fluffytime said:

 

Indeed it does.

 

Sometimes its better to have fluffy times ?

[Fluffytime]

3 minutes ago, Audiophile Neuroscience said:

 

Sometimes its better to have fluffy times ?

 

Preach!

[wgscott]

On 7/15/2018 at 7:22 PM, wgscott said:

There is something about this hobby that sure brings out the psychos in whole herds and droves.   

 

I probably should have just left it with this.

[asdf1000]

38 minutes ago, Audiophile Neuroscience said:

 

Best that I can figure its all about site traffic and the related benefits. Even in abridged form he may not want any RSS feed appearing on a site that may ultimately attract the viewer into further exploring the host site rather than click the link to his site to access the full article. IOW his perception may not be that of a win/win situation but more of a win/lose situation in his mind (just speculation on my part).

 

Not an excuse for his meltdown or threats and I'm not endorsing the concept that you can control who subscribes. If you put it out there its out there. Hence a polite *request* in the form of Hey, as a professional courtesy and favour would you mind taking down my RSS feed....would have been the order of the day.

 

Definitely possible.

 

I know the MQA thing was brought up as a joke. But is it possible Tone is pro-MQA and Tone know's that Chris is more critical of MQA, hence Tone just wants zero links between CA Forum and Tone? Even if the link is to increase Tone site traffic, Tone just wants NO links to CA Forum for this reason?

 

Who knows. None of it makes sense anyway.

 

 

 

[Allan F]

2 hours ago, kumakuma said:

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What whiner. Sounds like something you should go crying to your mommy about. 

I did!

Here's what she sent back:

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That photo guy really needs to get a life. Why on earth did he spend so much time writing so much about something he doesn't understand?

 

Maybe he needs a girlfriend. Jennifer from high school is back in town. Her mom said that she left Steve. Let me if your friend is interested.

 

 

Great reply! You should ask your mom to post regularly. She is both insightful and entertaining.

[firedog]

4 hours ago, Audiophile Neuroscience said:

 

Chris, why would Darko want his RSS not displayed on CA. Is it the same reasoning as JD? It's not how politely they asked, but why they asked, is my question.

They don't want the entire article displayed, because they want the click to their site.