mikicasellas Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Guys, Im about to pull the trigger on a SR4T to power a JCAT XE adding a DXP-1A5DSC Have anyone tried the New Neotech UPOCC copper cable that PH is delivering now compared with the Ghent DC-7N16C Neotech UPOCC 7N Copper 16AWG DC(JSSG360) Cable ? ER + PH DR7T - TAIKO Server + PH DR7T ( HQPOs + ROON ) JCAT XE USB - Lampizator Baltic 4 - D-Athena preamp - K- EX-M7 amp - PMC Twenty5 26 Link to comment
Marcin_gps Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 1:41 AM, mikicasellas said: Guys, Im about to pull the trigger on a SR4T to power a JCAT XE adding a DXP-1A5DSC Have anyone tried the New Neotech UPOCC copper cable that PH is delivering now compared with the Ghent DC-7N16C Neotech UPOCC 7N Copper 16AWG DC(JSSG360) Cable ? The neotech UPOCC is nice - we use it for internal connections in the Optimo 3 Duo PSU. mikicasellas 1 JPLAY & JCAT Founder Link to comment
Dev Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/5/2020 at 4:41 PM, mikicasellas said: Guys, Im about to pull the trigger on a SR4T to power a JCAT XE adding a DXP-1A5DSC Have anyone tried the New Neotech UPOCC copper cable that PH is delivering now compared with the Ghent DC-7N16C Neotech UPOCC 7N Copper 16AWG DC(JSSG360) Cable ? 15 hours ago, Marcin_gps said: The neotech UPOCC is nice - we use it for internal connections in the Optimo 3 Duo PSU. Is this the solid core with Teflon insulation ? Link to comment
Popular Post Blackmorec Posted May 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 1:41 AM, mikicasellas said: Guys, Im about to pull the trigger on a SR4T to power a JCAT XE adding a DXP-1A5DSC Have anyone tried the New Neotech UPOCC copper cable that PH is delivering now compared with the Ghent DC-7N16C Neotech UPOCC 7N Copper 16AWG DC(JSSG360) Cable ? What’s the difference between the 2 cables? Does the “new” apply to Neotech ie. a new Neotech UPOCC cable, or to PH as in a new PH cable made from Neotech UPOCC? Is the PH cable JSSG360 shielded or a simple twisted pair? I’ve not tried any PH cable but have compared Neotech UPOCC twisted pair to a Ghent Neotech JSSG360 cable and the latter is superior, due entirely to the shielding. I should also add that I’ve compared the Ghent UPOCC JSSG360 to one of Nenon’s Mundorf Silver/Gold JSSG360 designs and the latter is in a different league regarding SQ and resolution. To put that into the right context, the Ghent cable is capable of producing exceptional results....enough to satisfy even the most demanding audiophile. mikicasellas and beautiful music 2 Link to comment
Marcin_gps Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Dev said: Is this the solid core with Teflon insulation ? Yes JPLAY & JCAT Founder Link to comment
sahmen Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Blackmorec said: What’s the difference between the 2 cables? Does the “new” apply to Neotech ie. a new Neotech UPOCC cable, or to PH as in a new PH cable made from Neotech UPOCC? Is the PH cable JSSG360 shielded or a simple twisted pair? I’ve not tried any PH cable but have compared Neotech UPOCC twisted pair to a Ghent Neotech JSSG360 cable and the latter is superior, due entirely to the shielding. I should also add that I’ve compared the Ghent UPOCC JSSG360 to one of Nenon’s Mundorf Silver/Gold JSSG360 designs and the latter is in a different league regarding SQ and resolution. To put that into the right context, the Ghent cable is capable of producing exceptional results....enough to satisfy even the most demanding audiophile. Okay, I'm a little confused about your comparison of the Ghent to Nenon's cables. Which one of them would be ideal for my PH SR4T? I have already ordered the Ghent audio version. Are you saying that Nenon's Mundorf Silver/Gold version would sound even better than the Ghent audio version? Link to comment
Iving Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I made my own DC/ATX etc cables from Mundorf Silver/Gold for an SR7T - see recent post on SR7 thread here if interested. I haven't heard Ghent alternatives; however, Mundorfs probably beat them hands down based on: 1. material = silver-gold vs. copper 2. consistent experience of @Nenon 3. and others e.g. @austinpop on the "novel" thread. The Mundorf wire is more expensive than made-up Ghents. Mine are still cooking but what I hear is phenomenal - admittedly part of several simultaneous upgrades inc. the SR7T itself. sahmen 1 Link to comment
sahmen Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Iving said: I made my own Mundorfs for an SR7T. See recent post on SR7 thread if interested. I haven't heard Ghent alts. but Mundorfs prob. beat them hands down based on material = silver-gold vs. copper - plus various input from @Nenon and also others e.g. @austinpop on the "novel" thread. The Mundorf wire is more expensive than made-up Ghents. Mine are still cooking but what I hear is phenomenal - admittedly part of several simult. upgrades. Thanks, but that also sounds a bit complicated, especially the DIY part. My question is: what might be the simplest way for someone like me, with almost zero DIY expertise, to get my hands on a Mundorf for my SR4T? Link to comment
Iving Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, sahmen said: Thanks, but that also sounds a bit complicated, especially the DIY part. My question is: what might be the simplest way for someone like me, with almost zero DIY expertise, to get my hands on a Mundorf for my SR4T? Sure - understood - these are very much DIY and experience helps. Maybe @Nenon might make some for you on negotiated terms. I don't speak for him - just know that he's sold DC cables before - I think! [Mine are a bit engineering-overkill.] Link to comment
Iving Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, sahmen said: Thanks, but that also sounds a bit complicated, especially the DIY part. My question is: what might be the simplest way for someone like me, with almost zero DIY expertise, to get my hands on a Mundorf for my SR4T? You have ruled out the in-house PH cables? @austinpop has first hand experience. Link to comment
sahmen Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Iving said: You have ruled out the in-house PH cables? @austinpop has first hand experience. No I did nor rule any out. I actually ordered the PH silver dc cable option along with my SR4T, before realizing, upon reading posts on this site, that that stock PH silver dc cable might not always sound the best for my purposes. That is when I decided to order the Ghent Audio version. I seem to be accumulating the DC cables, but I might soon order the SR5T too, when it becomes available, so I figure it is important that I get the DC cable part right. Btw, I have contacted @Nenon too, to see what he thinks. Thanks Iving 1 Link to comment
Jeremy Anderson Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 On 9/21/2019 at 11:18 AM, str-1 said: Before going for either SR or Beeswax I’ll will of course properly evaluate the Furutech with both the SR4 and my Farad Super3, and I’ll post something about that in the next week or so. Apologies if I missed it -- did you post your impressions of these two yet? I'm considering either an SR4T or a Super3 and would appreciate the notes of someone who has tried both. Link to comment
Popular Post str-1 Posted May 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Jeremy Anderson said: Apologies if I missed it -- did you post your impressions of these two yet? I'm considering either an SR4T or a Super3 and would appreciate the notes of someone who has tried both. Sorry, I forgot all about that. I did try Furutech fuses in both, but have gone back to the stock fuses. As for comparing the SR4 to the Farad, I found the Farad to be a little brighter and more dynamic with the Chord M Scaler, but the Farad was delivering 15v with up to 3a while the SR4 max’d out at 12v 2.5a. Most people feel the M Scaler does better with 15v. I now have a SR4T-19, which beats both SR4 and Farad powering the M Scaler - subjectively less noise, tighter bass, more dynamic and generally more authoritative and in control. Apmusson and Jeremy Anderson 1 1 Zenith SE > USPCB (5v off) > tX-USBultra 9V (SR4) > Sablon Reserva Elite USB > M Scaler > WAVE Stream bnc > DAVE > Prion4/Lazuli Reference > Utopia/LCD-4/HE1000se Link to comment
HeeBroG Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Hi str-1, Is the SR4T-19 19v? If so how do you step down to 15v for M scaler? Jeremy Anderson 1 PH SR7 > MacMini+Uptone MMK Mod > Audirvana 3.2 > re-clocked D-LInk switch/LPS1.1 > sMS-200Ultra/LPS1.2 > tX-USBUltra/PH SR7 > Chord BluDave > Focal Utopia(Norne Silver) or Voxativ 9.87/ Stereo REL G1 Mk II Link to comment
Popular Post str-1 Posted May 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, HeeBroG said: Hi str-1, Is the SR4T-19 19v? If so how do you step down to 15v for M scaler? It’s a selectable voltage from 9v/12v/15v/19 (see photos) HeeBroG and Jeremy Anderson 2 Zenith SE > USPCB (5v off) > tX-USBultra 9V (SR4) > Sablon Reserva Elite USB > M Scaler > WAVE Stream bnc > DAVE > Prion4/Lazuli Reference > Utopia/LCD-4/HE1000se Link to comment
R1200CL Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 1:07 PM, str-1 said: It’s a selectable voltage from 9v/12v/15v/19 (see photos) What is the difference between -05 -12 and -19 versions. I think you covered the -19 version. The SR4ST-05 in the silver anodised extrusion currently costs £400. The SR4BT-05 in the black anodised extrusion currently costs £412. The SR4ST-12 in the silver anodised extrusion currently costs £400. The SR4BT-12 in the black anodised extrusion currently costs £412. The SR4ST-19 in the silver anodised extrusion currently costs £420. The SR4BT-19 in the black anodised extrusion currently costs £432. Link to comment
str-1 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 5 hours ago, R1200CL said: What is the difference between -05 -12 and -19 versions. I think you covered the -19 version. The SR4ST-05 in the silver anodised extrusion currently costs £400. The SR4BT-05 in the black anodised extrusion currently costs £412. The SR4ST-12 in the silver anodised extrusion currently costs £400. The SR4BT-12 in the black anodised extrusion currently costs £412. The SR4ST-19 in the silver anodised extrusion currently costs £420. The SR4BT-19 in the black anodised extrusion currently costs £432. It is better explained on the standard SR4 page https://www.paulhynesdesign.com/sr4 R1200CL 1 Zenith SE > USPCB (5v off) > tX-USBultra 9V (SR4) > Sablon Reserva Elite USB > M Scaler > WAVE Stream bnc > DAVE > Prion4/Lazuli Reference > Utopia/LCD-4/HE1000se Link to comment
Oepsie Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Yay!! My SR4T arrived today!! Looking forward to hearing it with my sms-200 :) With the upooc cable option. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
sahmen Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Oepsie said: Yay!! My SR4T arrived today!! Looking forward to hearing it with my sms-200 With the upooc cable option. Was it part of the April batch? I've been told that mine, which is part of the May batch, will actually arrive at some point in June. Just checking to make sure everything checks out about the way the production and shipping calendar is meant to behave. Thanks Link to comment
Oepsie Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, sahmen said: Was it part of the April batch? I've been told that mine, which is part of the May batch, will actually arrive at some point in June. Just checking to make sure everything checks out about the way the production and shipping calendar is meant to behave. Thanks Yes, it was part of the April batch. Ordered in February. I’m already happy with it. It has great speed and attack combined with finesse in details. sahmen 1 Link to comment
MikePid Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I ordered mine mid-April, and I received a response that I’m in the end-of-May batch which should be ready in the next couple of weeks. I can hardly wait. I plan to power my EtherREGEN with it. Link to comment
shahed99 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 9:19 AM, sahmen said: No I did nor rule any out. I actually ordered the PH silver dc cable option along with my SR4T, before realizing, upon reading posts on this site, that that stock PH silver dc cable might not always sound the best for my purposes. That is when I decided to order the Ghent Audio version. I seem to be accumulating the DC cables, but I might soon order the SR5T too, when it becomes available, so I figure it is important that I get the DC cable part right. Btw, I have contacted @Nenon too, to see what he thinks. Thanks @sahmen Did you receive your PH silver DC cable? If so, how does it sound compare to your Ghent? Link to comment
sahmen Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 hours ago, shahed99 said: @sahmen Did you receive your PH silver DC cable? If so, how does it sound compare to your Ghent? @shahed99 My SR4T is going to be shipped with the May batch, so I'm expecting to receive it in about a couple of weeks from now, or thereabouts, along with the silver DC cable. I do not have all the pieces in hand yet, but when I do, I shall post my impressions. Link to comment
ASRMichael Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Don't forget the mains cable powering the LPS, for me it's just as important. Something like Furutech DPS 4.1 is amazing. You can buy it off the reel. Link to comment
sahmen Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 6 hours ago, ASRMichael said: Don't forget the mains cable powering the LPS, for me it's just as important. Something like Furutech DPS 4.1 is amazing. You can buy it off the reel. @ASRMichael Thanks, but could you elaborate a bit on what (or whom) you're referring to as "the reel"? Link to comment
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