A novel way to massively improve the SQ of computer audio streaming

[d_elm]

@austinpop, I am wondering if using sMS-200ultra->Lush->Codex would be a significant step down from your setup with two reclockers.

[austinpop]

5 hours ago, d_elm said:

@austinpop, I am wondering if using sMS-200ultra->Lush->Codex would be a significant step down from your setup with two reclockers.

 

The Lush cable is a good cable, but it does not substitute for components like the tX-USBultra or the ISO-Regen. Not sure what you're asking?

[d_elm]

15 minutes ago, austinpop said:

 

The Lush cable is a good cable, but it does not substitute for components like the tX-USBultra or the ISO-Regen. Not sure what you're asking?

Thank you as my question is answered. I will plan on purchasing a tx-USBhubEX and clock it from the sMS-200ultra.

[Cornan]

I think I have my first word clock trial option.

 

I am going to connect the Brooklyn DAC word clock out to my Luckit BluWave board which will be a simple and cheap way to see how it turns out. ?

 

 

As seen on the board there is two uBNC sockets. One for 22.5792MHz (J7) and for 24.576MHz (J6).

However, do anyone here knows where to find good and short 75ohm clock cables with BNC to uBNC?

[Cornan]

I have found this 75ohm coaxial cable that can be fitted with BNC and uBNC and are available in 15cm lenght. Any good?

 

https://www.google.se/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ebay.com/itm/BNC-male-75ohm-to-1-0-2-3-DIN-plug-right-angle-RG179-SDI-pigtail-75-15cm-500cm-/152080879542&ved=0ahUKEwjX4uOi3f_XAhWjBZoKHVsXDP4QjjgIJDAA&usg=AOvVaw06GtWYQhsBnI-npd2fR4Gc

 

[mozes]

7 minutes ago, Cornan said:

I have found this 75ohm coaxial cable that can be fitted with BNC and uBNC and are available in 15cm lenght. Any good?

 

https://www.google.se/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ebay.com/itm/BNC-male-75ohm-to-1-0-2-3-DIN-plug-right-angle-RG179-SDI-pigtail-75-15cm-500cm-/152080879542&ved=0ahUKEwjX4uOi3f_XAhWjBZoKHVsXDP4QjjgIJDAA&usg=AOvVaw06GtWYQhsBnI-npd2fR4Gc

 

Sorry can’t help you in this area, good luck with your adventure

[Cornan]

2 hours ago, mozes said:

Sorry can’t help you in this area, good luck with your adventure

 

Thanks anyway Moussa! As far as I see it word clock cables is just normal coaxial cables, so I guess a little common sense is enough to find a good one. I will start with the one I found in 15cm. If it works good I will take the next step and special order the optimal one. ?

[savjam]

On 1/5/2017 at 5:29 PM, gstew said:

 

 

Could someone tell me if internet sharing (wireless bridge) on a MAC OS is equivalent to the bridging/direct connection?

[Cornan]

12 hours ago, savjam said:

Could someone tell me if internet sharing (wireless bridge) on a MAC OS is equivalent to the bridging/direct connection?

 

Well as far as I see it a wireless bridge in general (both iOS and Windows) is equivalent, with the difference that one is wireless and the other is wired.

[R1200CL]

21 hours ago, Cornan said:

 

Thanks anyway Moussa! As far as I see it word clock cables is just normal coaxial cables, so I guess a little common sense is enough to find a good one. I will start with the one I found in 15cm. If it works good I will take the next step and special order the optimal one. ?

 

Why not email Ghent ?

You should add JSSG. Clock cables are more sensitive than females ?

[Cornan]

33 minutes ago, R1200CL said:

 

Why not email Ghent ?

You should add JSSG. Clock cables are more sensitive than females ?

 

I have already ordered.my trial cable from a local shop. Expecting it to arrive tomorrow. If the clock path turns out better than expected I will surely order a better cable with JSSG from either Ghent or ATL Hi-Fi. ?

[marce]

Use a standard 75 Ohm co-ax cable (the one you have bought looks perfect for the job) for the clock, don't add anything to it clocks are sensitive, just a basic co-ax and a controlled impedance line. It is a clock line and its return, don't mess about with it.

[Cornan]

59 minutes ago, marce said:

Use a standard 75 Ohm co-ax cable (the one you have bought looks perfect for the job) for the clock, don't add anything to it clocks are sensitive, just a basic co-ax and a controlled impedance line. It is a clock line and its return, don't mess about with it.

 

Thanks marce! ? Unfortunately the U.FL sockets on the BluWave board is 50 ohms, so I ordered a similar 50 ohm coaxial cable with SMA to U.FL (actually used for wifi antennas) plus a SMA to BNC male adapter for my initial clock trial. I know I can do a much better cable, but I just wanted to get something quick for my initial trial.

 

This is the one I ordered in 15cm plus BNC male adapter.

 

[marce]

If you can get one made up go for that, they will be tested and you will no that the connections are done correctly, and for the intended use the connectors must be terminated correctly, any mismatch will play havoc with the signal integrity.

[Cornan]

35 minutes ago, marce said:

If you can get one made up go for that, they will be tested and you will no that the connections are done correctly, and for the intended use the connectors must be terminated correctly, any mismatch will play havoc with the signal integrity.

 

Thanks, I will as soon as I have tried how the trial approach works out. 

 

However, today I got a bit mind blown by the KEF LS50 wireless speakers at a local hifi shop. It really got me thinking about where I am heading! ?

[mozes]

6 minutes ago, Cornan said:

 

Thanks, I will as soon as I have tried how the trial approach works out. 

 

However, today I got a bit mind blown by the KEF LS50 wireless speakers at a local hifi shop. It really got me thinking about where I am heading! ?

I listened to these speakers and they were impressive for their size and simplicity. It makes you think, do we really need all those long chains to enjoy music?

[Johnseye]

8 minutes ago, Cornan said:

 

Thanks, I will as soon as I have tried how the trial approach works out. 

 

However, today I got a bit mind blown by the KEF LS50 wireless speakers at a local hifi shop. It really got me thinking about where I am heading! ?

 

Just now, mozes said:

I listened to these speakers and they were impressive for their size and simplicity. It makes you think, do we really need all those long chains to enjoy music?

 

$500 off the black ones at Music Direct.

 

https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers/KEF-LS50-Mini-Monitor-Bookshelf-Speakers

 

Very tempting.

[Cornan]

Just now, mozes said:

I listened to these speakers and they were impressive for their size and simplicity. It makes you think, do we really need all those long chains to enjoy music?

 

Exactly!I have already started to figure out what to keep and what to sell! ?

[Cornan]

4 minutes ago, Johnseye said:

 

 

$500 off the black ones at Music Direct.

 

https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers/KEF-LS50-Mini-Monitor-Bookshelf-Speakers

 

Very tempting.

 

Indeed, but those are not the wireless LS50 which sounds much much better! ? I would prefer the red colour though.

[mozes]

41 minutes ago, Cornan said:

 

Indeed, but those are not the wireless LS50 which sounds much much better! ? I would prefer the red colour though.

It is their amps that are matched to the drivers that make the difference

[Cornan]

9 minutes ago, mozes said:

It is their amps that are matched to the drivers that make the difference

 

Yes, plus the DSP settings for optimal placement & sweet spot! Built-in streamer and Tidal client. I am extremely tempted! ?

[ElviaCaprice]

4 hours ago, mozes said:

I listened to these speakers and they were impressive for their size and simplicity. It makes you think, do we really need all those long chains to enjoy music?

Really??  It doesn't get any simpler than Server =>DAC=>Speakers.  I doubt the wireless LS50 could even mop the floor near an sCLK-EX system (can't say for sure since I've never heard the LS50).  I've never found an all in one system (same brand purchase) to be as good as separates.

[mozes]

2 hours ago, ElviaCaprice said:

Really??  It doesn't get any simpler than Server =>DAC=>Speakers.  I doubt the wireless LS50 could even mop the floor near an sCLK-EX system (can't say for sure since I've never heard the LS50).  I've never found an all in one system (same brand purchase) to be as good as separates.

Of course not at the sCLk level, but still very enjoyable if you stream Tidal as you only need the speakers.

[asdf1000]

4 hours ago, mozes said:

do we really need all those long chains to enjoy music?

 

Absolutely not (in my opinion only). No 'need', definitely not to enjoy the music. I could seriously enjoy the music with just my Macbook > direct USB cable > Peachtree Nova 125se > LS50's (passive). 

 

The addiction we all suffer from results from when you tweak the chain and tweak (an addition or subtraction) that makes you enjoy the music even more. Then another thing gets tweaked and you enjoy it more again. 

 

And so down the rabbit hole we go lol.

 

2 hours ago, ElviaCaprice said:

I've never found an all in one system (same brand purchase) to be as good as separates.

 

As they say, there's no such thing as a free lunch. There's always trade-offs with the all-in-one approach, just as there are always trade-offs with adding more pasta to the spaghetti solution approach.

 

It's always a constant juggling act between trade-offs. That's the fun of it all though !  lol

 

 

[ElviaCaprice]

5 hours ago, Em2016 said:

As they say, there's no such thing as a free lunch. There's always trade-offs with the all-in-one approach, just as there are always trade-offs with adding more pasta to the spaghetti solution approach.

 

It's always a constant juggling act between trade-offs. That's the fun of it all though !  lol

 

 

 

Sorry, but I find this response complete nonsense.  There doesn't have to be any trade offs.  Just system synergy with simplicity.