The EtherREGEN thread for various network, cable, power experiences and experiments

[Stevem324]

13 minutes ago, R1200CL said:

Two. One for oM. One for EtherRegen.

 

This is multi mode. You may like to standardize on single mode. Yellow cable with blue connectors. The modules is more expensive. It’s something you have to decide. 
 

 

Stay away from it. There is no reason to pay 10 times more. 
Use money on good DC cables. (JSSG360). 
 

Can you give a recommendation for a transreceiver?  I don't know a thing about transreceivers so I'm looking for recommnedations.  I don't know why a single mode is better than a multi mode.  Any recommendations for an optical cable?

[MasterWarzombie]

@R1200CL

I followed your previous advice.
Two days ago I received a Belden 1303E CAT6A Ethernet cable (JSSG360) to put it between my etherregen output B and my streamer

I also received to connect between my roon nucleus and my Keces P8 a Gotham GAC-4/1 11301 UltraPro Star Quad DC (JSSG360) cable.
I hesitated with the Neotech UPOCC 7N Copper 16AWG DC (JSSG360).

Your valuable opinion on the last two cables?

[PYP]

19 minutes ago, Stevem324 said:

Can you give a recommendation for a transreceiver?  I don't know a thing about transreceivers so I'm looking for recommnedations.  I don't know why a single mode is better than a multi mode.  Any recommendations for an optical cable?

I use these multimode:  https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U77VPX2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

with this cable:  https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T5796DQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

I don't have the oM deluxe, just the oM, but this combo should work fine with both oM and eR.

[MasterWarzombie]

I read that @Superdaddo not advise to put an ethernet filter between the output B of the etherregen and the audio streamer.
After several tries and tests, I had the opposite effect. My sound is definitely better on my test playlist with my SOtM ISO CAT 6 filter.
configuration. I don't explain why !

ER B> Belden 1303E CAT6A Ethernet cable (JSSG360)> SOtm Iso CAT 6 filter> SOtM dCBL-CAT6 HG cable 20 cm> Streamer SOtM 200 ultra Neo.

[Stevem324]

2 hours ago, PYP said:

I use these multimode:  https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U77VPX2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

with this cable:  https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T5796DQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

I don't have the oM deluxe, just the oM, but this combo should work fine with both oM and eR.

Thank you!

[PYP]

16 minutes ago, Stevem324 said:

Thank you!

there are helpful videos if you have never used SFP (I hadn't and watched a few):

 

 

 

[Stevem324]

Just watched it, very helpful.  Thanks again!

[Stevem324]

4 hours ago, PYP said:

I use these multimode:  https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U77VPX2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

with this cable:  https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T5796DQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

I don't have the oM deluxe, just the oM, but this combo should work fine with both oM and eR.

@PYPI just ordered the oM deluxe, and the transreceivers and cables that you recommended.  I also ordered the LPS-1.2 to power the oM.  I'm hoping that this optical input to my ER will make a noticeable improvement in my streaming SQ.  Thanks for your help!

[PYP]

28 minutes ago, Stevem324 said:

@PYPI just ordered the oM deluxe, and the transreceivers and cables that you recommended.  I also ordered the LPS-1.2 to power the oM.  I'm hoping that this optical input to my ER will make a noticeable improvement in my streaming SQ.  Thanks for your help!

Congratulations!  It does take some time to thoroughly break in and settle in.  Hope it works out for you.  Let us know how it goes.   

[R1200CL]

5 hours ago, Stevem324 said:

Can you give a recommendation for a transreceiver?

Search my posts with Finisar or mode or 1421, you should find. 

[R1200CL]

5 hours ago, MasterWarzombie said:

Your valuable opinion on the last two cables?

Link ? Gent ? 

[MasterWarzombie]

5 hours ago, R1200CL said:

Link ? Gent ? 

https://www.ghentaudio.com/part/dc-gac4.html

 

https://www.ghentaudio.com/part/dc-7n16c.html

[LowMidHigh]

1 hour ago, MasterWarzombie said:

https://www.ghentaudio.com/part/dc-gac4.html

 

https://www.ghentaudio.com/part/dc-7n16c.html

 

 

What do you believing you accomplish with those cords? (Other than having the exact length you may require).

 

[R1200CL]

10 minutes ago, LowMidHigh said:

 

 

What do you believing you accomplish with those cords? (Other than having the exact length you may require).

 

There is no belief. It’s proven to enhance SQ. Quite a lot. Best cables around. Period. 

[LowMidHigh]

40 minutes ago, R1200CL said:

There is no belief. It’s proven to enhance SQ. Quite a lot. Best cables around. Period. 

You come across as a religious zealot.

 

Providing either a working theory as to why those cable can make a difference, or demonstrating it with measurements or blind tests, would have addressed my question more pointedly. 

[MasterWarzombie]

4 hours ago, LowMidHigh said:

 

 

What do you believing you accomplish with those cords? (Other than having the exact length you may require).

 

First, I am actually looking to have the exact length and the correct connector (2.5 or 2.1). I just hope the build quality is serious. For the SQ, if the cable does not affect it and it is rather neutral. it's OK for me .

Which cable are you using?

thank you :)

 

Laurent

[LowMidHigh]

25 minutes ago, MasterWarzombie said:

First, I am actually looking to have the exact length and the correct connector (2.5 or 2.1). I just hope the build quality is serious. For the SQ, if the cable does not affect it and it is rather neutral. it's OK for me .

Which cable are you using?

thank you :)

 

Laurent

 

The build quality is as good as it gets. I needed a custom DC cable with a USB end, and Ghent delivered a flawless product.

Nothing fancy; just very clean, fitted with reliable components and a fat Canare cord. 

 

Most times, I use the enclosed DC cables since it's all hidden at the back of my rack. I suppose that if cosmetics were a priority, I'd get my cables custom made with Ghent. His certainly look better than any generic OEM cables. 

 

Sound wise, other than anecdotal testimonies, there's nothing to suggest that high-end that DC cables can make a difference, 

[MarkusBarkus]

4 hours ago, R1200CL said:

There is no belief. It’s proven to enhance SQ. Quite a lot. Best cables around. Period. 

I think I missed the post with the DC cable shoot-out that has Ghent as the clear winner. Can you please re-post it? 

[MartinT]

18 minutes ago, LowMidHigh said:

 

Sound wise, other than anecdotal testimonies, there's nothing to suggest that high-end that DC cables can make a difference, 

 

Anecdotally, if you truly think a good DC cable doesn't make a difference over the cheap ones supplied, then either your system lacks resolution or you're not listening very carefully.

 

They do make a difference.  Try listening to one against the other.

[soares]

27 minutes ago, MartinT said:

 

Anecdotally, if you truly think a good DC cable doesn't make a difference over the cheap ones supplied, then either your system lacks resolution or you're not listening very carefully.

 

They do make a difference.  Try listening to one against the other.

yes Martin. Totally agree. They really make a difference! Perhaps one year ago, I saw a good used deal  on AS for a DC cable from Sonore (apologies Alex). I did the upgrade from a Ghent (don’t remember the model) and I felt a difference. By curiosity, I asked the former owner if he too had made an upgrade. He confirmed that he was using an audio sensibility silver cable and was very satisfied with the differences felt. So I decided to take the risk and I am now a happy owner of 2 of those cables and considering a 3rd one. 

[Mouna]

28 minutes ago, soares said:

yes Martin. Totally agree. They really make a difference! Perhaps one year ago, I saw a good used deal  on AS for a DC cable from Sonore (apologies Alex). I did the upgrade from a Ghent (don’t remember the model) and I felt a difference. By curiosity, I asked the former owner if he too had made an upgrade. He confirmed that he was using an audio sensibility silver cable and was very satisfied with the differences felt. So I decided to take the risk and I am now a happy owner of 2 of those cables and considering a 3rd one. 

Hi Soares, can you paste a link for the DC cable from audio sensibility can't find a DC cable on their website....

thank you!

[R1200CL]

7 hours ago, LowMidHigh said:

Providing either a working theory as to why those cable can make a difference, or demonstrating it with measurements or blind tests, would have addressed my question more pointedly. 

Well, you can start with this post:

And continue with this search. 
https://audiophilestyle.com/search/?&q=Quad&author=JohnSwenson&search_and_or=and&sortby=relevancy

 

You can also study the theory behind JSSG360 (or just JSSG). Basically it’s a Faraday Cage on a cable. 
Makes a lot of sense to me.

 

Uptone has some unique DC cables as they can use lower AWG, since Alex has access to special version og Oyade DC plugs. Only available for JS-2 customers. 

 

[soares]

2 hours ago, Mouna said:

Hi Soares, can you paste a link for the DC cable from audio sensibility can't find a DC cable on their website....

thank you!

https://audiosensibility.com/blog/products-2/power-cables-2/#!/Signature-Silver-DC-Cable/p/102469015/category=2595837
Here it is!

Cheers, 

Jorge

[Savolax]

3 hours ago, MartinT said:

 

Anecdotally, if you truly think a good DC cable doesn't make a difference over the cheap ones supplied, then either your system lacks resolution or you're not listening very carefully.

 

They do make a difference.  Try listening to one against the other.

Quoted for "truth". In the beginning of my PC-audio craziness when I "only" had JCAT USB Card on a basic PC, later on powered with UpTone LPS-1.2.

As astoundingly substantial effect LPS-1.2 had on sound quality powering the JCAT USB card I was almost as astoundingly surprised what Canare 4S8 did when replacing it with stock LPS-1.2 cable. 

Recently I introduced Audio Sensibility Signature Silver DC cables replacing Farad Level 2 cable (from Farad3 to Singxer SU-1 sCLK-EX modified) and the one powering EtherRegen also, which was Ghent Neotech UPOCC cable. 

As layman, I have no idea why DC cable would make difference but on every DC cable "upgrade" I have done as another anecdotal evidence it just stuns me of the impact when the cable has been properly "burnt-in". Yes, that would be another "ridiculous anecdotal statement", but if trying some new cable on a system, please give it time few days before critical listening.

 

Usually one could add YMMV on such posts but then again, if one were to add, say JCAT USB Card on his/her PC and power with LPS-1.2, and not hearing any difference on DC cables I would wonder why one is here on the forum in the first place, respectfully. I find the difference so obvious on them.

And this is coming from a guy that had enjoyed LPS-1.2 with its stock DC cable intially and found it amazing, but it just keeps getting better... 😈

[MasterWarzombie]

3 hours ago, soares said:

https://audiosensibility.com/blog/products-2/power-cables-2/#!/Signature-Silver-DC-Cable/p/102469015/category=2595837
Here it is!

Cheers, 

Jorge

I have two copper cables at Audiosensibility connecting my JS2 UPtone with my clock and my Sotm switch. The Bleden cables supplied with the JS2 are too long .... yet very qualitative.

Is the Silver version brightness which I don't want? it is to possibly connect my Sotm streamer