Everything sounds the same

[esldude]

2 hours ago, lucretius said:

 

Was this the $20 bill?

 

 

Could be just looking at it.  

[esldude]

5 hours ago, pkane2001 said:

Getting back on topic, can anyone suggest a better power cord to use with my $5 clock radio?

 

Nordost Red Dawn would seem an obvious choice.   Helps you get up and start the day better. 

 

https://nordost.com/products/power-cords/leif/red-dawn-power-cord-spec.php

[lucretius]

8 minutes ago, esldude said:

Could be just looking at it.  

 

That would explain a lot. Watch out for signs of projectile vomiting or bed levitation.

[pkane2001]

17 minutes ago, esldude said:

Nordost Red Dawn would seem an obvious choice.   Helps you get up and start the day better. 

 

https://nordost.com/products/power-cords/leif/red-dawn-power-cord-spec.php

 

So you wouldn't recommend Nordost ODIN 2 with 99.999999% oxygen free copper? All for under $17k for 1.25m length and speed of propagation at 88% of speed of light? I want my clock radio to sound just like my main system!

 

https://blinkhighend.com/shop/cables/nordost-cables/nordost-power-cords/nordost-norse-2-heimdall-power-cord/

 

[esldude]

7 minutes ago, pkane2001 said:

 

So you wouldn't recommend Nordost ODIN 2 with 99.999999% oxygen free copper? All for under $17k for 1.25m length and speed of propagation at 88% of speed of light? I want my clock radio to sound just like my main system!

 

https://blinkhighend.com/shop/cables/nordost-cables/nordost-power-cords/nordost-norse-2-heimdall-power-cord/

 

No, not for a $5 clock radio.  That would be appropriate with a $20 clock radio.  It is smart to keep your expenditures in proportion to not run out of resources prior to maximizing the benefits.

[Rt66indierock]

5 hours ago, marce said:

Being an Audiophile is no laughing matter, one cannot joke, the road to audio nirvana is a hard and unforgiving road, not only do you have to fret at the horrendous sound your system produces, but constantly be upgrading to get the next day and night improvement, you have to turn your back on conventional physics and be solid in your beliefs, especially in cables, whilst those clever sods use their measurements, knowledge and physics to pull you down...

Oh how hard is the path I have chosen.

 

I've always had a hard time with this. I consider myself into high performance audio not an audiophile. When I was shown how to convert  a Dynaco St-70 to triode mode in the early seventies and William Z Johnson modified a Dynaco preamp for me in 1974  I knew how to find happiness and have been happy ever since. 

[Richard Dale]

13 minutes ago, esldude said:

No, not for a $5 clock radio.  That would be appropriate with a $20 clock radio.  It is smart to keep your expenditures in proportion to not run out of resources prior to maximizing the benefits.

Why would you spend $20 and a clock radio when it sounds just the same as a $5 clock radio as per the subject of this thread? Sadly I will have to mark your post as off-topic.

[Nordkapp]

1 hour ago, mansr said:

That strikes me as an inefficient place to collect salt.

No, no, no. It's "the best". This is my life. And then i come on CA and get more it. Haha. 

[rando]

3 pages and not a single reference rebuttal using molten salt in water.  The only cooking with salt analogy relevant to this conversation.  

 

 

[Nordkapp]

I love this thread. All the other serious ones suck. 

[marce]

4 hours ago, Jud said:

 

I think this is kind of a key thing.  Folks get the impression "the other side" must not have any fun, because their experience is that the folks on "that side" are always cross and arguing.  But it really isn't that way at all for 99.9% of the folks who come here.

 

How to keep on having fun and not let the .1% who can't live without arguing set the tone is something we ought to be conscious of when commenting.  

 

In my experience people love learning, but do not enjoy being mocked or told they're ignorant.  So if you intend to enlighten or to learn, your effectiveness does depend on your tone.  Maybe sarcasm or acerbity is easy, but I think making an effort to engage at the level of friends sharing a hobby is well worthwhile.

I do... Just getting cynical, quite often people ask what might be the cause of perceived differences, that's usually when the fun starts, one technical comment usually draws the the subjective trolls out from under their bridges with the usual, system not up to it, hearing not up to it etc. etc. ?

[Albrecht]

2 minutes ago, marce said:

I do... Just getting cynical, quite often people ask what might be the cause of perceived differences, that's usually when the fun starts, one technical comment usually draws the the subjective trolls out from under their bridges with the usual, system not up to it, hearing not up to it etc. etc. ?

On an audiophile website it is impossible to have subjective trolls. There is no *real* objectivity of consequence when the goal is to enhance the experience of a recorded musical event.

 

[esldude]

Just now, Albrecht said:

On an audiophile website it is impossible to have subjective trolls. There is no *real* objectivity of consequence when the goal is to enhance the experience of a recorded musical event.

 

What an ironic statement!  ?

[marce]

My wife, in the living room instantly noticed when I upgraded our salt without telling her, she said her egg sarnie tasted more real, with smoother yolk and clearer whites... 

[marce]

3 minutes ago, Albrecht said:

On an audiophile website it is impossible to have subjective trolls. There is no *real* objectivity of consequence when the goal is to enhance the experience of a recorded musical event.

 

I rest my case your honour... ?

[pkane2001]

8 minutes ago, Albrecht said:

On an audiophile website it is impossible to have subjective trolls. There is no *real* objectivity of consequence when the goal is to enhance the experience of a recorded musical event.

 

Abandon hope all ye who enter here

[Albrecht]

4 minutes ago, pkane2001 said:

 

Abandon hope all ye who enter here

sadly: it is reason that has been abandoned here

[Richard Dale]

4 minutes ago, Albrecht said:

sadly: it is reason that has been abandoned here

What is your position on salt then?

[Ralf11]

12 hours ago, firedog said:

I'm normally fine with discussion and even meandering,

 

* * *

 

vegetarian.

 

 

 

vegans are the nazis of the food world 

 

- Anthony Bourdain

[89reksal]

Is there some kind of "Idiotic Topic of the Day" contest going on I'm not aware of. Getting sick of checking  recent activity and being bombarded with these inane topics.

[christopher3393]

This should be a sticky:

 

[Aristotle], On Trolling

 

That trolling is a shameful thing, and that no one of sense would accept to be called ‘troll’, all are agreed; but what trolling is, and how many its species are, and whether there is an excellence of the troll, is unclear. And indeed trolling is said in many ways; for some call ‘troll’ anyone who is abusive on the internet, but this is only the disagreeable person, or in newspaper comments the angry old man. And the one who disagrees loudly on the blog on each occasion is a lover of controversy, or an attention-seeker. And none of these is the troll, or perhaps some are of a mixed type; for there is no art in what they do. (Whether it is possible to troll one’s own blog is unclear; for the one who poses divisive questions seems only to seek controversy, and to do so openly; and this is not trolling but rather a kind of clickbait.)

 

Well then, the troll in the proper sense is one who speaks to a community and as being part of the community; only he is not part of it, but opposed. And the community has some good in common, and this the troll must know, and what things promote and destroy it: for he seeks to destroy. Hence no one would troll the remotest Mysian, or even know how, but rather a Republican trolls a Democratic blog and a Democrat Republicans. And he destroys the thread by disputing what is known to be true, or abusing what is recognised as admirable; or he creates fear about a small problem, as if it were large, or treats a necessary matter as small; or he speaks abuse while claiming to be a friend. And in general the troll says what is false but sounds like the truth—or rather he does not quite say it, but rather something very close to it which is true, or partly true, or best of all merely asks a simple question about the evidence for climate change. Hence the modes of trolling are many: the concern-troll, the one who ‘sees the other side’, the polite inquirer into the obvious. For the perfected troll has no need of rudeness or abuse, or even of fallacy (this belongs rather to sophistic or eristic, and requires making an argument): he only makes a suggestion or indication [semainein ˆ ].

 

And this is how the troll generates strife. For what he indicates is known to be false or harmful or ignorant; but he does not say that thing, but rather something close. In this way he retains the possibility of denial, and the skilled troll is always surprised and hurt, or seems to be, when the others take his comments up. And so he sets the community apart from each other, and introduces strife where before there was scarcely disagreement. For each person who takes up what was said grasps only a part of it, and insists on that, and is annoyed when others affirm something different. For some indeed see that the troll trolls, and are harsh; but others think that they ought to be more gentle, and others again do not even see the falsity, but grasp the truth which is nearby and insist that the troll ‘has a decent point’. And this is excess of charity and the death of the board.

 

The end of the troll is not in his own speech, then, but in that of the others, when they take up his comments in as many ways as bring regret. For there is excess or deficiency in each response, and then more again in each response to that; and every responder chooses his own words lightly but demands exactitude from the rest, and while correcting the others he introduces something new and questionable. And so resentment is built up, and the slighting begins; and the strife is the work of the troll but the origin is not clear.

 

Trolls differ primarily in their for-the-sake-of-which: at any rate some troll for amusement, and a few for profit, but most as enemies and members of a faction. (Hence the troll is thought to be weak, and one who sits in pyjamas: for the advantage to the faction is not worth much, and a courageous enemy would fight in some other way.) And of these the amusement-troll is in a way the worst, for he aims only at his own gratification. But this one is also the least harmful; for he is careless and easy to discern, coming close to being a lover of controversy. And since trolling is in each case a matter of choice, no one is ever a troll involuntarily or by accident, but only an idiot who has posted in the wrong thread.

 

One might wonder whether there is an art of trolling and an excellence; and indeed some say that Socrates was a troll, and so that the good man also trolls. And this is in fact what the troll claims: that he is a gadfly and beneficial, and without him to ‘stir up’ the thread it would become dull and unintelligent. But this is incorrect. For Socrates was speaking frankly when he told the Athenians to care for their souls, rather than money and honors, and showed that they lacked knowledge. And this is not trolling but the contrary, exhortation and truth-telling— even if the citizens get very annoyed. For annoyance results from many kinds of speech; and the peculiarity [idion] of the troll is not annoyance or controversy in general, but confusion and strife among a community who really agree. And since the one who does this on every occasion must act with knowledge, and on the basis of practice and care, he has a kind of art—just as one might speak of the art of the hack or of the grifter.

 

But it is not really an art, being without any function; and it belongs not to the serious person to be a troll but to the one who lacks education. What the troll is, and in what way he trolls and for what, has now been said. And it is clear from this that there can be trolling outside the internet. For every community of speakers holds certain goods in common, and with them the conversation [dialegesthai] as an end in itself; and the troll is one who seeks to damage it from within. So a questioner can troll a political meeting, and academics troll each other in committees when they are bored; and a newspaper columnist may be a profit-troll towards a whole city. But blogs and boards and forums and comments sections are where the troll dwells primarily and for the most part. For these are weak communities, and anyone may be part of them: and so their good is easily destroyed. Hence the saying, ‘Trolls are not to be fed’. But though everyone knows this, everyone does it; for the desire to be right on the internet is natural and present to all.

 

translated by Rachel Barney,  University of Toronto

[Ralf11]

I thought the negative comments about mansr's cooking, baking, salt choices etc. were terribly unfair.

 

AFAIK, he lives in England.

 

Freakin' England !!

 

That is a very low bar to food.  In fact, they don't really even eat food (except for colonial imports).

 

And, yes, of course I have proof.  Let us start with the ancient Romans:

 

"Poor Britons, there is some good in them after all -- they produced an oyster."
Saullust, Roman historian, referring to the oyster beds in East Anglia.

[christopher3393]

9 minutes ago, lasker98 said:

Is there some kind of "Idiotic Topic of the Day" contest going on I'm not aware of. Getting sick of checking  recent activity and being bombarded with these inane topics.

 

Sorry about that. Maybe its a reflection of a far wider and deeper forum inanity --no, even wider: audiophile inanity. Some of it is meant as satire, reflecting upon this greater inanity. The problem is the diversity and strong division over what that inanity is.

[Ralf11]

Then there is a very on point quote about salt:

 

“The British cook, for her iniquities, is a foolish woman who should be turned into a pillar of salt which she never knows how to use.”
Oscar Wilde, 'Dinners and Dishes' (1885)

[Ralf11]

Can we blame the English for the British Empire?  Yes, of course.  and yet...

 

“I'll bet what motivated the British to colonize so much of the world is that they were just looking for a decent meal."
Martha Harrison

 

 

“The British Empire was created as a by-product of generations of desperate Englishmen roaming the world in search of a decent meal.”
Bill Marsano