Audiophile Power Cables

[marce]

5 minutes ago, jabbr said:

 

I’m sorry to hear that. You don’t, however, perseverate about the importance of solder connections for SQ seemingly above all else, so Im wondering what component in solder causes this seeming hallucination?

Solder joints............ 38 years of inspection, manual and machine soldering, SMD in the 80's, lead free 2006, creating footprints, solder joint reliability, tin whiskers, vibration testing, ballistic testing, IPC-7351 b to c arguments, my life has been plagued by the dam things. Still they are the most reliable method of securing components to a PCB, used in EVERYTHING, billions of solder joints formed every day, very few fail. They work for microwave with no noticeable signal  degradation,  they work everything else, in audio if the joint has been created properly, I wouldn't even think about it...

The one good point is I was one of the statistics that promoted the realisation that breathing in flux was not good, my main exposure was working with a production line in the early 80's, the girls soldering were breathing it in all day, many had problems later. I'm glad things have improved, modern production lines are almost sterile environments.

[Ralf11]

Sorry to hear that, marce 

[jabbr]

4 hours ago, marce said:

Solder joints............ 38 years of inspection, manual and machine soldering, SMD in the 80's, lead free 2006, creating footprints, solder joint reliability, tin whiskers, vibration testing, ballistic testing, IPC-7351 b to c arguments, my life has been plagued by the dam things. Still they are the most reliable method of securing components to a PCB, used in EVERYTHING, billions of solder joints formed every day, very few fail. They work for microwave with no noticeable signal  degradation,  they work everything else, in audio if the joint has been created properly, I wouldn't even think about it...

 

Of course! I solder & have a home reflow oven. That said this thread is about AC power cables! I was responding to the suggestion that unsoldered connections are significant responsible for SQ degradation. I mean I also have computers that have been running for >10 years which PCI-e cards and ATX supplies and Ethernet cables! These work perfectly well.  The idea that soldering connectors THAT AREN’T MEANT to be soldered eg XLR cables etc is a hallucination. 

[Ralf11]

maybe it's ringing in the heads of some people that causes the "effect" to persist long after any stimulus?

[STC]

19 hours ago, marce said:

Interesting, it is the flux that gets you, I have messed up lungs from rosin fluxs in the days before extraction.

 

I don't recall seeing lead but there was other elements which he finally traced to his soldering material. I think I got his full report somewhere and will ask his permission if its okay to disclose.

[fas42]

On 8/30/2019 at 10:17 AM, sandyk said:

 

 NASTY ! 

 

 

Nothing to get fussed about, Alex ... it's their loss ...

 

It's always remarkable how 'intelligent' people can glitch, every time, when asked to consider some aspect of how a system or mechanism works - and when concerning themselves with a setup where the overall integrity is crucial, this 'flaw' is often most obvious.

 

Habit, and the fact that everyone has "always done it that way!" is a powerful driving force - takes a lot to overcome such ... I take little joy in listening to ambitious rigs of other people; the irritating anomalies in the sound from lack of attention to detail builds up as an annoyance factor - and I'm mighty glad when it's over ...

[wdw]

reduced to $9000....list $30,000

 

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9giib-ansuz-acoustics-dtc-power-cord-ac-cables

[George Hincapie]

5 minutes ago, wdw said:

reduced to $9000....list $30,000

 

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9giib-ansuz-acoustics-dtc-power-cord-ac-cables

 

SMH.

[Kal Rubinson]

7 minutes ago, wdw said:

reduced to $9000....list $30,000

 

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9giib-ansuz-acoustics-dtc-power-cord-ac-cables

I will flag it on CamelCamel to notify me when it gets to $19.99.

[marce]

12 hours ago, wdw said:

reduced to $9000....list $30,000

 

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9giib-ansuz-acoustics-dtc-power-cord-ac-cables

And we wonder why there are so few younger people getting into audiophilia...

[Ralf11]

We need a thread on Ethernet cables.  I saw one for $15k recently, so it has to be great...

[musicguy]

anyone use the new shunyata research venom digital v14 with nr filters?  Ive been told this in only for computer devices.  Like a network server,  not for dacs, ht processors?

 

musicguy

 

 

[Ralf11]

[wdw]

1 hour ago, Ralf11 said:

 

size seems about right but may need a few Ted Denney Synergistic Fuses 

[Ralf11]

it is immersed in a salt water bath for... uh, cooling

[jabbr]

6 hours ago, musicguy said:

anyone use the new shunyata research venom digital v14 with nr filters?  Ive been told this in only for computer devices.  Like a network server,  not for dacs, ht processors?

 

musicguy

 

 

You should only use optical AC cables with network servers. Corning only.

[Kimo]

On 9/3/2019 at 6:36 PM, wdw said:

reduced to $9000....list $30,000

 

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9giib-ansuz-acoustics-dtc-power-cord-ac-cables

 

I checked out the website for this company.  It looks like their product line specifically was constructed to antagonize a few people around here.

 

https://ansuz-acoustics.com/

 

 

[wgscott]

4 minutes ago, Kimo said:

 

I checked out the website for this company.  It looks like their product line specifically was constructed to antagonize a few people around here.

 

https://ansuz-acoustics.com/

 

 

 

Heh.

 

Quote

All components in an audio system vibrate and resonate. Analogue and digital transports generates heavy mechanical vibrations due to rotations in motors and platters. Amplifiers are subject to 50/60 Hz resonances coursed by the current driving the power supply. Power distributors and power conditioners also suffer from the mains frequencies. DAC’s, phono stages, streamers and other low current electronics also create internal vibrations and are even more sensitive to external tremors and pulsations. The loudspeakers are the source of the most profound vibrations.
Even the smallest vibration has a huge effect on the electronic components and circuitry boards thus it will generate new unwanted energy that will resonate backwards and forwards in the system.

The Ansuz Darkz are efficient devices to ground all components in a High End audio system. They are mechanically tuned to allow the vibrations a path out of the component and to keep varies components isolates individually. The sonically improvement is undeniably and addictive.

The Ansuz Darkz is available in tree versions and in four quality levels.

 

[Kimo]

Oh, there is more.  

https://blinkhighend.com/shop/accessories/ansuz-darkz-resonance-control/

 

 

 

DECOUPLING – CREATING TRANQUILITY

The more powerful equipment, the harder mechanical parts in a HIFI unit work, and mechanical motion will always result in noise and vibration. With a new and innovative construction principle ensures DARKZ Decouplers to lead noise and vibration effectively away from the speakers and other HIFI devices – the effect of DARKZ can be both heard and felt. 

 

 

• DESCRIPTION

Product Description

ANSUZ DARKZ RESONANCE CONTROL PRICES.

•  Darkz A $280
• Darkz C $400
• Darkz D $700
• Darkz D-TC $900
• Darkz A Adjustable $320
• Darkz C Adjustable $440
• Darkz D2 Adjustable $760
• Darkz D-TC Adjustable $1,000
• Darkz A Cable Lifter $320
• Darkz C Cable Lifter $440
• Darkz D2 Cable Lifter $760
• Darkz D-TC Cable Lifter $1,000
• Darkz A Speaker Feet: 4,6 or 8mm screws, 2 sets $180
• Ceramic balls for Darkz $16/each

 

I find the speaker jumpers at 14K to be intriguing, though the tonearm cable also catches the eye.  Power cord looks to be a relative bargain.

 

PRICES

Ansuz D-TC prices vary depending on type and length.

• D-TC Mainz  power cord (1.0m)  $20,000.  Add $5,000 per additional meter.
• D-TC Signalz Analog Interconnect Pair (1.0m) $20,000. Add $5,000 per additional meter. (RCA or XLR)
• D-TC Signalz Tonearm Pair (1.25m) $20,000. Add $5,000 per additional meter. (RCA/RCA or DIN straight or angled/RCA)
• D-TC Digitalz Interconnect Digital (1.0m) $12,600. Add $6,300 per additional meter. (XLR or RCA/BNC)
• D-TC Digitalz Ethernet (1.0m) $5,600. Add $1,400 per additional meter.
• D-TC Digitalz USB (2.0m) $3,600.
• D-TC Speakz Speaker Cable pair (3.0m) $32,000. Add $8,000 per additional meter (Spades or Bananas).
• D-TC Jumperz  $14,400  (Spades to Banana)

 

[wdw]

7 hours ago, musicguy said:

anyone use the new shunyata research venom digital v14 with nr filters?  Ive been told this in only for computer devices.  Like a network server,  not for dacs, ht processors?

 

musicguy

 

 

 

have no truck with companies that have an unsubstantiated "founder myth"...ie: he worked on top secret gov. projects...a scientist...involved with the development of internet protocols...but with no stated resume.  

Would assume the claim to be a “scientist” requires some qualification.

IMO, they cycle through their product line far too frequently when considering the high entry price point without regard for their costumer's reasonable need too keep some of the value of the purchase whenever considering selling.  

[Hugo9000]

Bob Lazar ought to introduce a line of cables based on alien tech!  I wonder if he was the person behind the scenes who created those nano thimbles that the old MQA shill loved so dearly.  

 

Hey, anyone know what kind of cables they use to hook up those Scientology auditing devices?  Hmm.

[Ralf11]

1 hour ago, Hugo9000 said:

Hey, anyone know what kind of cables they use to hook up those Scientology auditing devices?  Hmm.

 

 

they use clear cables