AudioLinux and NUC Troubleshooting and Tuning

[BigAlMc]

I'm setting up three cron jobs:

 

robot_arm_insert_USB

 

auto_ram_save

 

robot_arm_remove_USB

 

😁

[marcoc1712]

On 12/10/2018 at 12:48 AM, bibo01 said:

It's part of Squeezelite-R2. He told me that he also did a special version of C-3PO where it is possible to change dimension of input/output buffer and chunk.

You could use ALSA parameters for that OR Buffer size and USB profile in ASIO Drivers (in Windows), nothin special in Squeezelite-R2 (or squeezelite) here.

 

 

I wrote an early version of C-3PO (and Qobuz) plugin where is possible increase and decrease the TCP socket buffer size and/or the chunk size, emulating the above in a network connection (or even a direct connection if server and client run both on the same machine). The interesting thing is that the effect is exactly the same: when you increase the latency (delay) or increase the chunk size (reducing the cycles needed to accomplish a task) you destress the CPU and the sound gets smoother.  Don't know what the link between the two fact is

 

 

 

 

 

[austinpop]

54 minutes ago, marcoc1712 said:

You could use ALSA parameters for that OR Buffer size and USB profile in ASIO Drivers (in Windows), nothin special in Squeezelite-R2 (or squeezelite) here.

 

 

I wrote an early version of C-3PO (and Qobuz) plugin where is possible increase and decrease the TCP socket buffer size and/or the chunk size, emulating the above in a network connection (or even a direct connection if server and client run both on the same machine). The interesting thing is that the effect is exactly the same: when you increase the latency (delay) or increase the chunk size (reducing the cycles needed to accomplish a task) you destress the CPU and the sound gets smoother.  Don't know what the link between the two fact is

 

Marco, 

 

That is a fair point. I was helping somebody set up MPD, and it looks like there are buffers you can configure in mpd.conf too.

 

What you raise is an interesting possibility. Is there any way in Audiolinux to change the default ALSA buffers, so they apply to all music players - but more specifically, Roon Bridge?

[bobfa]

There are some hints here:

 

https://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/FramesPeriods

 

I have not read very far.  This is a old link so things may have been updated.

 

Here is another indicator.

 

https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/increasing-alsa_buffer-size-4175481111-print/

 

Got to love open source.  REcompile and test!!!

 

[mozes]

I want to edit the .mpdconf file to change the dac from 0 to 1.

I reached the file edit menu. I attached the screenshot. How do I open the .mpdconf file to edit it? I am pressing enter on it but nothing happens. Excuse my ignorance.

The sound is coming now from the aux output of the PC.

The DAC shows number 1 in AlsaMixer.

[jcn3]

27 minutes ago, mozes said:

I want to edit the .mpdconf file to change the dac from 0 to 1.

I reached the file edit menu. I attached the screenshot. How do I open the .mpdconf file to edit it? I am pressing enter on it but nothing happens. Excuse my ignorance.

The sound is coming now from the aux output of the PC.

The DAC shows number 1 in AlsaMixer.

 

did you click on edit (number 4 along the bottom)?

[mozes]

9 minutes ago, jcn3 said:

 

did you click on edit (number 4 along the bottom)?

Yes I tried clicking on 4 but nothing happens.

[LTG2010]

6 minutes ago, mozes said:

Yes I tried clicking on 4 but nothing happens.

If you use the root file editor, then click on edit it should open the file.

[mozes]

Just to clarify, the mouse doesn't work so I am using the cursor to move around the menu. I can't get the cursor to go down to the commands at the bottom of the screen. I tried Tab, but it also doesn't allow me to reach the bottom commands.

 

[LTG2010]

24 minutes ago, mozes said:

Just to clarify, the mouse doesn't work so I am using the cursor to move around the menu. I can't get the cursor to go down to the commands at the bottom of the screen. I tried Tab, but it also doesn't allow me to reach the bottom commands. 

 

Have you tried using WinSCP use the hostname audiolinux (or the new name if changed) user name: root ,password: audiolinux0. You can then edit all the files remotely with your keyboard in windows if not working in Linux.

[mozes]

3 minutes ago, LTG2010 said:

Have you tried using WinSCP use the hostname audiolinux (or the new name if changed) user name: root ,password: audiolinux0. You can then edit all the files remotely with your keyboard in windows if not working in Linux.

Thanks for the suggestion, I have not heard of this tool before. I will check it out

 

 

[mozes]

I finally managed to open the file and modify it by using the command nano. The music plays through the dac now.

 

Thanks for everyone

[tapatrick]

@hifi25nl with a network bridge on roonserver what would you suggest for the best rtirq.conf?

default is on Usb which  doesn’t seem make sense as usb is not used. 

 

RTIRQ_NAME_LIST="usb"

 

audiolinux@audiolinux ~]$ networkctl

IDX LINK             TYPE               OPERATIONAL SETUP     

  1 lo               loopback           carrier     unmanaged 

  2 bridge0          bridge             routable   configured

  3 eno1             ether              degraded   configured

  7 enp0s21f0u3      ether              degraded   configured

 

[hifi25nl]

You could try (if endpoint with roonbridge is connected to eno1, otherwise change to enp0s21f0u3)

RTIRQ_NAME_LIST="eno1"

[jcn3]

okay, guys, i could use your help . . . 

 

i've had great luck with AL so, far -- installed it on my nuc6i5 as an endpoint with roon rock running on a separate server.  the endpoint was recognized no problem and was able to stream.

 

this afternoon, i installed AL on my nuc 7i5 and configured it as a roon server.  got the server running and it sees all of my sonos zones, but it does not see my nuc6i5 running roonbridge

 

so here's what i've got:

 

roon endpoint:  nuc6i5 running roonbridge, static ip set to 192.168.0.99

 

 

roon server: nuc7i5 running roonserver, static ip set to 192.168.0.98

 

 

but can't see the endpoint in roon

 

 

any ideas?  anything in the bios settings that would make a difference?

 

thanks!

 

[greenleo]

On 1/22/2019 at 4:07 AM, zizione said:

Is there a SQ difference working from USB or SSD when ramroot is used ? I guess not, but to get confirmation...

 

Thanks

D.

 

use USB, RAMBoot and then detach it.  You can't detach an internal SSD easily.

[greenleo]

On 1/28/2019 at 10:27 AM, bobfa said:

anyone else seeing these messages when enabling ramroot?

 

==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: wd719x

==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: aic94xx

Don't worry, it said "Possibly" only.

[jcn3]

54 minutes ago, jcn3 said:

okay, guys, i could use your help . . . 

 

i've had great luck with AL so, far -- installed it on my nuc6i5 as an endpoint with roon rock running on a separate server.  the endpoint was recognized no problem and was able to stream.

 

this afternoon, i installed AL on my nuc 7i5 and configured it as a roon server.  got the server running and it sees all of my sonos zones, but it does not see my nuc6i5 running roonbridge

 

so here's what i've got:

 

roon endpoint:  nuc6i5 running roonbridge, static ip set to 192.168.0.99

 

 

roon server: nuc7i5 running roonserver, static ip set to 192.168.0.98

 

 

but can't see the endpoint in roon

 

 

any ideas?  anything in the bios settings that would make a difference?

 

thanks!

 

 

i figured it out -- was the unique_id issue.  deleted the unique_id file from the bridge and rebooted.  finally appeared.

[tapatrick]

On 12/9/2018 at 12:42 PM, afrancois said:

I'm using an AL NUC7i7DNHE as a server, so I don't need any audio devices enabled on the NUC.

While I had disabled audio over HDMI in the BIOS. HQPlayer and Roon continued recognizing the audio card.

The solution was to blacklist the device. Another credit to the Intel BIOS efficiency 😞

 

I created a file /etc/modprob.d/noHDMIaudio.conf

The file contains:

blacklist snd_hda_codec_hdmi
blacklist snd_hda_intel
blacklist snd_hda_codec
 

 

thanks @afrancois! I've been catching up on tweaks and blacklisting unused functions etc.. I found that this should be /etc/modprobe.d/noHDMIaudio.conf

[afrancois]

16 hours ago, tapatrick said:

thanks @afrancois! I've been catching up on tweaks and blacklisting unused functions etc.. I found that this should be /etc/modprobe.d/noHDMIaudio.conf

That's right. A typo of me.

[amolan]

On 2/2/2019 at 1:48 AM, jcn3 said:

 

i figured it out -- was the unique_id issue.  deleted the unique_id file from the bridge and rebooted.  finally appeared.

Hi,

 

Where did you get this unique_id ?

 

Thanks,

 

Alexandre.

[bobfa]

8 minutes ago, amolan said:

Hi,

 

Where did you get this unique_id ?

 

Thanks,

 

Alexandre.

This is a problem when the Roon folders are copied and you try to run two devices on the same network. Roon gets VERY confused!

 

Search for it on the forums. You shut down Roon and delete some stuff.  I would not do this on the server so you do not lose the database or anything by accident

 

[amolan]

15 hours ago, bobfa said:

This is a problem when the Roon folders are copied and you try to run two devices on the same network. Roon gets VERY confused!

 

Search for it on the forums. You shut down Roon and delete some stuff.  I would not do this on the server so you do not lose the database or anything by accident

 

Thanks for your feedback, I already fixed.

[austinpop]

@hifi25nl

 

Hi Piero,

 

Here is a new feature request for you to consider:

• auto-detect the DAC (ALSA device)
• auto-update the relevant conf file for Squeezelite, MPD, etc - for all enabled services
• implementation could be simple (boot-time only), or sophisticated (auto-sensing, plug & play)

One of the reasons AL is dead simple to use with Roon is that it does this automatically. For all other users, they have to learn how to edit conf files, and they have to do it every time they switch DACs.

[hifi25nl]

The simple solution would be to let choose the DAC when starting MPD, Squeezelite etc. 

I will think about this...