MQA Shill Steve Stone Provides a Good Laugh For a Friday...

[Brinkman Ship]

8 minutes ago, emcdade said:

To point out the ridiculousness of your nature.

 

Enjoy the music.

..should i ask again? If you don’t have an opinion on the topic at hand then stop about posters and posts.

 

you have been strongly rebuked by numerous posters on this thread...so you are a minority of one..see ya.

[Brinkman Ship]

15 minutes ago, emcdade said:

To point out the ridiculousness of your nature.

 

Enjoy the music.

10 posts...hmm...Which alter ego of which MQA shill are you? perhaps Steven Stone himself?

[Ralf11]

our new shill hates Class D and loves Lasagna

 

- Let's start a betting pool on how the account lasts...

[Brinkman Ship]

1 minute ago, Ralf11 said:

our new shill hates Class D and loves Lasagna

 

- Let's start a betting pool on how the account lasts...

LOL...you figure these shills would put more than a half hearted effort into their new accounts...this guy is mailing it in...

[emcdade]

3 hours ago, Brinkman Ship said:

10 posts...hmm...Which alter ego of which MQA shill are you? perhaps Steven Stone himself?

I know conspiracy theories are probably right up your alley, but I'm actually just a new member here.  I was surprised at the level of vitriol in your threads/posts and anything regarding MQA in general.  Just giving an outsiders perspective.  

[ARQuint]

I wasn't planning on returning to these fetid waters anytime soon, but emcdade's appearance on the forum (which I'm sure will be brief) was a breath of fresh air and I wanted to affirm, for him, that his read of the situation was spot- on.  Yes, the choleric response you got—"What are you doing here?"— tells you all you need to know. This thread (and several others) is not typical for Computer Audiophile, a megaphone for an unwelcoming and xenophobic subculture that has found a place to install itself. It began as a useful nidus for the critical consideration of a technology, but an increasingly assaultive tone has metastasized to attack those, like you, who are astounded by the sheer nastiness of many of the postings. Whether the topic is MQA itself or the devolution of the "discussion" into 14-year-old-boy-style  insults directed at manufacturers, audio writers, or other consumers—just look over the last week of postings for invective referencing excrement—the goal is to run you out of town. So, emcdade, don't feel you have to endure this for terribly long; your point has registered.

 

If you examine the postings of some of the most aggressive participants, you'll note that they haven't been members of CA for all that long and that the MQA-bashing threads are pretty much all they are interested in. In my view, Chris Connaker has a problem on his hands—again, the tenor of this thread isn't usual for the site as a whole—and if MQA, the business, has some significantly positive commercial news to reveal shortly, as Chris implies, it's only going to get worse.

 

[Brinkman Ship]

4 hours ago, ARQuint said:

I wasn't planning on returning to these fetid waters anytime soon, but emcdade's appearance on the forum (which I'm sure will be brief) was a breath of fresh air and I wanted to affirm, for him, that his read of the situation was spot- on.  Yes, the choleric response you got—"What are you doing here?"— tells you all you need to know. This thread (and several others) is not typical for Computer Audiophile, a megaphone for an unwelcoming and xenophobic subculture that has found a place to install itself. It began as a useful nidus for the critical consideration of a technology, but an increasingly assaultive tone has metastasized to attack those, like you, who are astounded by the sheer nastiness of many of the postings. Whether the topic is MQA itself or the devolution of the "discussion" into 14-year-old-boy-style  insults directed at manufacturers, audio writers, or other consumers—just look over the last week of postings for invective referencing excrement—the goal is to run you out of town. So, emcdade, don't feel you have to endure this for terribly long; your point has registered.

 

If you examine the postings of some of the most aggressive participants, you'll note that they haven't been members of CA for all that long and that the MQA-bashing threads are pretty much all they are interested in. In my view, Chris Connaker has a problem on his hands—again, the tenor of this thread isn't usual for the site as a whole—and if MQA, the business, has some significantly positive commercial news to reveal shortly, as Chris implies, it's only going to get worse.

 

You really have quite a nerve.

Xenophobic subculture? Where are you even coming up with this rubbish?

Really funny how you found a kindred spirit in emcdade. Really funny.  Well coordinated.
 

The fact is he has offered no opinion on MQA, and like other pseudo moderators
persisted on commenting  posters and posts. He was asked  why he was on the thread after

no posts concerning MQA were offered.

You sir will have a lot to answer for when your publication has it’s comeuppance..
 

Promoting a product that is a fabrication, that is destructive to the original source,
and has been exposed as a massive marketing lie has exposed the audio press once and for all.

 

CC has no problem, is it you and your ilk that have the problem.

And you don’t like it..your self righteous blather won’t help you.

[crenca]

4 hours ago, ARQuint said:

 In my view, Chris Connaker has a problem on his hands— if MQA, the business, has some significantly positive commercial news to reveal shortly, as Chris implies, it's only going to get worse.

 

 

You got it exactly backwards, to the extent that mqa has any success in marketing is to the extent that the consumer rejection of mqa drives traffic to this site.

 

The rest of your finger wagging post is not even worth addressing...

[Brinkman Ship]

2 minutes ago, crenca said:

 

You got it exactly backwards, to the extent that mqa has any success in marketing is to the extent that the consumer rejection of mqa drives traffic to this site.

 

The rest of your finger wagging post is not even worth addressing...

Nicely worded. File his post under SELF RIGHTEOUS BLATHER...

 

Give him credit for a nice little plot with the "newbiie" poster...

[ARQuint]

The "blather" part is an opinion you're entitled to.

But I assure you that I have no idea who emcdade is. That's pretty paranoid.

[Brinkman Ship]

44 minutes ago, ARQuint said:

The "blather" part is an opinion you're entitled to.

But I assure you that I have no idea who emcdade is. That's pretty paranoid.

Let me offer up another observation..re-reading your diatribe, it qualifies as a fantastical screed.

[firedog]

4 hours ago, Brinkman Ship said:

Nicely worded. File his post under SELF RIGHTEOUS BLATHER...

 

Give him credit for a nice little plot with the "newbiie" poster...

 

 

 

2 hours ago, ARQuint said:

The "blather" part is an opinion you're entitled to.

But I assure you that I have no idea who emcdade is. That's pretty paranoid.

I have to agree. Your constant accusations of conspiracy and fake user identities - with no supporting evidence- gets rather tiresome and adds nothing to the conversation.

[tmtomh]

6 minutes ago, firedog said:

 

 

I have to agree. Your constant accusations of conspiracy and fake user identities - with no supporting evidence- gets rather tiresome and adds nothing to the conversation.

 

I agree as well. It's beyond old.

[christopher3393]

15 hours ago, Brinkman Ship said:

LOL...you figure these shills would put more than a half hearted effort into their new accounts...this guy is mailing it in...

 

http://fairhedon.com/

[Norton]

 

[eclectic]

10 hours ago, ARQuint said:

I wasn't planning on returning to these fetid waters anytime soon, but emcdade's appearance on the forum (which I'm sure will be brief) was a breath of fresh air and I wanted to affirm, for him, that his read of the situation was spot- on.  Yes, the choleric response you got—"What are you doing here?"— tells you all you need to know. This thread (and several others) is not typical for Computer Audiophile, a megaphone for an unwelcoming and xenophobic subculture that has found a place to install itself. It began as a useful nidus for the critical consideration of a technology, but an increasingly assaultive tone has metastasized to attack those, like you, who are astounded by the sheer nastiness of many of the postings. Whether the topic is MQA itself or the devolution of the "discussion" into 14-year-old-boy-style  insults directed at manufacturers, audio writers, or other consumers—just look over the last week of postings for invective referencing excrement—the goal is to run you out of town. So, emcdade, don't feel you have to endure this for terribly long; your point has registered.

 

If you examine the postings of some of the most aggressive participants, you'll note that they haven't been members of CA for all that long and that the MQA-bashing threads are pretty much all they are interested in. In my view, Chris Connaker has a problem on his hands—again, the tenor of this thread isn't usual for the site as a whole—and if MQA, the business, has some significantly positive commercial news to reveal shortly, as Chris implies, it's only going to get worse.

 

 

What a disingenuous post Mr Quint.

 

You came to this thread and your arguments were comprehensively defeated. Colloquially, you were "torn a new one". Yes, some of the posters you encountered were robust in the counter arguments but to describe this as "a megaphone for an unwelcoming and xenophobic subculture" is frankly ridiculous. 

 

You still haven't grasped the reality of the current situation. Your role as a writer on TAS does not give you any extra kudos, any extra leeway to expect other posters to defer to your opinions. In fact your role makes anything you say less worthy of consideration or value. Your publication is damaged, severely damaged,  and your credibility along with that of all of your colleagues has suffered a massive hit. As noted by previous posters here, you have a lot of reflection to undertake. Surely the best way for you to regain any semblance of credibility is to do what you should have done a long time ago. Publish balanced and objective analysis of MQA.

[emcdade]

1 hour ago, Norton said:

 

Wow.  

 

Classic "projection".  I certainly didn't make an account here for dubious reasons, or to discuss MQA even.

 

Thanks for sharing that.  I'll be sure to block this guy and take any/all MQA discussion here with a giant grain of salt.

[beetlemania]

14 minutes ago, emcdade said:

take any/all MQA discussion here with a giant grain of salt

 

There is a *lot* of well-researched, well-reasoned, and cogent information in this thread. Very little of this is available at Stereophile and you won't read *any* of it in the pages of TAS.

[Ralf11]

It is true that this subculture is unwelcoming to MQA - if you will read you will see why.

 

It is also true that this subculture is  xenophobic towards new posters who immediately proselytize about the glories of MQA, fancy cables and other flotsam and jetsam that provide little or no benefit to SQ.  A review of the numerous fake posters who joined only to glorify and shill for, say MQA, will show you why.

 

 

[duxservit]

If the creators of MQA truly believe it will revolutionize music, they should just: (i) open source their implementation of the MQA process/algorithms (BSD or Apache license); (ii) provide free access to the IP around MQA.

 

 

[Ralf11]

Because:

 

 

[wdw]

ROON has finally released their Version 1.5 which offers the first unfold to MQA.  Think my system is somewhat discreet...dedicated line to a power groomer, then to mono-blocks, wired with Nordost to Magico Q3’s in a dedicated room.

Took a very familiar album...likely the first that came up in the ROON/TIDAL Masters list that I felt confident to make comparison as I have same album in the library;

“Looking For The Heart of Saturday Night” by Tom Waits.  IMHO, his best.  

After that album he was, to my ears, a mimic of a  street lamp drunkard,  betraying his extraordinary talent for jazz...again IMHO.

Nevertheless, with some careful attention to the A/B, and trying to compensate for the obvious volume boost to the MQA file, I thought I heard the elusive “temporal blurring” although it was neither apparent nor easy to hear.  

I am reminded of Jonesey, the signal man, headphones on, in the Hunt for Red October trying to identify the sonic signature of the elusive catapillar drive used by the the Soviets....”...wait a minute....wait...Ok, maybe I’ve got it....”

Nevertheless, nothing worth all this fuss.  

Perhaps this is why they, MQA, never allowed us, the unwashed, to share in the listening comparisons even if we made concerted effort to find out, as was my experience, shared by many, when at audio shows and asking them to play comparison tracks.  

This was always denied.

The whole thing is stinky.

No respect for the belligerent AS Quinty and Austin, the surly arrogant Brit, am sorely concerned with the same tone of the Audiophile media.  

Why are they just a Greek chorus for this very modest change to the musical signal when it is a wholesome change to the ownership of music.

Useful idiots?  Why this high level of aggression, cooperation and obedience?

As always, ROON is completely cool for this new update.

 

Best

[crenca]

3 hours ago, wdw said:

 

As always, ROON is completely cool for this new update.

 

Best

 

I give this update a thumbs down.  MQA is the "default" version behind which the real 16/44 is a drill down.  This means a minimum of two extra clicks.  It's easier to select the lossless version in the Tidal desktop app now 

[firedog]

3 hours ago, crenca said:

 

I give this update a thumbs down.  MQA is the "default" version behind which the real 16/44 is a drill down.  This means a minimum of two extra clicks.  It's easier to select the lossless version in the Tidal desktop app now 

The system in Roon has always been that a higher res version is automatically picked as the default; they regard MQA as higher res than redbook. You can change which album is seen as the primary, just as you could before. Not sure why it is a big deal other than that you are very annoyed by anything MQA. Don't add MQA versions to your library and you won't have them appearing as the default.

[asdf1000]

14 minutes ago, firedog said:

Don't add MQA versions to your library and you won't have them appearing as the default.

 

Problem solved.