MQA is Vaporware

[Ralf11]

4 hours ago, Lee Scoggins said:

 

So what?  This is just accurate reporting. CA is a hostile community to many.  Perhaps Chris thinks this brings out a more lively debate but the side effect of the hostility is that it scares off many experienced people.

 

You and others have attacked my character without knowing me or my intentions.  I don't see value in responding any more to your posts.

 

CA is a hostile community to uniformed dupes trying to promote things that add nothing.

 

I have yet to see any accurate reporting from you.

[rickca]

23 minutes ago, Shadders said:

Has Lee gone home ?

There's always another one coming along.

[Shadders]

2 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

 

CA is a hostile community to uniformed dupes trying to promote things that add nothing.

 

I have yet to see any accurate reporting from you.

Hi,

What type of uniform does Lee wear ?.

Regards,

Shadders.

[Ralf11]

30 minutes ago, Shadders said:

Has Lee gone home ?

 

I expect he has gone to yet another audio site to sell his wares.  Expect him to pop up on Audiogon, Asylum or anywhere people aren't wise to the clickbait yet.

[Ralf11]

6 minutes ago, Shadders said:

Hi,

What type of uniform does Lee wear ?.

Regards,

Shadders.

 

uninformed

 

my apologies

[mansr]

8 minutes ago, Shadders said:

What type of uniform does Lee wear ?

Confederate.

[daverich4]

10 minutes ago, mansr said:

Confederate.

 

“Even when I make a good faith attempt at responding in a respectful way on CA, the replies invariably include a personal attack.”

 

Seems pretty spot on to me. 

[Samuel T Cogley]

11 minutes ago, mansr said:

Confederate.

 

I was going to go with Shunyata polo shirt

 

Audiophile "journalism" hath its privileges, after all.

[Samuel T Cogley]

2 minutes ago, daverich4 said:

 

“Even when I make a good faith attempt at responding in a respectful way on CA, the replies invariably include a personal attack.”

 

Seems pretty spot on to me. 

 

Don't feel too sorry for Mr. Scoggins.  He has an agenda here as he's telling the Hoffmanites:

 

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Bet the OP is sorry he started this thread.

 

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Not at all, I am having fun. The anti-MQA dogma can be amazing at times.

 

[Don Hills]

3 minutes ago, daverich4 said:

 

“Even when I make a good faith attempt at responding in a respectful way on CA, the replies invariably include a personal attack.”

 

Seems pretty spot on to me. 

 

He should have been "respectful" from the beginning, then he wouldn't have to slowly and painfully earn his reputation back.

[daverich4]

3 minutes ago, Don Hills said:

 

He should have been "respectful" from the beginning, then he wouldn't have to slowly and painfully earn his reputation back.

 

I’m mostly a lurker on CA without an axe to grind one way or the other over MQA. The venom and immature taunts against anyone pro MQA are becoming really tedious and limit the number of threads here that are of any interest to me. The same anti MQA talking points have been made again and again and again and again, each time as if some fresh new perspective has been added to the discussion. I used to learn all kinds of valuable things here, most recently how to rip my 60 SACD’s to DSD files. I wish the MQA discussions could play a lessor role on CA. Pretty much all the questions have been asked and answered. 

[crenca]

4 minutes ago, daverich4 said:

 

I’m mostly a lurker on CA without an axe to grind one way or the other over MQA. The venom and immature taunts against anyone pro MQA are becoming really tedious and limit the number of threads here that are of any interest to me. The same anti MQA talking points have been made again and again and again and again, each time as if some fresh new perspective has been added to the discussion. I used to learn all kinds of valuable things here, most recently how to rip my 60 SACD’s to DSD files. I wish the MQA discussions could play a lessor role on CA. Pretty much all the questions have been asked and answered. 

 

 

Then don't read them!  Besides the debunking is actually on going so you're incorrect.  Also the complaint of immaturity falls flat. The immaturity has been mostly on the pro mqa side.  Their problem is the technical, market, and consumer realities are against them and so they claim personal when they run out of rhetoric...

[daverich4]

1 minute ago, crenca said:

 

 

Then don't read them!  Besides the debunking is actually on going so you're incorrect.  Also the complaint of immaturity falls flat. The immaturity has been mostly on the pro mqa side.  Their problem is the technical, market, and consumer realities are against them and so they claim personal when they run out of rhetoric...

 

Mostly I don’t. That’s the point I was trying to make. As anti MQA has taken over more and more space on CA there’s less here of interest to me. I suspect I’m not the only one that spends less time here than they used to because of it. As far as the childish taunts and name calling coming mostly from the pro MQA side, that isn’t even close to true. I don’t care enough to go back and count but if someone did and said it was 10 to 1 coming from the anti MQA folks I’d believe it. 

[crenca]

1 minute ago, daverich4 said:

 

Mostly I don’t. That’s the point I was trying to make. As anti MQA has taken over more and more space on CA there’s less here of interest to me. I suspect I’m not the only one that spends less time here than they used to because of it. As far as the childish taunts and name calling coming mostly from the pro MQA side, that isn’t even close to true. I don’t care enough to go back and count but if someone did and said it was 10 to 1 coming from the anti MQA folks I’d believe it. 

 

Well in a sense, your complaint strikes me as similar to those who complain about the political coverage in the months leading up to the presidential elections.   You're right, it is the big thing in the news right now as far as the audio world goes.  As you probably know by now in MQA is not just another audio product, rather it is an end-to-end format takeover attempt that fundamentally changes everything in the audio world, at least on the digital side.

[Samuel T Cogley]

5 minutes ago, daverich4 said:

 

Mostly I don’t. That’s the point I was trying to make. As anti MQA has taken over more and more space on CA there’s less here of interest to me. I suspect I’m not the only one that spends less time here than they used to because of it. As far as the childish taunts and name calling coming mostly from the pro MQA side, that isn’t even close to true. I don’t care enough to go back and count but if someone did and said it was 10 to 1 coming from the anti MQA folks I’d believe it. 

 

Do MQA threads hover around the top of the general section of the forum?  Yes.  Has discussion of MQA "taken over" CA?  Hardly.

 

You're not only reading the threads you seem to abhor, you're posting in them.  The majority of threads in the CA forum are not about MQA.  Just because the MQA threads are getting lots of action doesn't mean the other threads or forum sections have fallen silent.  I think @crenca's advice is spot on.  Avoid the MQA threads (this forum has a thread ignore feature) and you'll be happier.

[Don Hills]

28 minutes ago, daverich4 said:

...  As anti MQA has taken over more and more space on CA there’s less here of interest to me. ...

 

To add to what Samuel said, CA is not a zero sum game. It's not space limited. More posts on MQA doesn't have to mean less posts on other topics. If you're seeing fewer posts on other topics, it may be that the people who usually post on those other topics are presently posting on MQA topics instead. If you appreciate their wisdom on those other topics, why do you not appreciate their wisdom about MQA?

[Shadders]

44 minutes ago, daverich4 said:

 

Mostly I don’t. That’s the point I was trying to make. As anti MQA has taken over more and more space on CA there’s less here of interest to me. I suspect I’m not the only one that spends less time here than they used to because of it. As far as the childish taunts and name calling coming mostly from the pro MQA side, that isn’t even close to true. I don’t care enough to go back and count but if someone did and said it was 10 to 1 coming from the anti MQA folks I’d believe it. 

Hi,

I don't think that the responses to Lee Scoggins are that bad.

 

If you notice, he does not answer technical questions and responses, but provides technical statements, and will not discuss them. I have asked for his credentials (yesterday) and he has not responded. He has today, made derogatory comments on the other forum, about peoples credentials on this forum.

 

My interpretation is that he has been mildly trolling people on here, frustrating them by not responding to facts presented, which disprove MQA claims.

 

Regards,

Shadders.

[Lee Scoggins]

2 hours ago, Shadders said:

Has Lee gone home ?

 

I am around.  Just a busy day at work.  Did you miss me?

[Shadders]

Just now, Lee Scoggins said:

 

I am around.  Just a busy day at work.  Did you miss me?

Hi Lee,

Yes, i did miss you. It was getting boring.

Will you be partaking in winding up the locals ?

Regards,

Shadders.

[Lee Scoggins]

Just now, Shadders said:

Hi,

I don't think that the responses to Lee Scoggins are that bad.

 

If you notice, he does not answer technical questions and responses, but provides technical statements, and will not discuss them. I have asked for his credentials (yesterday) and he has not responded. He has today, made derogatory comments on the other forum, about peoples credentials on this forum.

 

My interpretation is that he has been mildly trolling people on here, frustrating them by not responding to facts presented, which disprove MQA claims.

 

Regards,

Shadders.

 

I am not answering some questions on the technical side as I want to do more research and get to some good questions to ask experts on both sides of the debate.

 

Do you have any suggestions?

[Ran]

5 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said:

Do you have any suggestions?

 

Speak with Mike @ Schiit, Mark @ AIX, John @ Benchmark, Bruno @ Mola-Mola and finally, you can reach out to mansr here at CA.

 

Good luck!

 

[Shadders]

Just now, Lee Scoggins said:

 

I am not answering some questions on the technical side as I want to do more research and get to some good questions to ask experts on both sides of the debate.

 

Do you have any suggestions?

Hi Lee,

Yes.

 

There are DSP forums on the internet, and they are frequented by industry experts and academics, who have a vast wealth of knowledge and experience. They will be able to provide an impartial response to your questions.

 

Regards,

Shadders.

[Lee Scoggins]

Just now, Ran said:

 

Speak with Mike @ Schiit, Mark @ AIX, John @ Benchmark, Bruno @ Mola-Mola and finally, you can reach out to mansr here at CA.

 

Good luck!

 

 

Mark and John are already on the list but will add the others.  Thanks.

[Lee Scoggins]

1 minute ago, Shadders said:

Hi Lee,

Yes.

 

There are DSP forums on the internet, and they are frequented by industry experts and academics, who have a vast wealth of knowledge and experience. They will be able to provide an impartial response to your questions.

 

Regards,

Shadders.

 

Thanks. Links?

[Shadders]

Just now, Lee Scoggins said:

 

Thanks. Links?

Hi Lee,

One forum i am aware of - and the site provides lots of free educational material :

https://www.dsprelated.com/forums

 

Others that are popular :

https://dsp.stackexchange.com/

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW/DIGITAL-SIGNAL-PROCESSING/td-p/2553427

 

Some forums expect people to have some level of technical capability - so you may get redirected.

 

Regards,

Shadders.