USB cable comparisons

[christoph]

8 minutes ago, matthias said:

 

Any comparison to an appreciated cheaper cable, maybe the original Lush?

Thanks

 

Matt

Another league. No compare, the FTA destroys the Lush, the Curious and even the LH 10G had no chance. The Wireworld Diamond even sounded broken compared to the FTA ?

[matthias]

6 minutes ago, christoph said:

Another league. No compare, the FTA destroys the Lush, the Curious and even the LH 10G had no chance. The Wireworld Diamond even sounded broken compared to the FTA ?

 

Did you compare the FTA directly to all the other four mentioned cables?

Thanks

 

Matt

[christoph]

1 minute ago, matthias said:

 

Did you compare the FTA directly to all the other four mentioned cables?

Thanks

 

Matt

Directly to the Curious and to the LH 10G as I own those as well.

To the Wireworld Platinum (sorry, not Diamond) directly at Stenheim, where I begged to please swap back to the FTA asap and at my friend Golum's place. The good people at Stenheim bought the FTA after the compare at their place.

Golum sold his Wireworld Platinum soon later.

 

My friend Norman has the Lush and could comment.

Some time before FTA we compared the Lush, Curious and LH 10G at my place, the Lush was about the same level as the Curious with different signature and both where behind the LH 10G. So I don't think I'm too far off saying the Lush is no contest for the FTA ?

[matthias]

@christoph or others:

Do you know if the FTA is shielded or unshielded?

Thanks

 

Matt

[matthias]

1 hour ago, matthias said:

 

Do FTA have a homepage or any info about on the web?

 

 

http://www.finaltouchaudio.com/copy-of-digital-cables

 

Matt

[christoph]

35 minutes ago, matthias said:

@christoph or others:

Do you know if the FTA is shielded or unshielded?

Thanks

 

Matt

I don't know, sorry

[matthias]

34 minutes ago, matthias said:

 

http://www.finaltouchaudio.com/copy-of-digital-cables

 

 

I like that the cable is made from copper, not silver and how it is manufactured.

If I understand correctly it is unshielded which I like as well.

Curious to listen!

 

Matt

 

[Ralf11]

were these blinded listening tests?

[mansr]

24 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

were these blinded listening tests?

Of course not. The utter stress of not knowing what you're listening to makes it impossible to discern even night-and-day differences.

[matthias]

Some additional reading:

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/fta-final-touch-audio-callisto-usb-cable.26632/

 

Matt

[matthias]

A question for all who were able to listen to the FTA USB cable:

With the FTA in place, is the impact of devices upstream of the FTA greater or lesser than without the FTA?

Thanks

 

Matt

[Ralf11]

1 hour ago, mansr said:

Of course not. The utter stress of not knowing what you're listening to makes it impossible to discern even night-and-day differences.

 

I notice they do NOT want to answer the question.

 

I have to wonder if there is a financial connection with the over-priced cable co.

[The Computer Audiophile]

30 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

 

I notice they do NOT want to answer the question.

 

I have to wonder if there is a financial connection with the over-priced cable co.

Or, they don't want to engage in a conversation with you or Mans. If I were you, I'd put this topic on ignore and not sweat it.

[Ralf11]

I am not sweating it at all.

 

But I am sure you don't want your site used for people with financial interests to push products...

[The Computer Audiophile]

17 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

I am not sweating it at all.

 

But I am sure you don't want your site used for people with financial interests to push products...

Good, nice to see you aren't sweating it. It sure looked like you were going to be all over this thread, going back and forth in a belief vs belief argument etc...

 

I certainly don't want anyone pushing products here and I'm pretty sure that the OP has no financial interest as he has been an upstanding member of CA since August of 2009. 

[Ralf11]

You are mis-apprehending the whole basis of testing vs. belief.

 

Now, what he could have done is say either yes or no... or "No, I thought the differences were so large that they could not be the result of conf. bias" or many other responses.

[The Computer Audiophile]

1 hour ago, Ralf11 said:

You are mis-apprehending the whole basis of testing vs. belief.

 

Now, what he could have done is say either yes or no... or "No, I thought the differences were so large that they could not be the result of conf. bias" or many other responses.

What you can do is create another thread to talk all about this rather than take this one down a path the original participants clearly don't want to travel. 

[Ralf11]

another thread about what?

 

and BTW, I asked a simple question - extenuated verbiage about someone daring to ask a question is the real derailing issue

[The Man]

The Valhalla2 usb cable the best I've ever listened to... no emi rfi eliminated and it just improves the quality of the music ... started on a mac laptop and saw the difference immediately I was using 7n silver before...  incredible cable... 

[Sal1950]

4 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

What you can do is create another thread to talk all about this rather than take this one down a path the original participants clearly don't want to travel. 

I get your point Chris but,

Unfortunately then this thread will go on and on for pages unchallenged. Visitors here then start to believe these delusions, on things that are technically impossible, are the real thing.

No son, that 747 DIDN"T really disappear off the runway. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

32 minutes ago, Sal1950 said:

I get your point Chris but,

Unfortunately then this thread will go on and on for pages unchallenged. Visitors here then start to believe these delusions, on things that are technically impossible, are the real thing.

No son, that 747 DIDN"T really disappear off the runway. 

Sal, you're trying to save people from themselves. We are all adults here and deserve the respect to not be challenged at every corner if we want to talk about a certain topic. This is where the idea of opening a different topic to discuss what you want comes into play. Heck, you can even post a notification in this topic that you've started another to let people know how you feel. 

[matthias]

40 minutes ago, Sal1950 said:

Visitors here then start to believe these delusions, on things that are technically impossible, are the real thing.

 

The human ear/brain comes first, the technical explanation later......

 

Matt

[xyzzy1]

5 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

another thread about what?

 

and BTW, I asked a simple question - extenuated verbiage about someone daring to ask a question is the real derailing issue

OK, getting sucked in....

 

Well, it would be about how not to try for new experiences which might lead to new learning and only regurgitate what others who have not tried anything say.

 

A very exciting topic indeed, off you guys go!

 

 

[xyzzy1]

9 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

were these blinded listening tests?

Any chance you and your brethren would actually go out and do your own "blinded listening tests" for once?

How lazy are you guys?

 

 

[One and a half]

12 minutes ago, xyzzy1 said:

Any chance you and your brethren would actually go out and do your own "blinded listening tests" for once?

How lazy are you guys?

 

 

Where are your blind testing results since you’re not lazy.