Ralf11 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 simple - get some of the Fake FLAC (aka Alternative mp3) and analyze the files report back to us when done Link to comment
kumakuma Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 So apple gets their music in digital format from the source? Any way to confirm this? Apple hasn't replied to me yet. I got a generic message saying I would get a reply within 24 hours. I'm not trolling people. If my friend was lying then so be it. I just want to know where my music comes from. I don't want mp3's from Napster dressed as FLAC. Not surprising that Apple hasn't responded considering that they don't sell music in lossless formats (FLAC or otherwise). All of their music is in a lossy format functionally equivalent to mp3. MikeyFresh 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
esldude Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 If Apple really wanted to acquire music via random members of the public ripping CDs, why wouldn't they use iTunes Match as a mechanism for doing this, since it uploads music they don't/can't match in their repository? But this whole thing is just a steaming pile of troll excreta. Some people will twist an argument to any length to avoid recognizing the simple truth. They wouldn't use Itunes match to steal other versions they can't match. It would leave open a security hole for uploaded malware code hidden amongst music data they already don't recognize into the Apple inner sanctum. Then all sorts of bad things could happen. Where is that sarcastic emojo??? And always keep in mind: Cognitive biases, like seeing optical illusions are a sign of a normally functioning brain. We all have them, it’s nothing to be ashamed about, but it is something that affects our objective evaluation of reality. Link to comment
esldude Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Not surprising that Apple hasn't responded considering that they don't sell music in lossless formats (FLAC or otherwise). All of their music is in a lossy format functionally equivalent to mp3. DUH! That's why they'll buy this guy's friend's copies. It is not like this is lossless anyway right? They don't care if it came from Napster. And always keep in mind: Cognitive biases, like seeing optical illusions are a sign of a normally functioning brain. We all have them, it’s nothing to be ashamed about, but it is something that affects our objective evaluation of reality. Link to comment
audiventory Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 simple - get some of the Fake FLAC (aka Alternative mp3) and analyze the files report back to us when done Does you mean, detect mp3 as source by analizys of FLAC file? What FLAC was converted from mp3? AuI ConverteR 48x44 - HD audio converter/optimizer for DAC of high resolution files ISO, DSF, DFF (1-bit/D64/128/256/512/1024), wav, flac, aiff, alac, safe CD ripper to PCM/DSF, Seamless Album Conversion, AIFF, WAV, FLAC, DSF metadata editor, Mac & WindowsOffline conversion save energy and nature Link to comment
Jud Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 But this whole thing is just a steaming pile of troll excreta. Bingo. Either that or Ripper Van Winkle just woke up from a 20-year snooze. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Jud Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Does spotify get their music digital from the source as well? Amazon? No, they've got 50 million South Asian kids ripping it all for them, including the stuff they have that isn't out on CD yet or was never released on CD. I'm extremely skeptical anyone could really be this unaware, but just in case you're the one person who doesn't know, try the University of Google and read about music licensing deals. Ya see, we've got these newfangled things called computers now (you may even have used one to post here!), and instead of carting CDs around all over creation or having to rip them, the music companies store the music files on their computers (yes, they have computers too - amazing!) and just send them over the Internet like everyone else does with everything. Or do you first print out all your photos and scan them back into your computer before you email them to your relatives and friends? One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
miguelito Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Some people will twist an argument to any length to avoid recognizing the simple truth. They wouldn't use Itunes match to steal other versions they can't match. It would leave open a security hole for uploaded malware code hidden amongst music data they already don't recognize into the Apple inner sanctum. Then all sorts of bad things could happen. Where is that sarcastic emojo??? And some people are completely stupid. And some people (prob the OP) have an ulterior motive. NUC10i7 + Roon ROCK > dCS Rossini APEX DAC + dCS Rossini Master Clock SME 20/3 + SME V + Dynavector XV-1s or ANUK IO Gold > vdH The Grail or Kondo KSL-SFz + ANK L3 Phono Audio Note Kondo Ongaku > Avantgarde Duo Mezzo Signal cables: Kondo Silver, Crystal Cable phono Power cables: Kondo, Shunyata, van den Hul system pics Link to comment
R1200CL Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 May I suggest that we stop posting to this thread ? (Unless that friend of OP shows up, and start posting with some evidence) Sent from my iPad using Computer Audiophile Link to comment
Musicophile Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 No, they've got 50 million South Asian kids ripping it all for them And I always thought music transmission had to involve a dog listening to an old gramophone. Now I'm disappointed. botrytis 1 Check out my blog at musicophilesblog.com - From Keith Jarrett to Johannes Brahms Link to comment
realhifi Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Exactly. Everyone knows they can get minors in South Asian countries to rip their files for much less. Ouch. David Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 This reminds me of a favorite axiom on music: "Always remember to lose the compressed lossless files that proved unlistenable. But never forget to remember those that have stuck it to you." I really like that one. It's an ancient muslim Irish Nigerian proverb. Link to comment
rn701 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Besides being ridiculous on the face of it, the story lost me at the part wher they guy burns mp3s to a cd-r so he can rip them. Why not just convert the mp3s to flac using dbpoweramp or something? Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted March 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, rn701 said: Besides being ridiculous on the face of it, the story lost me at the part wher they guy burns mp3s to a cd-r so he can rip them. Why not just convert the mp3s to flac using dbpoweramp or something? esldude and Jud 2 Link to comment
Richard Pryor Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 They wanted his logs at first that's why he burned his mp3's to cd-r's. Now we have cue database. Honestly I don't care if you guys spend thousands of dollars on equipment and end up playing burned mp3's converted to flac. I belong to a great community where we share perfectly ripped flac's, all matching cue database. It's perfect music guaranteed. Keep buying that lame lossless codec from apple. Keep believing your music is perfect. Apple codec sucks and you can't trust the source. Our community has all the albums in this world. All legit. All perfectly ripped. Keep thinking your files are perfect, If you can sleep at night with out proof of the source then good for you. Our community isn't accepting new members because we have all the music in the world so please, no PM's. Link to comment
Richard Pryor Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 Music is free. Good luck to everyone. Link to comment
Popular Post kumakuma Posted March 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Richard Pryor said: Music is free. Good luck to everyone. Advocating piracy on this forum shows how clueless you truly are. bogi, Teresa, botrytis and 1 other 4 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
esldude Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I wonder if there is an illuminati-like symbol for this special group with all the world's real music. You know like on the back of a dollar bill. Instead of one eye floating in a pyramid we have one ear floating in the pyramid. Jud 1 And always keep in mind: Cognitive biases, like seeing optical illusions are a sign of a normally functioning brain. We all have them, it’s nothing to be ashamed about, but it is something that affects our objective evaluation of reality. Link to comment
new_media Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Richard Pryor said: Now we have cue database. Honestly I don't care if you guys spend thousands of dollars on equipment and end up playing burned mp3's converted to flac. I belong to a great community where we share perfectly ripped flac's, all matching cue database. It's perfect music guaranteed. Keep buying that lame lossless codec from apple. Keep believing your music is perfect. Apple codec sucks and you can't trust the source. Our community has all the albums in this world. All legit. All perfectly ripped. Keep thinking your files are perfect, If you can sleep at night with out proof of the source then good for you. Our community isn't accepting new members because we have all the music in the world so please, no PM's. You seem to have some bizarre agenda in fabricating this story, but I can't for my life figure out what it is. wgscott 1 Link to comment
Popular Post SoundAndMotion Posted March 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 hour ago, new_media said: You seem to have some bizarre agenda in fabricating this story, but I can't for my life figure out what it is. I think he's preparing to run for office... Booster MPS, Confused and wgscott 3 Link to comment
Popular Post Jud Posted March 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2017 3 hours ago, new_media said: You seem to have some bizarre agenda in fabricating this story, but I can't for my life figure out what it is. Rather simple, I think. We are all supposed to knock down his door with PMs that of course he claims not to want, in order to be part of his "great community" with "all the albums in the world" ripped to FLAC, and how do you know they're legitimate? Why, Apple hired this guy to rip for them! What I'd love to know from our comedian friend is whether there are any forums he's polluted where anyone actually fell for this crap. @The Computer Audiophile, it might be time for the first ban hammer of the new forum version! kumakuma, jhwalker, esldude and 1 other 4 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted March 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Jud said: Rather simple, I think. We are all supposed to knock down his door with PMs that of course he claims not to want, in order to be part of his "great community" with "all the albums in the world" ripped to FLAC, and how do you know they're legitimate? Why, Apple hired this guy to rip for them! What I'd love to know from our comedian friend is whether there are any forums he's polluted where anyone actually fell for this crap. @The Computer Audiophile, it might be time for the first ban hammer of the new forum version! Oh so right. wgscott and kumakuma 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
botrytis Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 On 3/17/2017 at 1:03 AM, kumakuma said: Not surprising that Apple hasn't responded considering that they don't sell music in lossless formats (FLAC or otherwise). All of their music is in a lossy format functionally equivalent to mp3. Not True - ALAC is Apple Lossless - just their own version. Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 minute ago, botrytis said: Not True - ALAC is Apple Lossless - just their own version. But, Apple doesn't sell anything in Apple Lossless. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
botrytis Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: But, Apple doesn't sell anything in Apple Lossless. But you can buy from other retailers in that format. Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
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