MQA is Vaporware

[The Computer Audiophile]

38 minutes ago, John Dyson said:

Just IMO -- NOT intending on shilling my project, but if the distributors -- esp HDtracks -- would actually provide much higher quality than otherwise available, not just more bits, then they might really expand their market and create loyalty.   As it is, a slightly (very slightly) clearer version of a 'CD with more bits', with some of the noise/splats/errant signals above 20kHz -- should be filtered out anyway, is not a compelling purchase.

If there is something that actually makes a product SUPERIOR and not just better in a very 'esoteric' way, then they just might make a real place for themselves in the market.

 

John

 

Download stores are at the mercy of the rights holders. For example, if a download store worked with a label to allow the store to pay for an album to be remastered, the store would only have an exclusive on that remaster it paid for and went through all the hassle to do, for a very short period of time. After this, the new remaster must be provided to all the competitors. 
 

It’s no wonder that download stores are hesitant. 

[John Dyson]

21 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Download stores are at the mercy of the rights holders. For example, if a download store worked with a label to allow the store to pay for an album to be remastered, the store would only have an exclusive on that remaster it paid for and went through all the hassle to do, for a very short period of time. After this, the new remaster must be provided to all the competitors. 
 

It’s no wonder that download stores are hesitant. 

I didn't realize that it was that screwed up...   Going to the trouble for a remaster, and then giving up the rights...

 

Well, if done correctly, and I am NOT claiming that I have done so -- it requires experts to do so -- it would improve the general ecology of prerecorded materials -- but with zilch benefit to those who invest the time/effort?

 

Thanks for that information...   You know also -- it is unrealistic for HW/SW at current state of the art to automatically remaster, so we are stuck with what we have?  It is really, really sad.  I know that I was tilting at windmills, just not knowing how pathetic the situation is....

 

Another method to 'improve the music': -- but a bit complex, is a recording + software package, all boxed together, ready to *automatically* run/decode on a Windows PC, like a download/install process.?   (I am NOT interested in $$$ profit motive, just interested in the music.)

 

I wonder if that could be legal?

 

John

 

[Nikhil]

2 hours ago, John Dyson said:

Another method to 'improve the music': -- but a bit complex, is a recording + software package, all boxed together, ready to *automatically* run/decode on a Windows PC, like a download/install process.?   (I am NOT interested in $$$ profit motive, just interested in the music.)

 

I would be very interested in learning more about what you mean by this.  Perhaps on a different thread.

 

 

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[Rt66indierock]

6 minutes ago, Nikhil said:

 

I would be very interested in learning more about what you mean by this.  Perhaps on a different thread.

 

 

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Keep it here is is on topic.

[The Computer Audiophile]

6 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

 

Keep it here is is on topic.

No. Nothing to do with MQA.

[The Computer Audiophile]

13 minutes ago, Nikhil said:

 

I would be very interested in learning more about what you mean by this.  Perhaps on a different thread.

 

 

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Agree and I'm also interested. Another thread please. 

[Rt66indierock]

10 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

No. Nothing to do with MQA.

 

Automated processing is the reason I was against MQA in the first place. It can't be done in the current environment. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

33 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

 

Automated processing is the reason I was against MQA in the first place. It can't be done in the current environment. 

Don't rewrite history Steve. You have many years of documented history against MQA that has nothing to do with automated processing.

 

As you were. 

[lucretius]

On 4/5/2020 at 10:27 AM, JoeWhip said:

Time to get rid of these regional restrictions. They are easily avoided with a VPN anyway.

 

They can restrict based on the country of your credit card.

[firedog]

57 minutes ago, lucretius said:

 

They can restrict based on the country of your credit card.

yep.

[Rt66indierock]

5 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Don't rewrite history Steve. You have many years of documented history against MQA that has nothing to do with automated processing.

 

As you were. 

 

It was the first thing I talked about with MQA representatives at T.H.E. Show in Irvine California 20016. We didn't meet until RMAF 2016.  If you look back at the tape I said I had two winning hands. This was one of the cards. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

3 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

 

It was the first thing I talked about with MQA representatives at T.H.E. Show in Irvine California 20016. We didn't meet until RMAF 2016.  If you look back at the tape I said I had two winning hands. This was one of the cards. 

I hate to say it but you’re a legend in your own mind. 

[Rt66indierock]

On 4/4/2020 at 10:17 PM, Currawong said:

 

Details?

 

There is a pattern of changing terms of contracts and licensing arrangements. The first part of pattern is in Neil Young's book, the second part is in HDTracks lawsuit against 7 Digital, the third part is from my discussions at T.H.E. Show with manufactures in Irvine CA in 2016, and fourth I watched the Roon guys get their arms twisted at RMAF 2017.

[Rt66indierock]

3 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

I hate to say it but you’re a legend in your own mind. 

Funny but isn't it interesting a lot my stuff is being deleted?  What do they fear?

 

And feel free to keep shooting at the messenger, it keeps me entertained while I work on things like attribution rules for the Paycheck Protection Program and some crazy bank restrictions on applying for it.

[Nikhil]

Meanwhile on queue 2L gets trotted out on the TIDAL High Fidelity Music Streaming group

https://www.facebook.com/groups/tidalmusic/permalink/889229521527212/

 

[UkPhil]

It seems MQA is diversifying, they want you to test / try and unfold the audio in a video stream maybe the audio streaming route has now plateaued with just Tidal 

https://www.mqa.co.uk/mqa-live/bme-sessions/download

 

[UkPhil]

Link to video 

 

https://www.mqa.co.uk/mqa-live/bme-sessions/noya-rao?fbclid=IwAR14M6zFnBHiXNXTOPOnvmuSUhIg9Bw77TTP2s_FrWMmLSJ2vIHMMHWLEno

[Cebolla]

On 4/8/2020 at 7:25 AM, Nikhil said:

Meanwhile on queue 2L gets trotted out on the TIDAL High Fidelity Music Streaming group

https://www.facebook.com/groups/tidalmusic/permalink/889229521527212/

 

 

Yep (thanks to mansr et al), comparing 2L's test bench MQA tracks with their masters certainly shows them up as being 'special'

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30572-mqa-technical-analysis:

 

[FredericV]

Is the Tidal group managed by MQA influencers? I did launch a membrship request, and now it seems I'm banned from this group:



 

[The Computer Audiophile]

3 minutes ago, FredericV said:

Is the Tidal group managed by MQA influencers? I did launch a membrship request, and now it seems I'm banned from this group:



 

Of course they talk, even if moderated by different people. They have a shared interest in hiding the truth.

[Nikhil]

2 minutes ago, FredericV said:

Is the Tidal group managed by MQA influencers? I did launch a membrship request, and now it seems I'm banned from this group:

 

 

Quite possible.  I was invited by a friend but left the group a few days ago.

Just too much MQA garbage on there. 

 

 

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[lucretius]

13 minutes ago, FredericV said:

Is the Tidal group managed by MQA influencers? I did launch a membrship request, and now it seems I'm banned from this group:



 

 

You may be right. It's not an official group.

[Rt66indierock]

25 minutes ago, FredericV said:

Is the Tidal group managed by MQA influencers? I did launch a membrship request, and now it seems I'm banned from this group:



 

 

Gee I've been a part of that group for quite awhile. But I don't ever say much.

[Tintinabulum]

Awwww

 

[Rt66indierock]

1 hour ago, Tintinabulum said:

Awwww

 

 

I'm glad you're back. With passing of Clark Johnsen of Positive Feedback Wednesday I have more stuff to attack the defenders  of the status quo. I would have liked to meet him, I'm sorry I didn't have the chance.

 

Be sure to tell the MQA FaceBook group I've been spying on them for almost two years.