semente Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Jud said: The first major label digital recording of popular music, Ry Cooder's "Bop 'til You Drop," was released in 1979, if that helps at all. This PCM recording was first issued as an LP: Recorded 23rd & 24th October 1975 at the Arakawa Kumin Kaikan Studio, Tokyo Denon PCM Recording https://www.discogs.com/Zoltán-Kocsis-Plays-Béla-Bartók-Allegro-Barbaro-Three-Rondos-On-Folk-Tunes-Suite-Sonata/release/7954587 Jud 1 "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
semente Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 P.S.> available from Qobuz for £3 - https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/kocsis-plays-bartok-zoltan-kocsis/zjqkxji75pihb "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
Jud Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, semente said: P.S.> available from Qobuz for £3 - https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/kocsis-plays-bartok-zoltan-kocsis/zjqkxji75pihb Any thoughts about SQ from anyone who's heard it on Qobuz? Bop 'til You Drop sounds quite good, though you might want to turn it up. The levels are low next to current Loudness Wsrs product. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
EuroChamp Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, Jud said: Any thoughts about SQ from anyone who's heard it on Qobuz? Bop 'til You Drop sounds quite good, though you might want to turn it up. The levels are low next to current Loudness Wsrs product. SQ is top Link to comment
firedog Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 3:42 AM, sphinxsix said: I've decided to follow into @AMR/iFi audio 's footsteps and to check out the soundtrack I actually haven't listened to for a very long time. If you like the post Bop Miles, this is a really good album. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
firedog Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 hours ago, semente said: Both these sources say 1975; apparently it was first sold on vinyl. https://www.discogs.com/Zoltán-Kocsis-Kocsis-Plays-Bartók/release/5357237 https://www.gramophone.co.uk/review/bartók-piano-works-8 Edit: back cover posted by @rando also gives '75 as the recording date. According to this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_recording It was not the first commercial digital recording, and seems it wasn't a digital recording at all. Don't know why that Japanese CD is labeled "DDD" maybe they were given a digital master, and thought it originated as a digital recording. Anyway, at the beginning of the CD era, it was thought to be a marketing advantage to be a DDD recording, so maybe it was just wishful thinking and slick marketing. Musicophile 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
firedog Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, Jud said: Any thoughts about SQ from anyone who's heard it on Qobuz? Sounds fine. Not fantastic, but fine. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Popular Post Hugo9000 Posted February 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2019 Antonio Vivaldi Juditha triumphans Magdalena Kožená Alessandro de Marchi/Academia Montis Regalis An oratorio by Vivaldi with a libretto in Latin. Wonderful performance and lovely sound! I'm listening to my CD set, but it's available on Qobuz for anyone interested: https://open.qobuz.com/album/0709869002193 Musicophile, Daccord and Guidof 1 2 请教别人一次是5分钟的傻子,从不请教别人是一辈子的傻子 Link to comment
firedog Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, semente said: P.S.> available from Qobuz for £3 - https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/kocsis-plays-bartok-zoltan-kocsis/zjqkxji75pihb Interesting, that's the UK price; in the US I see it for $13 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
semente Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, firedog said: Interesting, that's the UK price; in the US I see it for $13 Here I can see two versions: Released on January 1, 2009 by Denon £2.99 & Released on July 30, 2014 by Denon £7.99 The recording is also available as part of this set: "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 hours ago, firedog said: If you like the post Bop Miles, this is a really good album. I actually like Miles from every period. Probably my favorite MD's fusion albums are 'Pangaea' and 'Agharta'. Not an easy listen but IMO a rewarding one. Absolutely not for jazz purists! Link to comment
semente Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 hours ago, firedog said: Sounds fine. Not fantastic, but fine. This is from track 2: "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
fas42 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 From Wikipedia ... Quote * January 1971: Using NHK's experimental PCM recording system, Dr. Takeaki Anazawa, an engineer at Denon, records the world's first commercial digital recordings, Something by Steve Marcus & Jiro Inagaki (January 25, 1971) and The World Of Stomu Yamash'ta 1 & 2 by Stomu Yamash'ta (January 11, 1971).[3] Both have to be recorded live, without edits. Marcus is released first (in February 1972), making it the first released digital recording. * 1972: Using lessons learned from the NHK encoder, Denon unveils the first 8-channel PCM encoder, the DN-023R, which uses 47.25kHz 13-bit PCM resolution and 4-head open reel broadcast video tape recorder.[3] The first recording with this new system is the Smetana Quartet performing Mozart's String Quartets K.458 and K.421, recorded in Tokyo April 24–26 and released that October. At least six other Denon-recorded digital LP records are released in October, including jazz, classical and traditional Japanese music.[3][6] rando 1 Link to comment
fas42 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 10 hours ago, rando said: It was released 86/87. Pre-emphasis on Denon and BIS existed long after everyone else ditched it. Was that the case here @fas42? Can't say ... the CDP doesn't indicate, and I can't see anything in the booklet. There are no giveaways in the sound, that I can pick, that the full tonality of a Steinway wasn't captured ... Musicophile 1 Link to comment
mansr Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, fas42 said: Can't say ... the CDP doesn't indicate, and I can't see anything in the booklet. Pop it in a PC and ask your favourite ripping program. If it doesn't give this information, you need a new favourite. Link to comment
fas42 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 hours ago, firedog said: It was not the first commercial digital recording, and seems it wasn't a digital recording at all. Don't know why that Japanese CD is labeled "DDD" maybe they were given a digital master, and thought it originated as a digital recording. Anyway, at the beginning of the CD era, it was thought to be a marketing advantage to be a DDD recording, so maybe it was just wishful thinking and slick marketing. What makes you think that it wasn't a digital, but rather an analogue recording? Is this actually stated somewhere? Link to comment
fas42 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, mansr said: Pop it in a PC and ask your favourite ripping program. If it doesn't give this information, you need a new favourite. Done ... EAC says, No Pre-Emphasis on all 29 tracks . Link to comment
AMR/iFi audio Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Our PowerStation is here: click me! Check out our Tidal MQA Set-up Guides below. Android (Renderer) MobileDesktop (Decoder) via USBDesktop (Decoder) via SPDIF Link to comment
semente Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 11 hours ago, rando said: Pre-emphasis on Denon and BIS existed long after everyone else ditched it. All Denon CDs I own used to light the de-emphasis indicator of a Parasound I once had. "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, BrokeLinuxPhile said: Wow! I ditched once in primary school to copy the 'MiJ' cassette Link to comment
Popular Post graham Posted February 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2019 It has been a while since I last dipped into this wonderful collection. Listening to #17- 21. EuroChamp, Guidof and Musicophile 2 1 Link to comment
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Paul R Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 This is music that will touch your soul. You have to play this recording rather loud however, the soft parts are soft. -Paul Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
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