Double Blind Testing Prices All Power Cords Have An Effect On Audio!!!!!

[marce]

some reading... both articles are relevant and the second follows up on the first.

https://www.edn.com/design/consumer/4419643/Select-your-USB-audio-MCU-with-care--Scary-stories-from-the-test-bench

https://www.edn.com/design/consumer/4424103/USB-audio--Asynchronous-is-the-only-choice-for-compromise-free-audio-

I have some further comments on USB implementations on a wide variety of designs, but going shopping with the Missus now!!!!

 

[marce]

2 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

You guys went crazy over this satirical article...

 

I am never doing this again.

As I said in my first post, there is a lack of a sense of humour, we are all to serious.

[pkane2001]

9 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

You guys went crazy over this satirical article...

 

I am never doing this again.

 

You can post satirical articles again, just not about power cords or usb cables.

[jabbr]

On 4/26/2019 at 8:15 AM, Allan F said:

 

When will people like you and mansr get it? We don't post to prove anything to you. We share experiences with others who may be interested in them. Audio is a hobby to us, not a scientific journal. People are free to consider or ignore our experiences as they see fit.

 

Why argue then? 

 

@marce has his own personal experience as well as a vast body of work corroborated by the personal observations of many thousands if not millions of people for well over a century now. 

 

You are free and should be free free to post your personal observations but why argue?

[Summit]

Its take two to tango, they say 😉.

[BrokeLinuxPhile]

4 minutes ago, jabbr said:

You are free and should be free free to post your personal observations but why argue? 

 

Internet is degrading into old men yelling at clouds, myself included at times.  Written speech is an art and we lose emotional context over oral speech.  Sarcasm is hard to translate into a single language.

[pkane2001]

2 minutes ago, Summit said:

Its take two to tango, they say 😉.

 

The difference is you can argue quite well with a straw man, but tango - not so much

 

[Allan F]

2 hours ago, jabbr said:

 

Why argue then? 

 

@marce has his own personal experience as well as a vast body of work corroborated by the personal observations of many thousands if not millions of people for well over a century now. 

 

You are free and should be free to post your personal observations but why argue?

 

Maybe you consider it arguing. I don't. Rather, it is a statement to objectivists like him that we who share our experiences neither need nor appreciate the continual snide remarks and demands for proof. As to @marce 's experience, it would make no difference if he was the co-author of Ohm's law. He has only two ears, the same as you and me.

[AudioDoctor]

4 hours ago, pkane2001 said:

 

You can post satirical articles again, just not about power cords or usb cables.

 

The last one I posted went well, but it wasn't about cables... Perhaps the cables are the problem.

[Ralf11]

5 hours ago, pkane2001 said:

 

The difference is you can argue quite well with a straw man, but tango - not so much

 

 

in that case, you need a better system

[Ralf11]

3 hours ago, Allan F said:

 

Maybe you consider it arguing. I don't. Rather, it is a statement to objectivists like him that we who share our experiences neither need nor appreciate the continual snide remarks and demands for proof. As to @marce 's experience, it would make no difference if he was the co-author of Ohm's law. He has only two ears, the same as you and me.

 

I agree completely.  There is no way science and engineering can match your experiences

[kumakuma]

4 hours ago, Allan F said:

 

Maybe you consider it arguing. I don't. Rather, it is a statement to objectivists like him that we who share our experiences neither need nor appreciate the continual snide remarks and demands for proof. As to @marce 's experience, it would make no difference if he was the co-author of Ohm's law. He has only two ears, the same as you and me.

 

Surely as a retired lawyer you must know how unreliable earwitness testimony can be...

[pkane2001]

18 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

 

in that case, you need a better system

 

I’m going to have to upgrade the power cord and the fuse, at the very least.

[Ralf11]

53 minutes ago, pkane2001 said:

 

I’m going to have to upgrade the power cord and the fuse, at the very least.

 

here is one explicitly made for tango

 

https://www.amazon.com/XtremeMac-Tango-TRX-IPU-TRX-11R-IPU-TRXD-11/dp/B00ENDLUA4

[sandyk]

2 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

 

I agree completely.  There is no way science and engineering can match your experiences

 

 Especially in quite a few areas such as taste, where you appear to be lacking, and smell where a human being is able to identify numerous types of odours.

 

[sandyk]

2 hours ago, pkane2001 said:

 

I’m going to have to upgrade the power cord and the fuse, at the very least.

 

 Don't forget the IEC mains socket too.

[Allan F]

3 hours ago, kumakuma said:

 

Surely as a retired lawyer you must know how unreliable earwitness testimony can be...

 

While I am fully aware of the frailties of eyewitness testimony, particularly with regard to identification, I fail to see any parallel with focused, repeated and consistent audible observations. Far rarer "earwitness" testimony, usually related to voice identification, also has no parallels IMO as it is not based on observations made under similar conditions. One factor often affecting voice identification is that the observation is made while attention is divided between face and voice, thus reducing the reliability of both.

[Ralf11]

51 minutes ago, sandyk said:

 

 Especially in quite a few areas such as taste, where you appear to be lacking, and smell where a human being is able to identify numerous types of odours.

 

 

you should not criticize other people's taste - it smells bad

[Ralf11]

23 minutes ago, Allan F said:

 

While I am fully aware of the frailties of eyewitness testimony, most especially with regard to identification, I fail to see any parallel with focused, repeated and consistent audible observations. Far rarer "earwitness" testimony, usually related to voice identification, also has no parallels IMO as it is not based on observations made under similar conditions. One factor affecting voice identification is that the observation is often made while attention is divided between face and voice, thus reducing the reliability of both.

 

if you were to bother learning a bit about cognitive psychology, you would see the parallel 

[Paul R]

3 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

 

if you were to bother learning a bit about cognitive psychology, you would see the parallel 

 

As joke, it is funny. As an absolute truth, it does not deserve a hearing.  :() 

 

-Paul 

 

[kumakuma]

4 minutes ago, Paul R said:

 

As joke, it is funny. As an absolute truth, it does not deserve a hearing.  :() 

 

-Paul 

 

 

Care to elaborate?

[Paul R]

18 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

 

Care to elaborate?

 

Other than I definitely have the punning disease, and not so good at making with the funny?  Nope.

 

 

[fas42]

What the SQ that I talk of features are very clearcut auditory behaviours - these are completely independent of mood, expectation bias, alcohol levels, etc, etc. They occurred 35 years ago, and they still occur now, when a rig is in sufficient tune - one is that it becomes impossible to locate the speaker drivers, that is, if a curtain were lowered directly in front of the baffles, and you were allowed to go anywhere right up to the curtain, you would not be able to point to the drivers' location; and another is that a mono recording follows one laterally across the room - this could easily be tested using strict experimental procedures, taking it completely out of the handwaving arena.

[AudioDoctor]

Hey @The Computer Audiophile 

 

Can you just close this thread. I am the OP and this is going nowhere and no one has any sense of humor here.

 

And I, or more likely autocorrect, screwed up the title anyway.

[Ralf11]

there are a LOT of funny posts here - tho not all were intended that way