SOtM smS-200 unveiled at Munich Hi-End

[octaviars]

9 hours ago, lasker98 said:

It's odd that so much attention is being devoted to Roon by SOtM but I guess there's some kind of revenue involved.

 

 

Perhaps it's just so easy that Roon writes the RAAT protocol that SOtM uses for it's Roon Ready and free of bugs as it's tested by Roon.

[Tannoymike]

I'm on 4.56 and the unit will not shut down properly via the SOTM browser menu which results in the ethernet lights on the SOTM constantly blinking. This has been a problem for me on the last couple of firmware updates, anyone know if this can be corrected?

[auricgoldfinger]

Has anyone tried 4.56 with DLNA/JRiver?

[Confused]

On ‎2‎/‎3‎/‎2019 at 5:34 PM, auricgoldfinger said:

 

How are you finding the SQ with 0.4.56?

That depends what you are asking.  I have not noticed any differences between any of the 0.4.5X versions, but I do find that the 0.4.5X versions are a clear step up from any of the previous firmware versions.  So 0.4.56 sounds much the same as 0.4.55, but that's ok, because 0.4.55 was sounding splendid anyway.

[auricgoldfinger]

Just now, Confused said:

That depends what you are asking.  I have not noticed any differences between any of the 0.4.5X versions, but I do find that the 0.4.5X versions are a clear step up from any of the previous firmware versions.  So 0.4.56 sounds much the same as 0.4.55, but that's ok, because 0.4.55 was sounding splendid anyway.

 

I just meant in comparison to 4.55.  Thank you for the response.

[Confused]

21 hours ago, tedwoods said:

 

You do know that I have a fear of Daleks?

[Peter_T]

52 minutes ago, auricgoldfinger said:

Has anyone tried 4.56 with DLNA/JRiver?

I use Jriver with DLNA s server for my SOTM200. No problems with 4.56 except that I cannot reboot on the Eunhasu page.

[Peter_T]

48 minutes ago, Confused said:

That depends what you are asking.  I have not noticed any differences between any of the 0.4.5X versions, but I do find that the 0.4.5X versions are a clear step up from any of the previous firmware versions.  So 0.4.56 sounds much the same as 0.4.55, but that's ok, because 0.4.55 was sounding splendid anyway.

 

I agree : I noticed a somewhat better SQ from my SOTM200 going from 4.22 to 4.50. Since that update no more increase in SQ

[Always.Learning]

I'll weigh in with a few short comments. The last few updates (4.54 through 4.56) have proceeded smoothly. Sonic quality, as far as I have noticed, has remained constant since the upgrade to 4.51. I posted earlier that I thought there were significant and very worthwhile improvements in 4.51 as compared to earlier versions. 

 

Finally, with respect to the blinking lights, I guess I can understand why some people might be concerned if this is a new phenomenon. For me, I have had rapidly blinking lights on my sMS-200 since first installing it in September 2017. I don't think this blinking has made any difference at all in sonic quality. I just assumed that was how the unit operated. If you think the blinking lights are a mechanical or software problem, I seriously doubt that is the case. If they bother you visually, just put some black tape over the light. 

[ClothEars]

I downloaded the latest version of the firmware (V4.5.6) and installed it onto a new microSD card.

Now when I use MPD or Squeezelite I get glitching and breakup.  I also cannot play DSD (via DoP) without serious glitching.

 

Somehow I don't think the firmware problems are solved.  In the meantime I'm putting the V4.2.2 card back in so I can enjoy the music.

[89reksal]

On 2/4/2019 at 3:17 AM, octaviars said:

Perhaps it's just so easy that Roon writes the RAAT protocol that SOtM uses for it's Roon Ready and free of bugs as it's tested by Roon.

I'm pretty sure the problems with this firmware upgrade have nothing to do with bugs in Squeezelite or Logitech Media Server.

[i.deklein]

Interesting thougt that ROON RAAT does the job for SOtM updates.

SOtM is on a new years holliday, i ve got for a view  days now server -gateway timeout - error that also may explain the reboot error experienced around here.  

[octaviars]

55 minutes ago, lasker98 said:

I'm pretty sure the problems with this firmware upgrade have nothing to do with bugs in Squeezelite or Logitech Media Server.

 

That was not what I meant. Clearly SOtM have some problems in the code running Squeezelite or LMS in their products and Roon supplys the code for Roon RAAT and hence it is tested to work as it should with a Roon endpoint before it is sent out.

 

11 minutes ago, i.deklein said:

Interesting thougt that ROON RAAT does the job for SOtM updates.

 

I dont know what you mean with this as Roon RAAT is the protocol Roon uses between "Core" and "Endpoint" to communicate. SOtM uses Roon code to implement the RAAT protocol to act as a Roon Endpoint and Roon have worked as it should in every update since 4.22 so clearly there are some work being done by Roon to have this protocol working as it should. Perhaps I missunderstand your thoughts

[tedwoods]

21 hours ago, Confused said:

You do know that I have a fear of Daleks?

Sorry, didn't mean to scare you...😉

Personally, I like my images being music related. For Eunhasu I use New Order's Tempation cover...

 

[aslg]

Anyone having success using the latest firmware 4.56 with Squeezelite?

Thanks!

[SYM]

10 hours ago, aslg said:

Anyone having success using the latest firmware 4.56 with Squeezelite?

 

4.56 still stutter at squeezlite mode for me

[Paoz]

2 hours ago, SYM said:

 

4.56 still stutter at squeezlite mode for me

Also with roon and dlna

[octaviars]

46 minutes ago, Paoz said:

Also with roon and dlna

 

Have you tried to change the buffer settings under Roon in Eunhasu? 

[Paoz]

4 minutes ago, octaviars said:

 

Have you tried to change the buffer settings under Roon in Eunhasu? 

No. What i have to do??

 

[octaviars]

@Paoz open Eunhasu webpage, open Roon settings page (it is where you activate Roon) . Change buffer settings to higher value it might be 0.1s when you open the page I think I have 0.2s now.

[SYM]

2 hours ago, Paoz said:

Also with roon and dlna

 

For roon - you need to change the settings. 

Weird - for mpd/dlna its working well for me without the need to change any setting. 

[Boomboy]

51 minutes ago, SYM said:

 

For roon - you need to change the settings. 

Weird - for mpd/dlna its working well for me without the need to change any setting. 

Any chance of a screen shot of your mpd buffer settings ? I'd like to check against mine .

Boot up is slow on 4.56 to my previous 4.21 .. but sound is a really good improvement. 

[SYM]

46 minutes ago, Boomboy said:

Any chance of a screen shot of your mpd buffer settings ? I'd like to check against mine

 

Sure, I think my settings are mostly default

[xwollsock]

Has anybody noticed: in version 0.4.56 (if not earlier) it is possible to play dsd 64 files that have been compressed by wavpack, at least via MPD and DOP.  I haven't tried dsd 128 files yet. I use a Lyngdorf TDAI 2170, which apparently does not accept native dsd (maybe the other Lyngdorf user afrancois can confirm this) with an SOtM sMS 200 Ultra Neo.  (I do use Room Perfect, as my listening room has various deficiencies, which the system compensates for very nicely.) Wavpack compression seems to more than halve the size of the files I've tried.

 

After successfully updating to version 0.4.40 a while ago, I had various problems starting at 0.4.50 which I mentioned to May, together with the suggestion to look into compressed dsd files.  Fortunatley 0.4.56 works again for me.  I do have the blinking light, though, but will try what happens when I close the eunhasu tab in the notebooks's browser.    

 

I used the following page to play with the MPD settings: https://linux.die.net/man/5/mpd.conf

Initially I had used Squeezelite (coming from Daphile), but I always found the interface rather clumsy.  While at first I had occasional stutter on compressed dsd files, now this seems to have stopped, but I still need to play with the parameters some more.

 

Would somebode else be interested in a button for flipping the polarity (NOT shifting the phase!)  in MPD?  Several record labels are known for consistently inverting the polarity of their recordings (e.g. Chesky), others are hit and miss.  Moreover, wrong polarity seems to be advantageous when using headphones, to prevent unpleasant localization of voices or instruments in your head, as it adds diffusion.  Some amps have hardare buttons to switch the polarity (e.g. the Tact Millenium).  Certain speakers, in particular 3-way systems, seem mask the effect as they  intentionally flip the polarity of one of the frequency ranges.   On "straight" systems, however, the effect is quite obvious.  Consider one stroke of a bass drum.  The membrane of your speaker should first move outward, rather than inward.  Daphile eventually got such an option upon my request, however burried deep in the menus.  I've also asked the Moode developer; he claims that is can be done quite easily by means of alsa in MPD, but has other priorities at the moment.  (The Raspberry Pi with Moode is intended for a differernt room anyway, but for the time being has been hooked up in parallel with the sMS 200.)  I have no experience with Roon, is this option available there?

[i.deklein]

In ROON you can set phase per channel.