guiltyboxswapper Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I've given up trying to get stable DSD 512 on my ultra neo. Mine is for sale, i'm based in the UK. Let me know if interested, i'll eventually stick an advert up. Link to comment
Solstice380 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, guiltyboxswapper said: I've given up trying to get stable DSD 512 on my ultra neo. Mine is for sale, i'm based in the UK. Let me know if interested, i'll eventually stick an advert up. You may want to revert to an earlier firmware. I’ve had popping issues since 4.22 and so I am back at 4.0 and it works without pops. Depending on your USB input (XMOS, Amanero, etc.) there may be issues with Linux (the core of SOTM s/w). My DAC that 512 isn’t happy with Linux, but no probs with 4.0 at 128 to the Debussy. 4.0 is no longer available on their website but I could get it up in the cloud for you, if interested. mikeyb 1 https://audiophilestyle.com/profile/21384-solstice380/?tab=field_core_pfield_3 Link to comment
guiltyboxswapper Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Solstice380 said: You may want to revert to an earlier firmware. I’ve had popping issues since 4.22 and so I am back at 4.0 and it works without pops. Depending on your USB input (XMOS, Amanero, etc.) there may be issues with Linux (the core of SOTM s/w). My DAC that 512 isn’t happy with Linux, but no probs with 4.0 at 128 to the Debussy. 4.0 is no longer available on their website but I could get it up in the cloud for you, if interested. I can't. My XMOS VID/PID code for the SMSL D1 only works in Kernel 4.18+. I've asked SoTM nicely if they could add the SMSL VID/PID to the 4.2 release. They refuse to do it... Doesn't matter, the intel NUC has won by default in that case hehe. Solstice380 1 Link to comment
mikeyb Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, Solstice380 said: You may want to revert to an earlier firmware. I’ve had popping issues since 4.22 and so I am back at 4.0 and it works without pops. Depending on your USB input (XMOS, Amanero, etc.) there may be issues with Linux (the core of SOTM s/w). My DAC that 512 isn’t happy with Linux, but no probs with 4.0 at 128 to the Debussy. 4.0 is no longer available on their website but I could get it up in the cloud for you, if interested. I'd be interested in 4.0 as 4.22 is popping like mad and it's doing my head in, worried it's doing my speakers damage when playing loud and switch tracks. I don't have an earlier version on my PC so if you could send me a link to 4.0 is be grateful. 😊 Link to comment
Solstice380 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, mikeyb said: I'd be interested in 4.0 as 4.22 is popping like mad and it's doing my head in, worried it's doing my speakers damage when playing loud and switch tracks. I don't have an earlier version on my PC so if you could send me a link to 4.0 is be grateful. 😊 PM sent. https://audiophilestyle.com/profile/21384-solstice380/?tab=field_core_pfield_3 Link to comment
kelvinwsy Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 21 hours ago, guiltyboxswapper said: I've given up trying to get stable DSD 512 on my ultra neo. Mine is for sale, i'm based in the UK. Let me know if interested, i'll eventually stick an advert up. Hi dont give up.. Jussi's advice works.. I hv a 6700k with only Nvidia Gtx 970 I struggled with the Sotm sm200!ultra neo until today You must use the NON Adaptive Filters DSD5/7 at DSD512 !!! No stuttering Try it! abreakthru for me Kelvin Link to comment
guiltyboxswapper Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, kelvinwsy said: Hi dont give up.. Jussi's advice works.. I hv a 6700k with only Nvidia Gtx 970 I struggled with the Sotm sm200!ultra neo until today You must use the NON Adaptive Filters DSD5/7 at DSD512 !!! No stuttering Try it! abreakthru for me Kelvin TBH, I have the same settings working with 3 other streamers at DSD 512 rate no problem. I did take SoTM's advice and tried tweaking the DAC's buffer setting, but no improvement either. Server is a 6800k running at a lightly OC'd 4ghz and a 1080 GTX, HQPlayer embedded, Ubuntu linux w/real-time kernel. Link to comment
kelvinwsy Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I get poly-sinc xtr-2s DSD512 44.1k upsampling no problem no stuttering ADSM filters just wont work at DSD512 only Dsd256 Do try it again But u need A good internet/ethernet connection i use an ASUS AC85 router to form a different subnet from my ISP fiber broadband router Do try again Link to comment
guiltyboxswapper Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, kelvinwsy said: I get poly-sinc xtr-2s DSD512 44.1k upsampling no problem no stuttering ADSM filters just wont work at DSD512 only Dsd256 Do try it again But u need A good internet/ethernet connection i use an ASUS AC85 router to form a different subnet from my ISP fiber broadband router Do try again In time I will eventually - the j5005 NUC fed with a quality PSU is sounding rather incredible and stable with audio-linux running from ramboot. NUC is best of the lot, to my huge surprise. The other 3 streamers don't have an issue with the filters whatsoever. Network is boring gigabit ethernet. Link to comment
guiltyboxswapper Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, kelvinwsy said: I get poly-sinc xtr-2s DSD512 44.1k upsampling no problem no stuttering ADSM filters just wont work at DSD512 only Dsd256 Do try it again But u need A good internet/ethernet connection i use an ASUS AC85 router to form a different subnet from my ISP fiber broadband router Do try again BTW I can run both poly-sinc-short-mp and poly-sinc-xtr-2s at DSD512 with ASDM7 on the other 3 streamers, no problem. Link to comment
kelvinwsy Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I an also running AL ramroot Extreme 2?? (v high temp mode) Sounds damn good on my Eglobal i7 quad core 8650u fanless minipc I find the USB Ports not clean even the isoregen with lt3045 ultra ldo still needs a ckean 5v power using my LhLabs 2G twin head usb cabke( same as iFI audio Gemini cable) I find tge SM200ultrs Neo tonality to be more musical better Stereo depth and isALot quieter .. u hear the difference on well recirded live music YMMV of course Link to comment
kelvinwsy Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Ooh as headless NAA to my i7. 6700k Hqplayer WinServer 2016 Core/AO/Fidelizer8.3Pro Link to comment
guiltyboxswapper Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, kelvinwsy said: I an also running AL ramroot Extreme 2?? (v high temp mode) Sounds damn good on my Eglobal i7 quad core 8650u fanless minipc I find the USB Ports not clean even the isoregen with lt3045 ultra ldo still needs a ckean 5v power using my LhLabs 2G twin head usb cabke( same as iFI audio Gemini cable) I find tge SM200ultrs Neo tonality to be more musical better Stereo depth and isALot quieter .. u hear the difference on well recirded live music YMMV of course Was hoping to do a similar comparison with ultra neo but see above (!), the NUC compared to my other "dedicated" streamers is very favourable indeed. Was not expecting that to be honest. Link to comment
kelvinwsy Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 The Neo is very musical kelvin Link to comment
guiltyboxswapper Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, kelvinwsy said: The Neo is very musical kelvin It may well do, but hard to enjoy the music with pops and clicks. SoTM support appear to be getting nowhere, so I've told them not to even bother looking into it anymore and I'll just sell the damn thing onwards. Link to comment
littlewhitedog Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Hello everyone, received my SMS-200 Neo this week with firmware 0.4.5, plugged into Nuprime DAC 10. As a user of LMS on my NAS, I used Squeezelite player and since the start, sound quality was very good but I was not able to play DSD, either it was stuttering or just not playing at all. After playing with settings like bits, period and so on, resulting in almost nothing working, I reached out to SOTM. Answers arrived quite quickly though procedures to change settings and upgrade to beta. Unfortunately nothing worked. I now upgraded to 0.4.51, and then 0.4.54, situation got worse. Even regular 16/44.1 files did not play without stuttering. What really helped is actually reading your messages so thank you! I switched to MPD / DLNA instead of Squeezelite, and now everything is playing smoothly, including (most) DSD. I did not change anything in the configuration of MPD outside of the DSD mode (2). Note that for a few DSD files sometimes I have a small stutter but it is very rare, could be file specific as most play very well. In my opinion, SQ is a lot better than my pi3 with pCp, but I am not sure I will keep the SMS-200 given the price difference and the fact that it does not work flawlessly (as opposed to my pCp install which is very stable). Anyway, thanks again guys! Link to comment
octaviars Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Updated from 4.51 to 4.54 in Eunhasu today without any problems took around 5 minutes. Roon works as it should. auricgoldfinger 1 Main system TAD D1000mk2, TAD M2500mk2, TAD CE-1, Ansuz Mainz 8 C2, Ansuz Darkz D-TC, Qobuz Studio -> Roon ROCK on NUC -> Uptone etherREGEN -> dCS Network Bridge -> AES/EBU -> DAC HD Plex 200W PSU (4 rail for ISP fiber, router, etherREGEN and NUC) Second system Qobuz Studio -> Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree Link to comment
littlewhitedog Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, octaviars said: Updated from 4.51 to 4.54 in Eunhasu today without any problems took around 5 minutes. Roon works as it should. Currently in 4.54 and and I confirm MDP / DLNA as well Roon work flawlessly. Still no Squeezelite DSD though. By the way, trying Roon, I find the SQ much better than with MDP / DLNA or Squeezelite. Any of you share this experience? How can this be explained? Link to comment
89reksal Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Has anyone upgraded to 4.54 and had success with Squeezelite/LMS? It seems all the attention has been on Roon. Link to comment
Popular Post Always.Learning Posted January 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2019 I have to say I am quite pleased with what I consider to be a very substantial sonic upgrade with the latest Eunhasu OS (now using 4.54). There are a few other possible reasons I am hearing this improvement -- I recently had a PCB replaced in my Chord DAVE due to a broken USB port, and I have elevated my speaker cables and taken some measures to isolate them from vibrations -- but I don't think these explain the full extent of the improvements I'm hearing with digital music. Specifically, I am hearing improvements in the following areas: - music feels unconstricted and "raw" in the best sense -- closer to what I imagine a live mic feed to sound like - dynamics also feel less constrained - I can play music at louder levels without strain - colors are more saturated - bass is harder hitting If there is any downside, it might be that less well-recorded music is sometimes a little harsh. But I'm not hearing "metallic" or otherwise problematic highs as reported by some in this thread. My system is revealing: Uptone-modified Mac Mini running Roon 1.6 (as of today) (powered by JS-2) SOtM Ultra trifecta (but not the Neo version of the sMS-200) plus ISO Regen, all powered by LPS 1s SOtM dBL-Cat 7 ethernet Chord DAVE Crayon CFA 1.2 integrated amp ICs and speaker cables by High Fidelity Cables and Wywires Power and conditioning by Audience and Shunyata Stillpoints for vibration on most components/speakers and room treatments including Stillpoints Apertures Devore Gibbon X speakers FWIW, I did have problems upgrading to the latest Eunhasu OS and feel that SOtM kind of bungled this. It probably helps that I'm using Roon, as folks seem to have had fewer problems with this app (note that I changed the buffer to .20 and the resync to .05 and this helped with some early stuttering). It also helped that I used balenaEtcher to make a copy of Eunhasu on to a new micro SD card. All is not perfect -- I still occasionally suffer from playback issues such as a quick one-time stutter or a particular track just stopping. These are annoying but tend to happen only a few times during a two-hour listening session, so tolerable for now. The question in my mind -- and I'm sure that of others -- is whether an SOtM trifecta approach is now sonically competitive with the latest and greatest NUC/Audio Linux-based approach. In my system, at least, there is still substantial room for improvement within the SOtM universe by upgrading the 200 to Neo status with available mods and upgrading the switch to sNH-10G (and upgrading power supplies). Not sure if it's worth continued investment in this approach or whether the NUC/AL approach is the better long-term investment. Thoughts anyone? austinpop, Confused and kennyb123 1 2 Link to comment
Tannoymike Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Updated from 4.52 to 4.54 last night, no problems with install had to change mixer value only, plays well using both MPD/JRiver and HQPlayer, browser looks a bit different but loads marginally faster than previous firmware although still not as fast as some of the much earlier firmwares. Sotm seem to be getting there with this firmware after the terrible problems previously. auricgoldfinger 1 Link to comment
Mikaell Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I'm using the SMS-200 Ultra and went from 4.22 to 4.51 and now 4.54. Each time I did a complete reinstall, burning the img to the sd-card. I'm only using my SoTM with Roon - so there's not much to configure. To avoid skipping (DSD only from Roon) my settings are: Buffer: 0.5, Resync Delay: 0.20 - didn’t skip even with DSD256. Buffer 0.2 skips sometimes only with DSD - and 0.1 always skips. Didn’t find any benefit for larger values. These might also be dependent on individual network and settings. Didn't do any critical listening because so many variables changed... Eunhasu, Roon, I also switched some cables... but all in all i really enjoy the combination's sound. However I'm encountering a problem that started after updating from 4.22 to 4.51. I mentioned it to SOTM and waiting for their reply. Can't change the hostname. No matter what I set to, it saves the new name but does not respond to it, only to eunhasu.local (or the actual IP Address). Some users suggested trying manually set ip address but that didn't help with this. I really use the hostname change as i can just call the web ui up with a simple "S". Does anyone else have this issue? Link to comment
Popular Post tedwoods Posted January 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2019 So, 4.54 is here and if I could describe it with one word, that would be "natural"! This is immediately evident in voices but there's also a marked improvement at the way the cymbal hits decay, and how the music flows with a sense of ease and delicacy. I've heard that with 4.5 but now it's fully fledged and quite enticing to say the least. I am "allergic" to sibilance and a certain hollowness in the lower midrange, "digita"l usually suffers from. Both are totally absent from 4.54, but without a "sweetening" or detail masking effect. I've tried a few different settings with NAA and everything has been stable for me. Together with the SOtM switch it has elevated my modest by high end standards system to a level I thought was unobtainable. Confused and SYM 2 Link to comment
andy nicholson Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just updated to 4.55 via Eunhasu. 5 mins, no issues using Roon, all sounds lovely..Eunhasu interface much more responsive. auricgoldfinger 1 Main: 2x2TB Ext HDD/Mac Mini 2.3 GhZ core i5 + Uptone MMK & Teradak LPS/Roon/Ethernet LAN/Uptone Audio EtherRegenr/.5M Supra CAT8/SoTM sMs200-ULTRA NEO + SBooster BOTW P&P Eco MkII/Curious cable .2M/UpTone Audio ISORegen + SBooster Ultra/Curious cable .2M/Mutec MC3+USB/DH Labs Silver sonic D110 AES/Genelec 7370A+ 2 x 85351s running GLM 3.1 with wireless remote. Office: 4TBHDD/MacBookPro/Audirvana /.25M AQvox USB/UpTone Audio ISORegen with SBooster Ultra/.25M Moon Audio Silver dragon USB/Chord Hugo2/.25M Moon Audio Silver dragon phono/Rogue Audio Sphinx 2/Anti-cables level 3/Elac Uni_Fi UB5's on Isoacoustics Apertas/Genelec 7050c Sub. Link to comment
octaviars Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, andy nicholson said: Just updated to 4.55 via Eunhasu. 5 mins, no issues using Roon, all sounds lovely..Eunhasu interface much more responsive. I also made the update, no problems with Roon. Main system TAD D1000mk2, TAD M2500mk2, TAD CE-1, Ansuz Mainz 8 C2, Ansuz Darkz D-TC, Qobuz Studio -> Roon ROCK on NUC -> Uptone etherREGEN -> dCS Network Bridge -> AES/EBU -> DAC HD Plex 200W PSU (4 rail for ISP fiber, router, etherREGEN and NUC) Second system Qobuz Studio -> Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree Link to comment
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