fas42 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 There's this bizarre idea that only "perfect" recordings are suitable for evaluating systems ... "Enjoy your test drive in the new, super-refined WMB vehicle, sir - I recommend you drive on the new motorway; it's billard table flat, with no curves at all - that will tell you everything you need to know about how this car drives ..." Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 You should use high-quality recordings that will reveal any flaws in the system - e.g. a nice Dave's picks of a concert, rather than an 8th generation cassette recording. Pick things that you like, and that will test various system abilities: - female vocals (to which the male ear is highly attuned) - drums - cymbals - symbols etc. etc. Link to comment
wgscott Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Ralf11 said: Pick things that you like, and that will test various system abilities: - female vocals Link to comment
MetalNuts Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Recently, I use this album (DSD) to test my system. Tracks for the placement and connection, recordings of different instruments, recordings of different frequency. MetalNuts Link to comment
elcorso Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Will Smith is using this to test audio equipment: Roch oso 1 Link to comment
beerandmusic Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 5:28 AM, PAP said: thx! I bought the CD on ebay, and it doesn't have that wierd echo...not sure which i like better though (grin)...they both sound great. Link to comment
oso Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 So the youtube video is a different version/mix/? Link to comment
oso Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 On 25-1-2018 at 2:10 AM, MetalNuts said: Recently, I use this album (DSD) to test my system. Tracks for the placement and connection, recordings of different instruments, recordings of different frequency. Link please Link to comment
christian u Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 On 25-1-2018 at 2:39 AM, beerandmusic said: I bought the CD on ebay, and it doesn't have that wierd echo...not sure which i like better though (grin)...they both sound great. strange that they would put a different version on you tube. Any other differences you hear comparing the cd with the youtube video? Link to comment
MetalNuts Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 hours ago, oso said: Link please Bought from NativeDSD. MetalNuts Link to comment
christian u Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 On 26-4-2015 at 2:40 AM, PAP said: My good friend and fellow audiophile Gerald k and I have made a compilation of music files which we feel are perfect for testing new equipment. We wanted to use music that we not only enjoy listening to but which also has the abillity to reveal flaws in the signal chain. I listen mostly on Headphones (Sennheiser/ Audeze/ Audio Technica) while Gerald listen only on speakers (Tad, Kharma/Linn/Naim). We have spend many an evening and several bottles of Cotes de Rhone wines arguing and eventually agreeing on this list of audio equipment test music. This is what we came up with, please feel free to comment or post alternatives, if possible with a link as to where to purchase the music that you feel is ideal for this purpose. We also looked for reviews that we felt agreed with what we hear in the recordings. Sound stage and definition 1. Carmen Gomes inc; '' I'm on fire'' from Thousand Shades of Blue Sound Liaison Music Shop Placement is perfect on this young audiophile classic as well as the near perfect natural recording of the voice, but the real test for audio equipment when listening to this recording is it's ability to separate the kickdrum from the upright bass. The two instruments are playing the same pattern. On less than optimum equipment it might be difficult to separate the two, but with good setup you clearly hear the upright at 10.00 and the kick dead center with a nice decay that one generally do not hear on commercial recordings. There are lots of speakers and headphones with ''extended lows'' but low with definition is a whole different ballgame. Hifi; 2 Alban berg Quartet; Bartok String Quartet no.1 in a minor 1th movement. (LP,EMI) in the beginning of this movement the 4 instruments all play mainly in the same middle and upper register. Despite all that mid and high information the music should not sound harsh. This recording has the same perfect sound stage as the Carmen Gomes recording. We believe that this kind of sound stage with such a sense of depth and realistic placement is only attainable when you are recording the musicians in one room at the same time. There's this bizarre idea that only "perfect" recordings are suitable for evaluating systems ... "Enjoy your test drive in the new, super-refined WMB vehicle, sir - I recommend you drive on the new motorway; it's billard table flat, with no curves at all - that will tell you everything you need to know about how this car drives ..." Yes but it is nice to get this kind of suggestions; Link to comment
Popular Post PAP Posted February 11, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2018 On 1/24/2018 at 10:16 PM, semente said: I think it should be renamed "Recordings That Sound Good". It could, no problem, but the idea is not only good sounding recordings as much as recordings you find good sounding but also are useful in other areas concerning audio setup and equipment. blue2 and Mshenay 2 Link to comment
Spacehound Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 This is good, but not from YouTube of course (you can get it on Tidal): Link to comment
blue2 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Which recording are you referring to? There seem to be 3 possibilities: Stockfisch Records CD - Sara K. & Chris Jones "Nautilustour 2002" DVD - Sara K. & Chris Jones - in concert Or this CD available on Amazon and elsewhere Sara K The Chesky Collection Anyone heard these with a recommendation? 🎸🎶🏔️🐺 Link to comment
Spacehound Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, blue2 said: Which recording are you referring to? There seem to be 3 possibilities: Stockfisch Records CD - Sara K. & Chris Jones "Nautilustour 2002" DVD - Sara K. & Chris Jones - in concert Or this CD available on Amazon and elsewhere Sara K The Chesky Collection Anyone heard these with a recommendation? It's off Sara K's "Are we there yet?" and from a live public performance and sounds much 'nicer' than any other version I've heard. I presume the YouTube one is the same but obviously YouTube won't be as 'resolving' whatever that is. Link to comment
PAP Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 13/2/2018 at 11:13 AM, Spacehound said: It's off Sara K's "Are we there yet?" and from a live public performance and sounds much 'nicer' than any other version I've heard. I presume the YouTube one is the same but obviously YouTube won't be as 'resolving' whatever that is. Sarah K‘s albums are generally very well recorded. To my ears the YouTube version has less depth, is not as wide, voice sounds way better in hi-res.....etc christian u 1 Link to comment
PAP Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 I hope Stockfish will get into Hi-res downloads as well. It would be very convenient. blue2 1 Link to comment
PAP Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 On 6/26/2017 at 12:16 AM, PAP said: I tend to agree. Drums often sounds very boxed in, and spread out over the whole stereo field and the snare sounding like something from outer space. I love the drum sound on the Carmen Gomes album mentioned above. It is very real. Maybe it has to do with the A/B recording technique. Check the kick drum on ''A Fool for You'' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf_S2l3Y_lM and the sound of the whole kit on the drum feature ''Cottonfields''. carmen-gomes-sings-the-blues samples I mean even the mp3 samples sounds decent. The DXD download is fabulous. And it is the other way around with Sound Liaison they should get in to vinyl Link to comment
PAP Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 On 3/1/2018 at 2:37 PM, christian u said: Great album. Superb arrangements played by master musicians and well recorded too. It is a great concept ”live in the studio“, it's the best of both worlds. On 3/11/2018 at 12:24 AM, PAP said: Sounds good. How about jazz clubs with weekly jazz performances are they still around in your area? Here the studio is the jazzclub Wild Man Blues oso 1 Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 someone on another site posted that cymbal crashes could be very diagnostic (he was talking about good analog vs. digital tho) Link to comment
fas42 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Ralf11 said: someone on another site posted that cymbal crashes could be very diagnostic (he was talking about good analog vs. digital tho) This is a goody, Most high end rigs will run screaming, as far away from this as possible - but it's a good test ... . Link to comment
wwaldmanfan Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I have a number of albums that are very well recorded and mastered with which I am very familiar. These are my reference recordings for any adjustments I make to hardware or playback. These three CD's by Rickie Lee Jones are among my favorites: S/T (WB 3296-2) Pirates (WB 3432-2) Flying Cowboys (Geffen 924246-2) Analyzed folder: Rickie Lee Jones/Flying Cowboys (Geffen 9 24246-2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR19 -3.25 dB -26.42 dB 01 The Horses.aiff DR13 -9.19 dB -25.86 dB 02 Just My Baby.aiff DR24 -0.55 dB -26.59 dB 03 Ghetto Of My Mind.aiff DR16 -6.79 dB -25.98 dB 04 Rodeo Girl.aiff DR17 -4.66 dB -25.15 dB 05 Satellites.aiff DR18 -7.53 dB -32.43 dB 06 Ghost Train.aiff DR16 -6.05 dB -24.18 dB 07 Flying Cowboys.aiff DR14 -8.79 dB -26.33 dB 08 Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying.aiff DR19 -4.11 dB -25.35 dB 09 Love Is Gonna Bring Us Back Alive.aiff DR17 -6.45 dB -29.29 dB 10 Away From The Sky.aiff DR14 -4.39 dB -24.25 dB 11 Atlas' Marker.aiff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of files: 11 Official DR value: DR17 Link to comment
GUTB Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Key areas of system performance: - Timbre - Dynamics - Resolution - Imaging (I don't believe in PRaT in digital systems). Quality of the recording generally won't effect timbre, but it matters in all other categories which is why audiophiles insist on high quality recordings. Link to comment
Priaptor Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 6:29 PM, PAP said: I hope Stockfish will get into Hi-res downloads as well. It would be very convenient. I couldn't agree more. I have given up on them. I have been requesting it from them for the last 4 years always to be met with the same "we are a small company and have NO intention to change our ways". In fact they used to do some downloads on highresaudio and have stopped that. Link to comment
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