The Computer Audiophile Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I'm sure most people have seen Prince's solo on this track from the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame performance. For some reason I'd forgotten this was also available as a lossless audio track and I just re-found it today on Tidal and Qobuz. Enjoy if you haven't already. Qobuz - https://open.qobuz.com/album/0610583435122 Tidal - https://tidal.com/browse/album/33269298 skipspence 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
botrytis Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Prince was an amazing writer, musician, etc. He didn't have to blow his horn. The Computer Audiophile 1 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
Popular Post botrytis Posted October 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2020 I have seen Prince Live. He was such an amazing entertainer and his guitar playing was just amazing. christopher3393 and The Computer Audiophile 2 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
blue2 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Jeff Healey Band knocks it out the park! George & Eric live in Japan 1992 nice one. Other versions are available 😉 even on ukulele! 🎸🎶🏔️🐺 Link to comment
joelha Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Tremendous find, Chris. Thanks for bringing this everyone's attention. I'm going to download it although I'm not sure why what appears to be the same track is listed twice. Thanks a lot. Joel The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
skipspence Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 21 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I'm sure most people have seen Prince's solo on this track from the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame performance. For some reason I'd forgotten this was also available as a lossless audio track and I just re-found it today on Tidal and Qobuz. Enjoy if you haven't already. Qobuz - https://open.qobuz.com/album/0610583435122 Tidal - https://tidal.com/browse/album/33269298 Tried to load the album in Tidal Android application but strangely Tidal won't find it there... Great performance otherwise!! Audio System Link to comment
57gold Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Very nice performance, particularly Pettys' and Lynne's vocals. Marc Mann, the guy who played all the EC parts in the song and solo in middle did justice to these iconic lines. I remember being impressed by Prince's jam at the end when I watched this years ago, great showmanship, stage moves and guitar face. No doubt a brilliant musician and band leader. One of the slickest, tightest and in the pocket shows I have ever witnessed was Prince with his band at the Seminole Hard Rock, where he warmed up for his Super Bowl 2007 performance. But seeing this again and listening critically, I'm feeling his showmanship gets an A and the playing a B, a bunch of wailing on Am pentatonic licks with a lot of gain and some effects...no doubt with great feel, but musically light. But I have noticed in most cases, that's what the crowd wants in rock n' roll. Tone with Soul Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 Very interesting take. Can you explain to this non musician what musically light means? P.S. I wish I new how to play just one instrument. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
ShawnC Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 6 hours ago, 57gold said: But seeing this again and listening critically, I'm feeling his showmanship gets an A and the playing a B, a bunch of wailing on Am pentatonic licks with a lot of gain and some effects...no doubt with great feel, but musically light. But I have noticed in most cases, that's what the crowd wants in rock n' roll. I wouldn't be to critical about it. It's about improving with no rehearsal. The musicians who were playing with him, loved it. https://ultimateclassicrock.com/tom-petty-prince-hall-of-fame/ For a different point of view on solos. Here's 3 different versions of the "Stairway to Heaven" solo. Kind of fun to watch created by Rick Beato. blue2 1 Computer setup - Roon/Qobuz - PS Audio P5 Regenerator - HIFI Rose 250A Streamer - Emotiva XPA-2 Harbeth P3ESR XD - Rel R-528 Sub Comfy Chair - Schitt Jotunheim - Meze Audio Empyrean w/Mitch Barnett's Accurate Sound FilterSet Link to comment
57gold Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 ShawnC - Each player's take on SWTH solo on Beato's video was an attempt at instilling each player's style and offer some harmonic complexity whilst taking on one of Pagey's best composed solos. Interestingly, SWTH and WMGGW solo vamps are very similar in structure with descending line starting on same chord Am, same key. To me, the EC solo which Jeff Lynne's bandmate plays in the performance is far more compelling and lyrical. Prince steps out of the shadows at the end of the tune and does Prince, the performer in his red hat taking over the stage with a group of kind of stodgy white guys (many of them English, which may be the stodgiest version of white guys) and jams with what are generally believed to be "guitarisms": pull offs, octave bends (stretching one string up a couple of steps to meet the note of the higher string that is held, which gets that kind of screeching sound), big bends, simple but fast repetitive riffs...stuff that guitarists can do easily, but other instruments aren't built for. All to good dramatic effect, but just Am pentatonic "wanking". Understand that Prince's performance was unrehearsed and he surprises the players on the stage with a kind of "Jimi does WMGGW" with the dancing around the stage, back bend, guitar face...it worked and the audience and I loved it when I first heard it, because it was such a contrast to the almost religious homage Petty, Lynne, Dhani and band delivered the tune before Prince steps up to the plate. As a 40+ year guitar player, one who continues to work on improving (currently studying with two jazz instructors on taking my rock/blues base into a deeper understanding of music), I did what these guys have helped me understand, which is analysis of tunes. Like, what is Coltrane or Monk or Metheny playing? I applied this type of analysis to Prince's solo, which harmonically is pretty simple, unlike say Eric Johnson's attempt at SWTH, which is more complex than Pagey's but less compelling. ShawnC's advice is sound, just enjoy it. I have often been surprised when playing at my regular jam that audiences respond very favorably when I keep solos relatively simple and do not unload musical complexity (the stuff my jazz instructors live for). What I mean is that, say sax player steps up and are jamming on Cissy Strut, a simple vamp in C7. One can play Prince-like Cm pentatonic with bends, fast runs, repeated pull offs... rock guitar hero stuff or do what John Scofield would do, play around the tonal center with tensions like the tritone substitute or insert the altered 5th chord tonality or play diminished riffs and then resolve to C7 (Sco would use them all and more, listen to his stuff with MM&W). The latter is much harder to pull off musically and to some, you can end up with what my wife calls "headache jazz". For rock guitar guys, a comparison would be SRV versus Robben Ford, SRV stayed simple with great feeling and a signature technique that he put together from Albert, BB King & Co. versus Robben who played with Miles and other jazz guys and inserts jazz harmony in his riffs and comping. Neither better, just different like Chianti Classico or Barbaresco, one can like them both, which I do. Have dozens of recording of both and have attended multiple performances of each. Gonna go play some guitar. christopher3393 1 Tone with Soul Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, 57gold said: ShawnC - Each player's take on SWTH solo on Beato's video was an attempt at instilling each player's style and offer some harmonic complexity whilst taking on one of Pagey's best composed solos. Interestingly, SWTH and WMGGW solo vamps are very similar in structure with descending line starting on same chord Am, same key. To me, the EC solo which Jeff Lynne's bandmate plays in the performance is far more compelling and lyrical. Prince steps out of the shadows at the end of the tune and does Prince, the performer in his red hat taking over the stage with a group of kind of stodgy white guys (many of them English, which may be the stodgiest version of white guys) and jams with what are generally believed to be "guitarisms": pull offs, octave bends (stretching one string up a couple of steps to meet the note of the higher string that is held, which gets that kind of screeching sound), big bends, simple but fast repetitive riffs...stuff that guitarists can do easily, but other instruments aren't built for. All to good dramatic effect, but just Am pentatonic "wanking". Understand that Prince's performance was unrehearsed and he surprises the players on the stage with a kind of "Jimi does WMGGW" with the dancing around the stage, back bend, guitar face...it worked and the audience and I loved it when I first heard it, because it was such a contrast to the almost religious homage Petty, Lynne, Dhani and band delivered the tune before Prince steps up to the plate. As a 40+ year guitar player, one who continues to work on improving (currently studying with two jazz instructors on taking my rock/blues base into a deeper understanding of music), I did what these guys have helped me understand, which is analysis of tunes. Like, what is Coltrane or Monk or Metheny playing and I applied this type of analysis to Prince's solo, which harmonically is pretty simple, unlike say Eric Johnson's attempt at SWTH, which is more complex than Pagey's but less compelling. ShawnC's advice is sound, just enjoy it. I have often been surprised when playing at my regular jam that audiences respond very favorably when I keep solos relatively simple and do not unload musical complexity (the stuff my jazz instructors live for). What I mean is that, say sax player steps up and are jamming on Cissy Strut, a simple vamp in C7. One can play Prince-like Cm pentatonic with bends, fast runs, repeated pull offs... rock guitar hero stuff or do what John Scofield would do, play around the tonal center with tensions like the tritone substitute or insert the altered 5th chord tonality or play diminished riffs and then resolve to C7 (Scott would use them all). The latter is much harder to pull off musically and to some, you can end up with what my wife calls "headache jazz". For rock guitar guys, a comparison would be SRV versus Robben Ford, SRV stayed simple with great feeling and a signature technique that he put together from Albert, BB King & Co. versus Robben who played with Miles and other jazz guys and inserts jazz harmony in his riffs and comping. Neither better, just different like Chianti Classico or Barbaresco, one can like them both, which I do. Have dozens of recording of both and have attended multiple performances of each. Gonna go play some guitar. I love this post as it touches on something I've been thinking about since I read your first post and also reminds me of my stance that art can't be judged, only appreciated (or not) and enjoyed (or not). It's also fantastic that you have interests/skills on both sides of the issue (listener and artist). As crazy as this sounds, it's a little like the objectivist guys who like components that measure better even though this better measurement can't be heard. Guitarists seem to like harder to play material, just because it's harder to play and objectivists like better measuring gear because it's harder to design. There's no right or wrong, just different people with different background liking different things. For example, this track from King Crimson is incredibly boring to me and the opposite of enjoyable. Yet, many guitarists fawn over it. Think about how the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame performance would've been if this track would've been played rather than what was played. The guitarists in the audience would have loved it much more. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post 57gold Posted October 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2020 Yup, good music is what moves you. Found the King Crimson piece interesting but it wouldn't get played in my music room for enjoyment. There is a lot of room between Prince's solo and the KC performance...like what Eric Johnson might have played or say Satriani in his more lyrical moments, like his 1995 album Satriani, which upon recent re listening is great soulful playing, where technique takes a back seat (one to check out). Still one of my favorite guitarist, bar none, is Keef. What he does with his chord work and riffs which are the foundation of all great Stones tunes, is harmonically simple but immediately identifiable and kick ass. The guy almost can't play lead parts, but what he does is great. And he surprises you, like with this performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXUO_GAV2mQ The Computer Audiophile and christopher3393 1 1 Tone with Soul Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 30 minutes ago, 57gold said: Yup, good music is what moves you. Found the King Crimson piece interesting but it wouldn't get played in my music room for enjoyment. There is a lot of room between Prince's solo and the KC performance...like what Eric Johnson might have played or say Satriani in his more lyrical moments, like his 1995 album Satriani, which upon recent re listening is great soulful playing, where technique takes a back seat (one to check out). Still one of my favorite guitarist, bar none, is Keef. What he does with his chord work and riffs which are the foundation of all great Stones tunes, is harmonically simple but immediately identifiable and kick ass. The guy almost can't play lead parts, but what he does is great. And he surprises you, like with this performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXUO_GAV2mQ Agree 100% Several years ago when @Jud visited my house, he played a Stones tune for me, where KR delayed his playing a split second to make the track magic. Stuff like this is golden. Jud 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
firedog Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I love this post as it touches on something I've been thinking about since I read your first post and also reminds me of my stance that art can't be judged, only appreciated (or not) and enjoyed (or not). It's also fantastic that you have interests/skills on both sides of the issue (listener and artist). As crazy as this sounds, it's a little like the objectivist guys who like components that measure better even though this better measurement can't be heard. Guitarists seem to like harder to play material, just because it's harder to play and objectivists like better measuring gear because it's harder to design. There's no right or wrong, just different people with different background liking different things. For example, this track from King Crimson is incredibly boring to me and the opposite of enjoyable. Yet, many guitarists fawn over it. Think about how the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame performance would've been if this track would've been played rather than what was played. The guitarists in the audience would have loved it much more. 44 minutes ago, 57gold said: Yup, good music is what moves you. Found the King Crimson piece interesting but it wouldn't get played in my music room for enjoyment. There is a lot of room between Prince's solo and the KC performance...like what Eric Johnson might have played or say Satriani in his more lyrical moments, like his 1995 album Satriani, which upon recent re listening is great soulful playing, where technique takes a back seat (one to check out). Still one of my favorite guitarist, bar none, is Keef. What he does with his chord work and riffs which are the foundation of all great Stones tunes, is harmonically simple but immediately identifiable and kick ass. The guy almost can't play lead parts, but what he does is great. And he surprises you, like with this performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXUO_GAV2mQ 12 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Agree 100% Several years ago when @Jud visited my house, he played a Stones tune for me, where KR delayed his playing a split second to make the track magic. Stuff like this is golden. I like them all. The Computer Audiophile 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Bill Brown Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 I have always loved when he throws his guitar into the air at the end. Wondered for years who caught it :) Bill The Computer Audiophile 1 Labels assigned by CA members: "Cogley's ML sock-puppet," "weaponizer of psychology," "ethically-challenged," "professionally dubious," "machismo," "lover of old westerns," "shill," "expert on ducks and imposters," "Janitor in Chief," "expert in Karate," "ML fanboi or employee," "Alabama Trump supporter with an NRA decal on the windshield of his car," sycophant Link to comment
Popular Post 57gold Posted October 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2020 In most bands, players follow the drummer, with the Stones, everyone follows Keith including Charlie! His timing, syncopation, swing make the tunes work. Pet Townsend was in the similar position with The Who, laying down the rhythm while Entwhistle and Moon played never ending solos and fills. christopher3393, Superdad, The Computer Audiophile and 1 other 3 1 Tone with Soul Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted May 3, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 New director's cut video out now. zyberguran, Bill Brown and ShawnC 1 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Qhwoeprktiyns Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 On 10/24/2020 at 4:44 PM, 57gold said: ShawnC - Each player's take on SWTH solo on Beato's video was an attempt at instilling each player's style and offer some harmonic complexity whilst taking on one of Pagey's best composed solos. Interestingly, SWTH and WMGGW solo vamps are very similar in structure with descending line starting on same chord Am, same key. To me, the EC solo which Jeff Lynne's bandmate plays in the performance is far more compelling and lyrical. Prince steps out of the shadows at the end of the tune and does Prince, the performer in his red hat taking over the stage with a group of kind of stodgy white guys (many of them English, which may be the stodgiest version of white guys) and jams with what are generally believed to be "guitarisms": pull offs, octave bends (stretching one string up a couple of steps to meet the note of the higher string that is held, which gets that kind of screeching sound), big bends, simple but fast repetitive riffs...stuff that guitarists can do easily, but other instruments aren't built for. All to good dramatic effect, but just Am pentatonic "wanking". Understand that Prince's performance was unrehearsed and he surprises the players on the stage with a kind of "Jimi does WMGGW" with the dancing around the stage, back bend, guitar face...it worked and the audience and I loved it when I first heard it, because it was such a contrast to the almost religious homage Petty, Lynne, Dhani and band delivered the tune before Prince steps up to the plate. As a 40+ year guitar player, one who continues to work on improving (currently studying with two jazz instructors on taking my rock/blues base into a deeper understanding of music), I did what these guys have helped me understand, which is analysis of tunes. Like, what is Coltrane or Monk or Metheny playing? I applied this type of analysis to Prince's solo, which harmonically is pretty simple, unlike say Eric Johnson's attempt at SWTH, which is more complex than Pagey's but less compelling. ShawnC's advice is sound, just enjoy it. I have often been surprised when playing at my regular jam that audiences respond very favorably when I keep solos relatively simple and do not unload musical complexity (the stuff my jazz instructors live for). What I mean is that, say sax player steps up and are jamming on Cissy Strut, a simple vamp in C7. One can play Prince-like Cm pentatonic with bends, fast runs, repeated pull offs... rock guitar hero stuff or do what John Scofield would do, play around the tonal center with tensions like the tritone substitute or insert the altered 5th chord tonality or play diminished riffs and then resolve to C7 (Sco would use them all and more, listen to his stuff with MM&W). The latter is much harder to pull off musically and to some, you can end up with what my wife calls "headache jazz". For rock guitar guys, a comparison would be SRV versus Robben Ford, SRV stayed simple with great feeling and a signature technique that he put together from Albert, BB King & Co. versus Robben who played with Miles and other jazz guys and inserts jazz harmony in his riffs and comping. Neither better, just different like Chianti Classico or Barbaresco, one can like them both, which I do. Have dozens of recording of both and have attended multiple performances of each. Gonna go play some guitar. Prince's solo is flashy, fun, and even if he resorts to gimmicks it is still highly enjoyeable. "Energy" is something difficult to qualify, and does not have much to do with technique... Think of Paul Gonsalves at Newport - his solo was not terribly interesting either, but he practically created a riot. The most interesting part of Prince's solo, IMO, is the end, from 5:30, and especially 5:40 when he plays more rythmically, these lower chords - too bad it ends at that point, he could have really started jamming. Link to comment
57gold Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 On 5/11/2021 at 4:10 PM, hopkins said: Prince's solo is flashy, fun, and even if he resorts to gimmicks it is still highly enjoyeable. "Energy" is something difficult to qualify, and does not have much to do with technique... Think of Paul Gonsalves at Newport - his solo was not terribly interesting either, but he practically created a riot. The most interesting part of Prince's solo, IMO, is the end, from 5:30, and especially 5:40 when he plays more rythmically, these lower chords - too bad it ends at that point, he could have really started jamming. Never heard of the "famous PG solo", but found it with some cool commentary on youtube. After an orchestrated intro, 27 bars of I IV V in Db (though a score I found has it in C), simplest blues changes in the world (or though, come to think of it Muddy and John Lee Hooker could jam forever on the I). Almost straight pentatonics, a bit of chromatics and in several turnarounds some superimposed II Vs...pretty rootsy versus what Parker, Coltrane, Cannonball, Henderson, Rollins...would have played in that era. Sure got the crowd pumped, like Prince doing simple stuff. Someone smart said, "it's not what you play, it's how you play it." Qhwoeprktiyns 1 Tone with Soul Link to comment
Allan F Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/11/2021 at 1:10 PM, hopkins said: To me, the EC solo which Jeff Lynne's bandmate plays in the performance is far more compelling and lyrical. Prince steps out of the shadows at the end of the tune and does Prince, the performer in his red hat taking over the stage with a group of kind of stodgy white guys (many of them English, which may be the stodgiest version of white guys) and jams with what are generally believed to be "guitarisms": pull offs, octave bends (stretching one string up a couple of steps to meet the note of the higher string that is held, which gets that kind of screeching sound), big bends, simple but fast repetitive riffs...stuff that guitarists can do easily, but other instruments aren't built for. All to good dramatic effect, but just Am pentatonic "wanking". WHAT A COMPLETE AND TOTAL UNMITIGATED LOAD OF CRAP! (shouting intended) And, BTW, thanks for telling us what guitar "bends" are. I am sure the members of this forum, in our collective ignorance, really needed this explanation from one so obviously and uniquely knowledgeable as yourself. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
Qhwoeprktiyns Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 You incorrectly attributed the above comments to me. Don't know how that happened Link to comment
Iving Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Looks like Allan slipped into a quote within a quote problem. On 10/24/2020 at 3:44 PM, 57gold said: a group of kind of stodgy white guys (many of them English, which may be the stodgiest version of white guys) and jams with what are generally believed to be "guitarisms": pull offs, octave bends (stretching one string up a couple of steps to meet the note of the higher string that is held, which gets that kind of screeching sound) I'm indifferent to someone telling me what I already know about bends, riffs and Prince. But the bit about "stodgy white guys (many of them English, which may be the stodgiest version of white guys)" is - obviously tho' - "COMPLETE AND TOTAL UNMITIGATED CRAP!" :-) The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
57gold Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Watch the video prior to Prince's appearance, it seems like they are doing homage in the church of The Beatles, restrained and, well kinda stodgy. Then Prince dramatically changes the vibe. Can't see that? Also will note the earlier praise of the stodgy white guy authored melodic lead and breaks, originally performed by EC and covered by a guy who I'm guessing is English versus the streams of classic rock, energetic wankery played by Prince. All good if one likes show over substance. Was underscoring the stylistic juxtaposition in the performance with some hyperbole. I keep forgetting it's a woke world of hypersensitive folks who see incorrectness in every corner. Must be hard. Posted by a stodgy white guy, who grew up in what some might call the USA's stodgiest state, CT. Tone with Soul Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 33 minutes ago, 57gold said: Watch the video prior to Prince's appearance, it seems like they are doing homage in the church of The Beatles, restrained and, well kinda stodgy. Then Prince dramatically changes the vibe. Can't see that? Also will note the earlier praise of the stodgy white guy authored melodic lead and breaks, originally performed by EC and covered by a guy who I'm guessing is English versus the streams of classic rock, energetic wankery played by Prince. All good if one likes show over substance. Was underscoring the stylistic juxtaposition in the performance with some hyperbole. I keep forgetting it's a woke world of hypersensitive folks who see incorrectness in every corner. Must be hard. Posted by a stodgy white guy, who grew up in what some might call the USA's stodgiest state, CT. I take no issue with what you've said :~) I see Prince's part as very colorful and entertaining in a sea of monochrome awards show style boring performances. Sure, it's art and there's no such thing as good/bad/better/worse, it's up to us as viewers to decide what we think of it. It may be mundane for those learned in guitar playing, but for entertainment value for us plebeians, it's absolute gold. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Iving Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 58 minutes ago, 57gold said: Prince dramatically changes the vibe. Can't see that? Already saw it 58 minutes ago, 57gold said: Also will note the earlier praise of the stodgy white guy authored melodic lead and breaks, originally performed by EC and covered by a guy who I'm guessing is English versus the streams of classic rock, energetic wankery played by Prince. All good if one likes show over substance. Was underscoring the stylistic juxtaposition in the performance with some hyperbole. Got it 59 minutes ago, 57gold said: I keep forgetting it's a woke world of hypersensitive folks who see incorrectness in every corner. Must be hard. Honestly it was nothing but a trans-Atlantic joke in the wake of Allan F's Hopkins faux pas (and shouty disapproval of your commentary). Nothing more. If I were stodgy (and English) I might have taken it personally. But actually I'm pretty slim and gorgeous (and more than half Irish). So no harm done. 1 hour ago, 57gold said: Posted by a stodgy white guy, who grew up in what some might call the USA's stodgiest state, CT. Greetings and much AS love x Link to comment
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