Munich High End Show 2017

[miguelito]

1 hour ago, #Yoda# said:

IMO, the most impressive and dynamic speakers of the show this year: Avantgarde Acoustic's Trio with Bass Horn.

 

I have Duo Mezzo and played Carmina Burana at not-so-modest levels and the dynamic range and resolution of horns was in full display. Amazing.  

 

What did they play?

[miguelito]

4 hours ago, wdw said:

I'm no prude by any stretch at all but I suspect this may be offensive to any woman reading this site.  Zappa was a brilliant musician and one of the greatest guitarist of our generation but the puerile lyrics simply distracted from his  genius.

Neither am I a prude at all. I did think the reply was crass and without merit. Some people just have no sense of style. 

[Miska]

19 minutes ago, miguelito said:

Is this some form of NAA or RAAT where both ends of the protocol are licensed?

 

Sort of, but completely different kind of protocol from NAA. Mostly because it is designed for different kind of use case and requirements.

 

Biggest difference is clocking. NAA is never trying to distribute clock over network, clock is exclusively at DAC side. There is no clock on the network at all with NAA. This creates restriction that you can output only to single DAC because there can never be more than one master clock. While Ravenna is targeted to work in multi-endpoint scenario with multiple DACs and ADCs and the clock is distributed on the network and everybody else is slaved to that clock.

 

[edbk]

31 minutes ago, Nikhil said:

 

This is useful info.  There was something off today.

Yes, the funniest thing is the show rules are you're allowed to generate a maximum sound level of 75dB in these porta cabins giving you a ~10dB dynamic range lol, i dont think there are many there following those rules to the letter :-)

[Miska]

5 minutes ago, edbk said:

Yes, the funniest thing is the show rules are you're allowed to generate a maximum sound level of 75dB in these porta cabins giving you a ~10dB dynamic range lol, i dont think there are many there following those rules to the letter :-)

 

At least in those atrium rooms many neighboring rooms were severely disturbing and spoiling other room's experience. Like I think Dali (the speaker manufacturer) was having some action movie stuff at realistic sound pressure levels with subwoofers and explosions with floor shaking in the neighboring room. Now try to listen to some small scale jazz in that kind of environment...

 

(not far away Marantz/Denon was also having some loud multichannel action movie shit going on)

[edbk]

18 minutes ago, Miska said:

 

At least in those atrium rooms many neighboring rooms were severely disturbing and spoiling other room's experience. Like I think Dali (the speaker manufacturer) was having some action movie stuff at realistic sound pressure levels with subwoofers and explosions with floor shaking in the neighboring room. Now try to listen to some small scale jazz in that kind of environment...

 

(not far away Marantz/Denon was also having some loud multichannel action movie shit going on)

Ascendo too! Luckily for their neighbours their monster 50" subwoofer was only displayed ?

[ShawnC]

6 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

Bryston wins ... what, exactly?

From Chris's posted picture it shows a top 5 no CD's allowed to played on a playlist.  Something that was recently brought up in another thread, same old stuff gets played again and again at these events.

[Nikhil]

4 hours ago, Miska said:

 

At least in those atrium rooms many neighboring rooms were severely disturbing and spoiling other room's experience. 

 

+1 

 

The CH Precision room had a nice demo of a Japanese room treatment.  The demo was completely disturbed by the nearby room.

 

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

Really good sound in this room. PMC AVM. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

Wadax 

[The Computer Audiophile]

Moon by Simaudio 780D DAC. Very underrated by many people. Great stuff. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

McIntosh static display

[m5sime]

49 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Really good sound in this room. PMC AVM. 

I love PMC speakers and AVM is their new distribution.  I thought the Bristol UK HiFi show sounded overly forced with the pairing.  Sounds like this version is better 

[The Computer Audiophile]

More Constellation Audio Leo. I really like this product. The sound quality really is something the other products in the category haven't matched. I listened for quite a while this afternoon. 

 

Edit: Constellation is shooting for fall 2017 release and less than $5,000 MSRP. 

 

The silver color is wonderful. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

Always a place for Levinson in my audiophile heart. 

[jtwrace]

5 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

More Constellation Audio Leo. I really like this product. The sound quality really is something the other products in the category haven't matched. I listened for quite a while this afternoon. 

 

Edit: Constellation is shooting for fall 2017 release and less than $5,000 MSRP. 

 

The silver color is wonderful. 

Man jewelry.  

[The Computer Audiophile]

Tidal (pronounced Tee-dahl by many). Good sound in here. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

2 minutes ago, jtwrace said:

Man jewelry.  

 

Not at all. In person it's nothing like the bling jewelry of other components in HiFi. 

[firedog]

23 hours ago, Jud said:

OK, who's got the new Sgt Pepper hi res ripped and playing?  (Along the lines of your discussion about why people don't play music at shows that might have some popularity and appeal.  If I heard "Pepper" coming out of a room, I'd run to get there.)

Not released yet. Only person I've heard of that has it is Michel Fremer, and he has connections.

[The Computer Audiophile]

I just ran into @joelha at the show. Thanks for chatting about our wonderful hobby!

[christopher3393]

1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

More Constellation Audio Leo

 

Design by Lobachevsky?

[The Computer Audiophile]

I just thought of an idea I would love to see at shows. Manufacturers may not like it, but here it goes: a large touchscreen at the door where people can add songs to the queue and wait to hear their songs. I would listen to way more stuff for way longer if this was in place. 

[m5sime]

Hi @The Computer Audiophile Chris, any chance of finding out more about the new Brooklyn Class D Amp from Mytek? Many of us here have the Brooklyn DAC. 

 

http://www.monoandstereo.com/2017/05/new-mytek-brooklyn-amplifier.html?m=1

 

I wonder who's class D tech inside? Eg ncore. 

 

Thank you!! 

[rando]

Quote

I just thought of an idea I would love to see at shows. Manufacturers may not like it, but here it goes: a large touchscreen at the door where people can add songs to the queue and wait to hear their songs. I would listen to way more stuff for way longer if this was in place. 

 

At that point the experience would have to be accurately virtualized to work.  One man's acceptable intake of Zappa is another's unmusical test track across all systems.

 

Thanks for the live blogging of this event.  Have you been taking any phone videos or doing interviews?  Some of these rooms might benefit more from a short video than, especially in lower or colored light, trying to slow down long enough to shoot accurate photos.  Just an idea for supplemental material and reason to carry a second unconnected phone to shows.  

[PeterSt]

30 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

I just thought of an idea I would love to see at shows. Manufacturers may not like it, but here it goes: a large touchscreen at the door where people can add songs to the queue and wait to hear their songs. I would listen to way more stuff for way longer if this was in place. 

 

Yes, I have been pondering with the exact same idea. But at the time I thought of it back at the time and prior to a show, there wasn't enough time left to make such a feature.

And thinking of it ... while we "digitus'" would be able to even automate it, LP exhibitors would have a slightly large problem; especially in preparing (what's their library ?).

 

In practice it will bring a couple of more problems because in the end this is what I did with a show a few weeks back, but at inviting the auditioners. For example, you need to know your turn (say in 32 minutes) but meanwhile nothing can interfere much or you are waiting for another 30 minutes for your Pearl Jam, while Beethoven and Mozart play (never together though ). In the end this gets messy because if you have to wait too long you want to bail out (or just don't show up).

Anyway, this really needs an "application" and it won't be super simple.