Building a DIY Music Server

[flowcharts]

@StreamFidelity it's definitely something that would need to be worked around.  In my current build, the height the Streacom HT4 riser adds would allow it to clear my ram with heatsink covers intalled.  I would like to eventually transition over to the HDPlex cooling solution, maybe with some creative heatpipe bending?

[StreamFidelity]

3 hours ago, flowcharts said:

I would like to eventually transition over to the HDPlex cooling solution, maybe with some creative heatpipe bending?

 

I would use a different motherboard. All the designs with custom heatpipes bendings I saw so far were not pretty. 

[MarcelNL]

does anyone know if the Asus ROF crosshair viii x570 is compatible with the Apacer ECC (unbuffered) RAM?

 

would be a shame to buy it for 18direct phases and PCIe external power to find out I now have two sets of RAM that are incompatible (have a ECC Buffered set lying aorud already)

 

 

[drjimwillie]

The SK Hynix P31 2TB is selling for $119 on Amazon, that is about $100 off the regular selling price.
 

[MarcelNL]

so the Asus rog VIII extreme does accept ECC (unbuffered) RAM...big question is....is it worth the 300 euro over the Gigabyte Aorus master that has 16 direct phases vs 18 on the Asus while both have external PCIe power input....60A power vs 90 A...

 

power is king in digital so I'm inclined to give it a go with the Asus

[JackJohnson316]

I’m selling my Sean Jacobs linear power supply DC3/4 with DC4 regulator modules, DC4 recaps, and Mundorf silver gold internal wiring. Two legs both 5v that I used to power my Jcat and Pink Faun pcie cards in my DIY server. It’s a terrific, at the top of the list, LPS for anyone looking to build a DIY server. Thanks 

 

[Exocer]

17 minutes ago, JackJohnson316 said:

I’m selling my Sean Jacobs linear power supply DC3/4 with DC4 regulator modules, DC4 recaps, and Mundorf silver gold internal wiring. Two legs both 5v that I used to power my Jcat and Pink Faun pcie cards in my DIY server. It’s a terrific, at the top of the list, LPS for anyone looking to build a DIY server. Thanks 

 

Good luck with the sale!

 

 

[littlej0e]

On 3/20/2023 at 4:07 PM, drjimwillie said:

The SK Hynix P31 2TB is selling for $119 on Amazon, that is about $100 off the regular selling price.
 

 

I picked up two of these during a similar sale a while back. The main reason I did so is they have significantly lower power consumption compared to nearly every other similarly spec'd M.2 drive on the market. However, this may have been a poor choice as one of the key design aspects of the C621E build is not restricting power the same way an ultra low power build would.

 

Guess I'll find out soon enough. 

 

 

 

[JJSim]

It would be an interesting comparison between low power yet slower/higher latency drives vs high power yet faster/lower latency drives. For example, the Intel Optane P5800X is the lowest latency SSD available, but can draw over 21W when active (for the 1.6TB version, the 400GB version draws 15W).

 

Taiko utilizes the Optane 900P for the OS drive which can draw over 14W, so it's pretty obvious which camp they sit in.

[MarcelNL]

low power draw is nice add on, from my experiments it is low latency and somehow (perhaps directly related to latency) the type of memory cell. Pseudo SLC sounding better than Optane.

[Mops911]

Hdplex 800w DC-ATX:

 

How do you guys power it?

Do you run a separate 12v LPS for EPS?

How did you mount it in a Streatcom FC10 or HDPlex H5?

Bonus ;-) If you run a separate NAA, how "concerned" are you about the power for the HQP server?

 

Cheers

Tom

[Iving]

56 minutes ago, Mops911 said:

Hdplex 800w DC-ATX:

 

How do you guys power it?

Do you run a separate 12v LPS for EPS?

How did you mount it in a Streatcom FC10 or HDPlex H5?

Bonus ;-) If you run a separate NAA, how "concerned" are you about the power for the HQP server?

 

Cheers

Tom

 

Mine from SR7T 19V

Yes - 12V direct CPU

In Streacom F12C (threaded M3 standoffs can be obtained different lengths - they provide a secure mount fixed horizontally - black bolts outside matching case - silver inside matching DC-ATX):

 

 

 

I don't run NAA - offline music PC - HQPlayer Desktop

[Tubeman66]

A Small tip
Buy an SFP NIC that is based on the intel i210 chip
Download the installation script for Takio SFP NIC
Then you have a really good solution for a fraction of what the Taiko NIC costs

And it sounds wonderful

 

Have compared it with Startech SFP NIC
and the Intel card sounds much better

 

 

 

Digitus 10160 SFP Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express Card Network Interface Controller : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

 

 

[MarcelNL]

nice idea!

 

I'd be interested in a direct comparison of this option, the taiko NIC and a passively cooled Solarflare X2522 on low latency setting.

(finally the heatpipe clasp I'm going to modify and use for the solarflare did arrive)

[Tubeman66]

(4) Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème | What's Best Audio and Video Forum. The Best High End Audio Forum on the planet! (whatsbestforum.com)

[MarcelNL]

too bad it's all windows ;-)

[MarcelNL]

another question, did you compare the intel card before and after the Taiko script?

[MarcelNL]

and on another note, these appear fairly generic network settings...pretty sure I came across some of these when adjusting the firmware settings of the Solarflare card....lemme check... 

[VaG]

5 hours ago, Tubeman66 said:

A Small tip
Buy an SFP NIC that is based on the intel i210 chip
Download the installation script for Takio SFP NIC
Then you have a really good solution for a fraction of what the Taiko NIC costs

And it sounds wonderful

 

Have compared it with Startech SFP NIC
and the Intel card sounds much better

 

 

 

Digitus 10160 SFP Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express Card Network Interface Controller : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

 

 

Takio SFP NI = Taiko Audio Extreme Network Card ?

https://taikoaudio.com/taiko-2020/product/taiko-audio-extreme-network-card/

 

[MarcelNL]

38 minutes ago, VaG said:

Takio SFP NI = Taiko Audio Extreme Network Card ?

https://taikoaudio.com/taiko-2020/product/taiko-audio-extreme-network-card/

 

yup

[baconbrain]

9 hours ago, Tubeman66 said:

A Small tip
Buy an SFP NIC that is based on the intel i210 chip
Download the installation script for Takio SFP NIC
Then you have a really good solution for a fraction of what the Taiko NIC costs

And it sounds wonderful

 

Have compared it with Startech SFP NIC
and the Intel card sounds much better

 

 

 

Digitus 10160 SFP Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express Card Network Interface Controller : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

 

 

Good one! Any heat issues with the Digitus Card and which SFP module are you using?

[MarcelNL]

1 hour ago, baconbrain said:

Good one! Any heat issues with the Digitus Card and which SFP module are you using?

most NIC cards are designed for server rooms...so they tend to run hot at ambient temp since server rooms are freezing cold...

I'm having to adapt the Solarflare x2522 with heatsink and heatpipes or it'll cut out in 5 minutes flat due to temp issues.

 

 

[NanoSword]

What is the speed for Taiko Network PCI is it 10G or 100G?

[Nenon]

2 hours ago, NanoSword said:

What is the speed for Taiko Network PCI is it 10G or 100G?

1GbE

 

18 hours ago, MarcelNL said:

I'd be interested in a direct comparison of this option, the taiko NIC and a passively cooled Solarflare X2522 on low latency setting.

The Taiko NIC and switch combo sounds amazing, at least with the Taiko Extreme. IMO, this is the best product Taiko has released so far. But it's not just the NIC as a standalone product, but the whole package. I would not buy the NIC without the switch. The switch consumes less power than an OCXO clock when using a DAC cable. The combo significantly brings down the noise floor. It sounds more dynamic, more realistic, bass gets a lot better, etc.  

 

18 hours ago, Tubeman66 said:

A Small tip
Buy an SFP NIC that is based on the intel i210 chip
Download the installation script for Takio SFP NIC
Then you have a really good solution for a fraction of what the Taiko NIC costs

And it sounds wonderful

I have also suggested to a few people to look at the installation script and try some of those settings. There are equivalent settings for Linux as well. Surprised no one has posted about that yet :).

[seeteeyou]

Not exactly easy to find something with Intel I210AS that could be powered externally without any modifications, maybe this one would be pretty close?

 

https://www.amazon.com/HINYSENO-Ethernet-1000Mbps-Interface-Controller/dp/B09TWC3MJP

 

And then an adapter like this might fit the bill?

 

https://www.amazon.com/GLOTRENDS-Wireless-Adapter-Antenna-Network/dp/B0B6HYW2CB

https://www.glotrends-store.com/products/pci-express-x1-to-mini-pcie-wireless-wlan-bluetooth-adapter-with-35-dbi-sma-antenna

 

Yet another alternative from StarTech.com

 

https://www.startech.com/en-eu/cards-adapters/pex2mpex

https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Express-Mini-Adapter-PEX2MPEX/dp/B006K24RA6

 

Other than that, I also found this industrial grade version with I210AS

 

https://item.jd.com/10067935904179.html

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=697292145809

http://www.gkj-eip.com/prod_view.aspx?nid=3&typeid=184&id=317