MQA is Vaporware

[Kal Rubinson]

16 minutes ago, garrardguy60 said:

The vast majority [all? ] are only a few paragraphs long, with their most notable characteristic being the bold-faced names of multiple manufacturers/products concatenated in the respective headline, which I guess is aimed at the advertising community.

It is intended to assist in search efforts for those who want to find such reports in the future.

[Kal Rubinson]

3 hours ago, mansr said:

Unless there is intermodulation occurring within our ears. Anything happening outside our ears will obviously be captured by a microphone.

And that was my original point.  

[Kal Rubinson]

2 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Anyone remember MusicGiants?

I still have a baseball cap from them.

[Kal Rubinson]

3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

At least you can still use that. The music isn’t playable anymore. 

Right.  It sits on the shelf next to my HDRadio cap!

[Kal Rubinson]

10 minutes ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

For the record I order without onions....fresh breath is a priority...😍

Fish breath is OK?  I go with all of it.

[Kal Rubinson]

13 hours ago, John_Atkinson said:

 

Yes, Kal Rubinson is both a PhD and an MD

Correction:  I have a Ph.D. (but I taught MDs for many years).   Now, Emeritus.

[Kal Rubinson]

Just now, mansr said:

What is your PhD in? Just curious.

In Anatomy but my research and teaching evolved into Neuroscience.  Current title is Emeritus Professor of Neuroscience and Physiology.   Only tangential relevance to audio/electronics.

[Kal Rubinson]

53 minutes ago, Doug Schneider said:

But it's something I believe that potential buyers should look into. This, to me, is crucial -- but why didn't the magazines that championed MQA report on that? One can only guess..

I did report on this particular issue and, generally, agree with your comments about it.

[Kal Rubinson]

41 minutes ago, crenca said:

So this is not the particular Mytek model that was applying one or more of the filter(s) that were created by MQA for MQA encoded files to standard PCM, unless the end user rebooted (or something - going from memory), which behavior may or may not have been fixed with a firmware upgrade...

I think you are referring to the Mytek Brooklyn.  A reboot is not effective but would be easier.  If you select the MQA option, it invokes the MQA filter.  If you un-select the MQA option, the MQA filter sticks and you must go into the filter setup menu to revert to a non-MQA filter.  With the small buttons, it is a tedious process and frustrates efforts to make back-to-back fair comparisons. 

[Kal Rubinson]

Ehhh.  Things were so quiet for a few days.  🤐

[Kal Rubinson]

1 hour ago, Rt66indierock said:

Well he did figure out how to get to Denver so there is that.

That's not so difficult.  OTOH, flying out of Denver has presented real problems in the past. 😉

[Kal Rubinson]

43 minutes ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

I though his DSD albums were very analog sounding. 

I thought the sound was better than that. 😉

[Kal Rubinson]

1 hour ago, KeenObserver said:

A thought occurred to me.  The closer we get to producing music perfectly, the more there are people that do want us to have it.

Do or don't?

[Kal Rubinson]

This thread reminds me of an old joke from high school:

Two guys on a city bus.

Guy1:  Why do you keep throwing tissues out of the window throughout the ride?
Guy2:  They keep away the elephants.

Guy1:  But there are no elephants................

Guy2:  Effective, isn't it?

🙃

[Kal Rubinson]

6 hours ago, jma2 said:

Could it be that those guys both missed "the elephant in the city bus"?

😉

Thank goodness for the smiley!

[Kal Rubinson]

3 hours ago, R1200CL said:

.....and nothing about this in the press. (Yet) Horrible. 
 

@Kal Rubinson

I hope your magazine looks into this.

Write to the editor.  I don't know if it will do any good but I don't follow the issue any more.

[Kal Rubinson]

6 minutes ago, KeenObserver said:

I can start to understand this fellow when I realize that half the population is below average intelligence.

Actually, half the population is below the median intelligence.  

[Kal Rubinson]

1 hour ago, Jud said:

If you believe there is such a singular quality as "intelligence."

No more than for "musicality." 

[Kal Rubinson]

8 hours ago, Abtr said:

OK, but what if the labels decide to provide only MQA to all streaming services, including Qobuz?

 

31 minutes ago, sandyk said:

Then perhaps it's time to forget streaming and restart listening to some of the huge variety of stuff that many members already have stagnating in local storage as mevdinc suggested! 

Aha!   Go multichannel.  

[Kal Rubinson]

1 hour ago, GUTB said:

To me the difference between MQA and DXD was minor, but the difference between DXD and MQA-CD was pretty significant.

Different in what way and with the advantage on which side?

[Kal Rubinson]

7 minutes ago, KeenObserver said:

Now the majors are saying that was a mistake.  We cannot let you have access to that music.  We know we made billions by selling you "perfect sound forever". But now we need to deny you access to "perfect sound forever".  We need to limit your access to music to MQA.

"Perfect sound for now."  🙉

[Kal Rubinson]

24 minutes ago, JoeWhip said:

Just saw that. Imagine that.

It seems like a side-effect of Mytek separating themselves from their former manufacturing partner in Poland and the subsequent discontinuation of the entire product line produced by them.   It is only significant if Mytek has also deleted MQA from their new and current line of products.  I doubt it.

[Kal Rubinson]

22 minutes ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

Wrong take. It is significant because of the lies told by the Master Quack society...that magical MQA mastering tools were around the corner, and that shiny new MQA encoding ADCs would be in every studio. The fact this product sunk like the titanic with no replacement means the market rejected it soundly.

 

Any recording, mixing, or mastering engineer who touts MQA would be laughed out of the room.

Skew it as you wish.

[Kal Rubinson]

1 hour ago, FredericV said:

There is some music also, but these disks are rare compared to the total number of blu-ray disks:
https://www.naxos.com/blu-ray_audio.asp

There are other sources of 24/96 (or 24/192) BluRayAudio.  2L is a substantial source but there are others.

[Kal Rubinson]

15 hours ago, JoeWhip said:

Not sure you understood my point JA. It is that I can use filters and settings in software like Sox etc. to end up with the same sonic signature on a given mqa file. Hence, we do not need Mqa. 

I suspect so based on my experience with experimental multichannel MQA files and their DXD/DSD equivalents.  https://www.stereophile.com/content/music-round-84-multichannel-mqa-multichannel-mqa-again