mansr Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said: I think they did but if MQA tried to stop them it would be a hard convince a US District Court in Oregon that MQA was actually something new. Auralic has an Oregon office. They could also be sued for breach of whatever contract terms (which I'm certain included "no reverse engineering") they initially agreed to. That's hard to enforce in China, but a US presence can change the picture. Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted August 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said: In Mike Jbra's infomercial at AXPONA I believe he said that the encoders are now out in the wild to mastering engineers. If this were true, it should be pretty simple to get a mastering engineer to encode a test signal. Brian Lucey says he hasn't heard of anything like that. The Computer Audiophile and esldude 2 Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted August 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, AMR/iFi audio said: Folks, MQA over network via Tidal on our Pro iDSD machine. Perhaps one or two of good people here will find it useful Please do not post advertising outside your sponsored section. phosphorein, MikeyFresh and Ran 1 2 Link to comment
AMR/iFi audio Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, mansr said: Please do not post advertising outside your sponsored section. Naah, don't worry, someone might find it useful as we wrote. Worst case scenario, admin will remove it Our PowerStation is here: click me! Check out our Tidal MQA Set-up Guides below. Android (Renderer) MobileDesktop (Decoder) via USBDesktop (Decoder) via SPDIF Link to comment
Rt66indierock Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, AMR/iFi audio said: Naah, don't worry, someone might find it useful as we wrote. Worst case scenario, admin will remove it Convince me anyone cares about Tidal first. then anyone cares about the hifi tier, then try to make an argument that the small number of MQA matters when a big percentage have never been anything but 16/44.1. MikeyFresh 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Samuel T Cogley Posted August 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, AMR/iFi audio said: Naah, don't worry, someone might find it useful as we wrote. Worst case scenario, admin will remove it With all due respect, it's precisely this attitude that stopped me from buying any additional iFi products. I have several of your DACs and a few other items (iGalvanic3.0, etc.). But you went to the MQA dark side, and I purchased a Benchmark DAC3 B instead of the iDSD Pro. Hugo9000, Ran, phosphorein and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted August 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2019 37 minutes ago, AMR/iFi audio said: Folks, MQA over network via Tidal on our Pro iDSD machine. Perhaps one or two of good people here will find it useful Advertising must stay within your sponsored forum. esldude and AMR/iFi audio 1 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
AMR/iFi audio Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 32 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said: With all due respect, it's precisely this attitude that stopped me from buying any additional iFi products. I have several of your DACs and a few other items (iGalvanic3.0, etc.). But you went to the MQA dark side, and I purchased a Benchmark DAC3 B instead of the iDSD Pro. You being happy with your purchase is the most important thing regardless of whether it's our product or not. Thanks for buying our items! But neither we don't see how MQA pushed us to 'the dark side' (nice phrase btw.), nor we think attitude has anything to do with it. MQA is just another way to listen to music, some people like it, some don't and that's fine. But we as a company have always been all about providing people with options. Since MQA is one and we could include it with no drawbacks to anything else, we did Our PowerStation is here: click me! Check out our Tidal MQA Set-up Guides below. Android (Renderer) MobileDesktop (Decoder) via USBDesktop (Decoder) via SPDIF Link to comment
daverich4 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 57 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said: Convince me anyone cares about Tidal first. then anyone cares about the hifi tier, then try to make an argument that the small number of MQA matters when a big percentage have never been anything but 16/44.1. I do. I use the hifi tier of Tidal every day.. Link to comment
Rt66indierock Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, AMR/iFi audio said: You being happy with your purchase is the most important thing regardless of whether it's our product or not. Thanks for buying our items! But neither we don't see how MQA pushed us to 'the dark side' (nice phrase btw.), nor we think attitude has anything to do with it. MQA is just another way to listen to music, some people like it, some don't and that's fine. But we as a company have always been all about providing people with options. Since MQA is one and we could include it with no drawbacks to anything else, we did Where is MQA an option? 7digital is struggling to survive, Napster is doing nothing but hurting the parent Realnetworks, Tidal is only a going concern because of Sprint money. Link to comment
Rt66indierock Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, daverich4 said: I do. I use the hifi tier of Tidal every day.. Enjoy it while you can. Samuel T Cogley 1 Link to comment
AMR/iFi audio Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said: Where is MQA an option? It always is an option to simply not listen to it if you don't like it. But if you really want to be MQA-immune, we provide firmware with it disabled. Our PowerStation is here: click me! Check out our Tidal MQA Set-up Guides below. Android (Renderer) MobileDesktop (Decoder) via USBDesktop (Decoder) via SPDIF Link to comment
daverich4 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said: Enjoy it while you can. Thanks, I will. Link to comment
Samuel T Cogley Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, AMR/iFi audio said: It always is an option to simply not listen to it if you don't like it. But if you really want to be MQA-immune, we provide firmware with it disabled. For the iDSD Pro? 🙂 Link to comment
AMR/iFi audio Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said: For the iDSD Pro? 🙂 Yes. Our first Pro iDSD FW was without MQA and upon request we provide it. Our PowerStation is here: click me! Check out our Tidal MQA Set-up Guides below. Android (Renderer) MobileDesktop (Decoder) via USBDesktop (Decoder) via SPDIF Link to comment
Popular Post crenca Posted August 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2019 51 minutes ago, AMR/iFi audio said: You being happy with your purchase is the most important thing regardless of whether it's our product or not.... Ah shucks man, thanks! I want everyone who reads this thread to understand that you're happiness is my number one concern... It's why I get out of bed every morning thinking about toilet paper.... are you happy with your toilet paper? I hope so as it's my number one concern.... 😋 51 minutes ago, AMR/iFi audio said: MQA is just another way to listen to music, some people like it, some don't and that's fine. Have you heard of this little controversy around MQA? There's a thread over at Audiophilestyle entitled "MQA is a Vaporware" you should check out. Apparently MQA is not just another audio product or choice! Who would have thunk it.... 😉 AMR/iFi audio and Currawong 2 Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
jabbr Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 54 minutes ago, AMR/iFi audio said: You being happy with your purchase is the most important thing regardless of whether it's our product or not. Thanks for buying our items! But neither we don't see how MQA pushed us to 'the dark side' (nice phrase btw.), nor we think attitude has anything to do with it. I am not happy that your MQA firmware “upgrade” removes the capability to do DSD512 — that was IMHO a brain dead decision. Not happy customer. MikeyFresh 1 Custom room treatments for headphone users. Link to comment
AMR/iFi audio Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, jabbr said: that was IMHO a brain dead decision. This is not factually correct, sorry. We explained rather clearly why this happened and XMOS math cap reached was the valid reason. And yet again, we provided FW options; for those who wanted MQA and for those after DSD512. So that's that. 5 minutes ago, jabbr said: Not happy customer. Hey, we can't please everyone, but we still try though Our PowerStation is here: click me! Check out our Tidal MQA Set-up Guides below. Android (Renderer) MobileDesktop (Decoder) via USBDesktop (Decoder) via SPDIF Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted August 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, AMR/iFi audio said: This is not factually correct, sorry. We explained rather clearly why this happened and XMOS math cap reached was the valid reason. Have you oh-so-clever people never heard of an if statement? MikeyFresh and jabbr 1 1 Link to comment
FredericV Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I was watching a docu and then this came up, and thinking about the MQA cassette jokes in this thread: I first believed "Studio Master Cassette" was just some title they added to some random cassette, but if you google it, there's a youtube demo, which does not sound so bad at all: Designer of the 432 EVO music server and Linux specialist Discoverer of the independent open source sox based mqa playback method with optional one cycle postringing. Link to comment
FredericV Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 4 hours ago, mansr said: Did they really manage to recreate a full decoder? If they did, it's odd that MQA didn't get import bans imposed on their products due to patent violations. That used to happen a lot with unlicensed MP3 players from China. They use sox, which I have on record. MikeyFresh 1 Designer of the 432 EVO music server and Linux specialist Discoverer of the independent open source sox based mqa playback method with optional one cycle postringing. Link to comment
Popular Post jabbr Posted August 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, AMR/iFi audio said: This is not factually correct, sorry. We explained rather clearly why this happened and XMOS math cap reached was the valid reason. And yet again, we provided FW options; for those who wanted MQA and for those after DSD512. So that's that. Factually correct that your brain dead decision to adopt MQA resulted in your decision to drop DSD512 —- which firmware is loaded default? MikeyFresh and Ralf11 1 1 Custom room treatments for headphone users. Link to comment
mansr Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, FredericV said: They use sox, which I have on record. So not an MQA decoder. MikeyFresh 1 Link to comment
FredericV Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, mansr said: So not an MQA decoder. Auralic seems to have written their own lightning player which relies on sox (as analyzed by myself while intercepting a firmware file during download when I launched an update of my Auralic device, and later confirmed to me by their CEO that they use the sox library), while they also had a dormant version of MPD in an old version which they later removed. More evil is adding a closed source MQA decoder to open source software by means of a bidirectional pipe sharing intimate data structures between both. According to the GPL FAQ such (ab)use of a pipe is problematic. The now gone MPD mailing list had some fine examples of these violators ... at least I feel a little bit more enlightened after seeing those source as posted on the mpd-devel list. MikeyFresh 1 Designer of the 432 EVO music server and Linux specialist Discoverer of the independent open source sox based mqa playback method with optional one cycle postringing. Link to comment
Popular Post Ishmael Slapowitz Posted August 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, AMR/iFi audio said: Yes. Our first Pro iDSD FW was without MQA and upon request we provide it. I would love to know what you top engineer Thorsten thanks of MQA. He was quite active on many forums, but unless I am mistaken he went dark, non pun intended, after you adopted MQA. 🤐 P.S. for virtually all of his posting time, he was strong in his opinion that anything beyond Redbook was a waste of time. EDIT: NEVER MIND. I see on Audio Asylum he drank the Kool Aid. Refused to believe it was lossy and cited the Stereophile articles as factual and definitive. Funny, for a guy who made fun of DSD for quite a long time. Hugo9000, MikeyFresh, Rt66indierock and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
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