LUMIN - Audiophile Network Music Player

[wklie]

On 5/15/2020 at 1:48 AM, Kray said:

Is there any way to prevent the Settings/Music Library window from popping open every time I go back into the Lumin app after X minutes?

 

Please update Lumin app to 6.1.16 from iOS app store and see if it works better for you.

[Kray]

11 hours ago, wklie said:

 

Please update Lumin app to 6.1.16 from iOS app store and see if it works better for you.

thanks will give it a try and report back

[smodtactical]

Hey guys I am just curious if anyone has put a good quality DDC after a lumin streamer to further SQ gains?

 

This was done with other high end streamers on other forums and wonder if anyone has experience doing this with lumin products.

 

I ordered an audio gd di20HE and am thinking of getting a lumin u1 mini -> coax out -> di 20HE -> i2s -> dac.

[wklie]

@smodtactical If you have asked me for compatibility first, I'd tell you not to buy an Amanero based DDC.  Stick to XMOS.  Another thing is you have to make sure the DDC I2S output is proven DSD compatible with your particular DAC.

 

There have been a variety of I2S DSD differences, so it can create all sorts of problems.  Even if it plays, some will have left right channel swapped.  Therefore some DDC has several configurable outputs and even different firmwares to match different brands of DAC.

 

I remember there was an unhappy incident in this forum between a DDC user and a DAC manufacturer.  The manufacturer followed an alternative I2S standard, and there were other hardware incompatibilities between the two requiring a paid hardware mod.  Eventually the manufacturer declared if you use a third party DDC you're on your own.  My point is: you have to make sure everything is compatible before you buy a I2S DDC.

[smodtactical]

Peter very good point. Have you come across any users successfully using DDC with lumin streamers?

[erniejade]

You also need to consider if mqa is important to you.   If you are using Tidal and not Qobuz, you will want a mqa dac.  

[The Computer Audiophile]

8 minutes ago, erniejade said:

If you are using Tidal and not Qobuz, you will want a mqa dac.  

Surely you jest. 

[One and a half]

2 hours ago, smodtactical said:

Peter very good point. Have you come across any users successfully using DDC with lumin streamers?

If i2S is out of the equation,  Lumin offers AES3, coax and optical outputs as standard, these are pretty good on their own.

After using AES3 for 12 months or more,  USB provides a better, resolving outcome. This may not have to be due to the hardware in the Lumin, but with various SRC at the source,  especially with DSD.

[smodtactical]

Originally I figured I'd just do u1 mini into my dac via AES. But I've now encountered people using DDC like the one I mentioned before even out of high end streamers like lumins gears (and other companies) and got great SQ boosts. I was really surprised.

[randyhat]

5 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Surely you jest. 

I don't think he was jesting at all.  The complete statement suggested he consider if MQA was important to him and that if it was then he would need a MQA DAC.  Surely he was not jesting....that is a truthful straightforward suggestion.  I realize this is your site AND there is a dogmatic anti-MQA culture throughout but that seemed a little unnecessary.  

[The Computer Audiophile]

2 minutes ago, randyhat said:

I don't think he was jesting at all.  The complete statement suggested he consider if MQA was important to him and that if it was then he would need a MQA DAC.  Surely he was not jesting....that is a truthful straightforward suggestion.  I realize this is your site AND there is a dogmatic anti-MQA culture throughout but that seemed a little unnecessary.  

This thread goes back years and we’ve seen many people post comments like that, despite the heaps of information proving MQA is a scam. The comments stem from straight up trolls to people who’ve never read a single post giving an honest opinion. It’s really hard to gauge comments in an anti-MQA thread, when they support the scam with statements like his/hers. 

I’m not sure dogmatic is how I’d describe the educated opinions about MQA here at AS. Many have looked at the evidence and came to their own conclusions. I’m not sure if you saw how the MQA people treated me during my presentation, which I invited them to, but I don’t believe it’s how a company with nothing to hide acts and it definitely isn’t how companies I do business with act. I just can’t support companies who treat people like crap, lie through their teeth straight to their faces, and desire to change the way all of us listen to music. 

 

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

Mea culpa. I mixed up the link and thread and thought this was posted in the MQA Vaporware. Sorry guys. 

[Kray]

@wklie great news! Latest update works as requested. No more constant popping open of the Music Library window. Thanks 

[erniejade]

I am not a fan of MAQ.  That's why i use Qobuz for a streaming service but, I do have friends who like MQA or specifically mqa using Tidal so they wouldn't consider a dac without MQA.  I was only thinking  of the OP possible needs or wants since the Lumin is MQA capable.   

[The Computer Audiophile]

8 minutes ago, erniejade said:

I am not a fan of MAQ.  That's why i use Qobuz for a streaming service but, I do have friends who like MQA or specifically mqa using Tidal so they wouldn't consider a dac without MQA.  I was only thinking  of the OP possible needs or wants since the Lumin is MQA capable.   

Yes. Sorry for dragging this off topic. 

[wklie]

8 hours ago, smodtactical said:

Peter very good point. Have you come across any users successfully using DDC with lumin streamers?

 

Yes, the U1 user was using an older DDC model that initially had a DSD left/right channel swapped problem, which would be fixed by a different DDC firmware - this was several years ago. A successor model had dip switches to configure different modes of I2S output to match different brands.  Pretty impressive functionality.

[wklie]

Chris, personally I'm sorry about the mistreatment you received.

[smodtactical]

Ok well I ordered u1 mini in black from my local dealer. Going to do U1 mini (powered by Keces p8) -> DI20HE -> Terminator v2. Will try all combos though (like terminator alone, di20he alone). Hopefully it synergies well and if so will be my streaming front end end game.

[FIndingit]

13 hours ago, Kray said:

@wklie great news! Latest update works as requested. No more constant popping open of the Music Library window. Thanks 

Really? I have 6.1.16 and nothing has changed, still popping the window. iPhone as well as iPad. 

[FIndingit]

I see. If there is a server available, it will open the “Select a Music Library” window OR show the previously chosen server contents, even if it is offline. If there are no servers AND no server has been selected on previous visits, it will not pop up or revert to library. That’s new.
 

Now we just need the “always stay on last chosen music source”. Please.

[Ropet]

@wklie I am very happy with my Lumin U1 Mini. So far I have only played music from my ripped and my downloaded files. At this time I wanted to try Quboz as they have downloading offers that suit my taste.

 

I opened Quboz from the Lumin app and got an offer for 1 month trial. So I filled up what I was asked for but then it was stop. I got a message that Quboz is not availble for Sweden and as far as I understand, not for Norway, Finland or Denmark as well.

 

Have you not signed up for Quboz to all your Lumin customers? Quboz is one of your sales argument to buy Lumin but it seems that 25 million people in the Nordic countries are left aside. Or is there a ”secret way” to get access. I must say that I feel a bit discriminated.

 

What info do you have on this subject?

[pl_svn]

13 minutes ago, Ropet said:

Or is there a ”secret way” to get access

 

not Lumin's fault: it's about labels & stuff

 

sign up, using a VPN, from a country served by Qobuz. only needed to sign up

I've been streaming Qobuz years before it became available here

[wklie]

In addition:

 

The VPN country determines which region your account belongs to and therefore the size of the music library and the subscription cost.  In the past it was said that Qobuz France had the largest library, but I'm not sure if this is still true.

 

For Qobuz non-supported country, you must use e-mail to sign up, not Facebook.  You must use PayPal instead of credit card for payment - but even then they may decline your payment.  You could try different credit cards.  Further info:

https://community.roonlabs.com/t/qobuz-in-non-supported-countries/58697/39

 

Once signed up, VPN is not needed.

[Ropet]

Thanks @wklie  and @pl_svn It seems to follow the typical pattern of our time, lying, cheating, fixing and tripping to move forward and no-one seems to bother.

[pl_svn]

1 hour ago, Ropet said:

It seems to follow the typical pattern of our time, lying, cheating, fixing and tripping to move forward and no-one seems to bother

if you rather want to convince labels that what they are doing is complete nonsense in the digital/global era... we will all thank you

(... if/when you succeed 😛 )