Drugs

[elcorso]

Bill,

 

I found over here an MD who is specialized in acupuncture (including electrical acupuncture), from American College of Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine (ACAOM), Houston, Texas.

 

Since I can't take any pain reliever like NSAIDs, because my blood pressure goes to stratospherics limits, this MD help me a lot. First 4 weeks two sessions/week, then 1 and now I visit him each 15 days. Acetominophen is the only allowed, but the relief last only 1 to 2 hours. I have artrosis (osteoarthritis) in both hands thanks to my life as a farmer.

 

There is no pain when the electrical acupuncture is applied and after the 1 hour session you feel like Dr. House after his famous pills.

 

Roch

[Harpy]

Let me see, marijuana, Vicodin, Valium. In the past LSD, heroin, Mushrooms, Cocaine, Crack, and Ecstasy. Don't drink.

[wakibaki]

I voted 'evil weed' but then I guess you knew that anyway.

 

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[wgscott]

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[esldude]

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You do realize those mushrooms will make you lose track of time?

[r_w]

Where is the option "I listen to music late at night with copious amounts of alcohol"???

 

Surely that is 'best practice'.

 

;-)

 

(edit, there goes my dyslexia, just noticed, option 2 kinda fits)

[Allan F]

"On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer on the ground that my answer may tend to incriminate me."

[BobSherman]

We have a bottle of Ardbeg in the house, but it is kind of hard to drink (which is fine by me, since the Irish wife considers most (ethyl) alcohol to be a viable alternative to water).

 

[BobSherman]

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You left out crack? Are you discriminating against the audiophile on a budget?

[BobSherman]

No. I'm a chemist (not that kind either).

Sure...

 

 

 

[BobSherman]

Actually, some of what I do is related to structure-based drug design. (We determine the three-dimensional atomic structures of macromolecules. Other people design drugs based on our results. What I do currently is fairly medically irrelevant. Sorry.)

 

Chronic pain seems to be an area that could really benefit from new and different drugs. What we need is something with the efficacy of opiates without the addictive properties.

Methadone can be very effective and is dirt cheap but carries a stigma.

[BobSherman]

I think I am addicted to coffee. I never drank coffee until after age 35, so you would think I would have been mature enough to handle it. But if I try to skip a fix I mean a cup, I get a cracking headache.

 

This only serves to increase my fear of other drugs. All drugs scare me. I just weaned my puppy off of anti-seizure meds. The improvement in her disposition is remarkable, and, fortunately, no seizures.

It is amazing how something as innocent as caffeine can really mess with someone. Have been off it for years and feel much better.

 

I was seriously scared of drugs also as a kid by two incidents I witnessed, and I'm really better for I guess. While growing up everyone around me did drugs, I stayed away.

 

When I was young glue was still sniff-able and I was about nine and saw these two really pretty high school girls hiding under a stairwell in my building sniffing glue. They were so messed up they hardly even stand.

 

A second incident was this guy stumbling out of the pizza store (which I found out when I was older was a heroin spot) falling and hitting his head on the metal cellar doors in front of the store. He was bleeding so profusely that it flowed from store all the way to the curb and into the street. As a little kid I realized drugs were something to stay away from.

[rwwjr44]

A wee dab of single malt twice a week while listening to music.

[bluesman]

While growing up everyone around me did drugs, I stayed away.

I had a similar approach but for a totally different reason. I wanted to be a doctor, and a felony conviction would have kept me from ever getting a medical license. I went to college in 1964 in Boston, and there was apparently enough pot smoking on our campus to attract undercover narcs and other such attention - there were many "busts" on campus (no, not anatomic parts!). It was a major effort to stay away from the heads, but I did manage to avoid both drugs and arrest (which cannot be said for some of my friends).

 

Music was, in fact, my main substitute....and it's gotten me through 7 decades without demonstrable ill effect, so I can't complain. Still and all, I probably spent as much on equipment, instruments, sources etc as my friends did on their drugs.

 

To each his own.

[wgscott]

I had a similar approach but for a totally different reason. I wanted to be a doctor, and a felony conviction would have kept me from ever getting a medical license. I went to college in 1964 in Boston, and there was apparently enough pot smoking on our campus to attract undercover narcs and other such attention - there were many "busts" on campus (no, not anatomic parts!). It was a major effort to stay away from the heads, but I did manage to avoid both drugs and arrest (which cannot be said for some of my friends).

 

Music was, in fact, my main substitute....and it's gotten me through 7 decades without demonstrable ill effect, so I can't complain. Still and all, I probably spent as much on equipment, instruments, sources etc as my friends did on their drugs.

 

To each his own.

 

After getting accepted, but before starting med school, I rented an apartment with a friend from high school. Only after did I discover his "grow" in a closet. I took a libertarian/denial approach until one day the landlord was at the door with some other guy, who he introduced as a county inspector, and then he said they wanted to take a look at our pot plants.

 

I decided to break the lease and forfeit my security deposit shortly thereafter.

[esldude]

After getting accepted, but before starting med school, I rented an apartment with a friend from high school. Only after did I discover his "grow" in a closet. I took a libertarian/denial approach until one day the landlord was at the door with some other guy, who he introduced as a county inspector, and then he said they wanted to take a look at our pot plants.

 

I decided to break the lease and forfeit my security deposit shortly thereafter.

 

I saw some pot head college friends nearly burn down an apartment complex once. I vividly remember them accidentally starting a substantial fire. I ran out, but stopped and watched as the tenant pot head (and good friend, he was a good guy generally), calmly, much too calmly, walk over the elevated breezeway and ask after knocking on the door, "excuse me, do you have a fire extinguisher we could borrow?" The other tenant reacted with a bit of alarm, well more than a bit. Seeing as how over my friend's shoulder she was seeing dark black smoke billowing out the open door of the apartment. No doubt fearing the whole unit was going down in flames.

 

All ended well however. I and another guy managed to get it under-control and out after that. Just about when the fire dept showed up with big trucks and sirens blaring. Us "volunteered firefighters", skidaddled (excuse the technical terms here) on out of there. I do believe my pot head friend lost his security deposit too.

 

Then there is the time the same guy had issues with a rental dark room. Something about smoking pot while developing film that would violate the pornography laws of the state we were in. Yeah, I was the film tech innocently doing the developing not knowing what was on the film or that the cops had been called when the odor of pot was detected. The last time I let that fellow get me in hot water.

 

Still that ended well too. Dude went on to be an elected state representative from his home state. Good ole conservative republican too. Not there anymore.

[wgscott]

The yellow circle encloses the burn area from a forest fire in my neighborhood, started by pot-heads a year or so before I moved here:

 

[esldude]

The yellow circle encloses the burn area from a forest fire in my neighborhood, started by pot-heads a year or so before I moved here:

 

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See had I been there, shovel and dirt baby on that burning building.......

 

Well if I were 20 years old and still stupid and naive compared to now. Besides pot never hurt anybody..............

[Snowmonkey]

Says it all:

 

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[Allan F]

Says it all:

 

 

Suffers in comparison to the book of the same name by Jack S. Margolis and Richard Clorfene, published circa 1969. Not even a reference to the infamous Ernie Lundquist.

[gmgraves]

Unlike many here, I was too young to participate in the hippy generation. However, what followed seemed like a main-stream co-optation of the recreational drug culture by the music industry. Music from groups like Pink Floyd and the Grateful Dead seemed almost designed for recreational hallucinogenic drug users.

 

It occurred to me recently that audiophiles who care enough about sound to worry one way or another about what their cables and electronics sound like in micro-detail might have pretty strong opinions, either negative or positive, about mixing music and drugs.

 

I also recognize the reason this is not discussed on a public forum.

 

So I thought an anonymous poll might be amusing...

 

 

I find a dram of Woodford Reserve or Pappy Van Winkle's on the rocks later in the evening makes everything sound better. Early evening calls for a Bloody Mary or a gin Martini (made with Bombay Sapphire) or perhaps even a good lager like a real Bavarian LowenBrau, HB, or even an American Michelob Lager (definitely NOT a Michelob Ultra, though which tastes like a real Michelob cut 50/50 with seltzer water - Yecccchhh!). All of the above in moderation, of course!

[Tony Lauck]

Oh no, you left out the best choice on the poll:

 

I only use drugs under the direction of an audiophile Shaman. The traditional knowledge allows perception beyond the physical realm into the spirit realm beyond.

 

No need for drugs. Just the proper guru and your personal mantra.

[Rainer]

Heh. haven't read through the thread yet, but didn't Bill Hicks have something to say about how a lot of the music many of us love came into being - you know, through, er, induced altered states?

 

Alcohol; for me there's a sweet spot before my senses get too addled - maybe two glasses of wine / two bottles of Budvar.

 

The Evil Weed? No comment .......

[DreamOperator]

mushrooms + maggies = woah!

[mourip]

On Being Stoned - Chapter 7 Take a look at this. Includes a graph for determining how stoned you are. Written by Charles Tart PhD.

 

Wow. I have not heard that name in a while. I took Psych 101 from Charles Tart at the University of California at Davis in 1967.