Building a DIY Music Server

[lsantista]

all hifi commercial servers I know of are fanless, as are most builds here. you few guys using fans, what's the main reason for it?

 

reason I ask is I recently tested a server and really liked the result, but in the end of testing realized it was a fan desing (I should have guessed since it uses a 13900k, but it was really a quiet fan). The builder uses this as he is a big HQP supporter, and so do I. But honestly without a big GPU I have seen only small improvents between a 13900 and much less power hungry processors - but ye this is another discussion, I genuinely just want to hear more opinions from you guys using fans who have compared to similar fanless builds regarding sound quality of course , budget is less relevant in this regard.

 

[seeteeyou]

1 hour ago, lsantista said:

budget is less relevant in this regard.

 

If budget were no object, IMHO something like this (with a whopping 350W TDP no less) could be mighty interesting

 

https://www.dihuni.com/product/intel-xeon-cpu-max-9462-processor-75m-cache-2-70-ghz-fc-lga16a-tray/

https://www.tech-america.com/item/intel-cpu-pk8071305223900-xeon-max-9462-32c-2-7ghz-75m-fc-lga16a-sockete-tray/pk8071305223900

 

Previously @sligolad modified a motherboard himself so that all RAM slots could be powered externally

 

https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/fs-ultra-low-noise-power-supply-lt3045-based-pcbs.310402/page-3#post-5353416

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Recently replaced an old Audiowind linear regulator for DC 1.3 volts direct to RAM on my audio PC with 2x of the 6 LT3045 Reg boards and had a really big improvement in sound quality.

 

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It really has lifted my digital playback system to new heights in enjoyment of music.

 

 

 

Now we've got Xeon CPU Max Series from Intel with 64GB of HBM2e inside the CPU itself

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14110/samsung-introduces-hbm2e-flashbolt-memory-16-gb-32-gbps

https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-to-advance-high-performance-computing-systems-with-launch-of-industrys-first-3rd-generation-16gb-hbm2e

 

 

In other words, a music server could be booted right up with completely empty DIMM slots

 

https://www.servethehome.com/intel-xeon-max-9480-deep-dive-intel-has-64gb-hbm2e-onboard-like-a-gpu-or-ai-accelerator/

 

Obviously we're powering both the CPU and its HBM2e simultaneously via a pair of 8-pin connectors, while a couple of ATX form factor motherboards seemed to be available as well

 

https://www.provantage.com/gigabyte-technology-ms03-ce0~7GIGB1C9.htm

https://www.provantage.com/gigabyte-technology-ms03-6l0~7GIGB1CU.htm

https://www.gigabyte.com/Enterprise/Server-Motherboard/MS03-CE0-rev-1x#Specifications

https://www.gigabyte.com/Enterprise/Server-Motherboard/MS03-6L0-rev-1x#Specifications

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2 x 8-pin ATX 12V power connectors

 

That means we might still get a chance to go fanless (at least in the fall and winter?) thanks to the form factor of either motherboard mentioned above

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/18887/streacoms-sg10-case-can-cool-down-geforce-rtx-4080-without-fans

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The SG10 chassis has two cooling loops with two separate condensers — one for the CPU that's rated for up to 250W TDP (enough for Intel's Core i9-13900K), and another for the GPU rated for an up to 350W TDP (enough for NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4080). The cooling loops for both the CPU and GPU are identical in all aspects, except for the way they are attached to the respective processors.

So here's what we're getting for $999

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/309486/streacom-and-calyos-demonstrate-the-fanless-sg10-chassis

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Streacom had a demo at their booth with the SG10 cooling a Core i9-13900K and GeForce RTX 4080 under a FurMark load with a total system power draw of around 680 W. While the RTX 4080 was sitting at a quite comfortable 75° C, the i9-13900K was stuck right up against its thermal limit of 100° C. Streacom claims the CPU and GPU loops of the cooler utilize identical designs with the only difference being the mounting bracket, however due to the GPU block being mounted directly to the GPU die the cooling is rated at 350 W rather than 250 W. They claim if the CPU loop is mounted direct-die it would perform similarly to the GPU loop, and it's possible to add 120 mm fans along the top, below the condensers, to further improve cooling.

 

Granted we wouldn't even dream about a dual-processor config here, though having access to SNC4 Clustering / Hemisphere and Quadrant Modes wouldn't be such a bad idea

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/fourth-generation-xeon-scalable-family-overview.html

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To decrease the latency of data movements across the die sub-NUMA clusters (SNC) were introduced. In a two cluster SNC (SNC-2), two localization domains exist within a processor. Each domain has mapped addresses from the local memory controller and local Last Level Cache (LLC) slices. Processors in the local domain will use the local memory controller and local LLC slices. Processors in the local domain will observe lower LLC and memory latency compared to latency on accesses mapped to locations outside of the same SNC domain.

 

https://lenovopress.lenovo.com/lp1738-implementing-intel-high-bandwidth-memory

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To further achieve higher memory bandwidth and lower memory latency for NUMA-optimized applications, the SNC4 Clustering divides 64 GB HBM memory into four independent NUMA nodes. This section describes SNC4 clustering using the three different memory modes.

 

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/76127861/whats-the-difference-between-sub-numa-clustering-and-hemisphere-and-quadrant/76133317#76133317

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However, when the CHAs receives a request (and it must be served from memory) it will direct it to its closest iMC. This reduces the latency compared to UMA mode, on average.

[Rovo]

4 hours ago, lsantista said:

all hifi commercial servers I know of are fanless, as are most builds here. you few guys using fans, what's the main reason for it?

 

reason I ask is I recently tested a server and really liked the result, but in the end of testing realized it was a fan desing (I should have guessed since it uses a 13900k, but it was really a quiet fan). The builder uses this as he is a big HQP supporter, and so do I. But honestly without a big GPU I have seen only small improvents between a 13900 and much less power hungry processors - but ye this is another discussion, I genuinely just want to hear more opinions from you guys using fans who have compared to similar fanless builds regarding sound quality of course , budget is less relevant in this regard.

 

there are two points of importance with respect to fans in our high end builds: 

- electrical power

- vibrations

 

Electrical power: the power supply to the fans will influence the power to the hi-fi components. Fans connected directly to the motherboard the most. 

Vibrations: even small mechanical vibrations will have an influence on the hi-fi components (microphonics). 

 

For the reasons mentioned above you try to avoid or if not possible to completely avoid (cost compromise), to minimize the effect of fans. And yes it all has an effect and you will have to decide on the trade offs. 

[Gavin1977]

@seeteeyou  nice post on the Xeon CPU Max Series from Intel with 64GB of HBM2e inside the CPU itself - onboard memory could be great for us audiophiles.  I wonder if it'll trickle down to lower TDP processors, or K series.

[MarcelNL]

I'm not holdin g my breath for that, at least not until many years from now....by then we're listening to quantum computers though...

[seeteeyou]

9 hours ago, Gavin1977 said:

I wonder if it'll trickle down to lower TDP processors, or K series.

 

Very doubtful since HBM should be meant for the AI and HPC platform, and then we'll also need a (much?) larger socket plus those winglets in order to accommodate the memory

 

https://community.intel.com/t5/Blogs/Products-and-Solutions/HPC/Enabling-High-Bandwidth-Memory-for-HPC-and-AI-Applications-for/post/1335100

https://community.intel.com/t5/Blogs/Products-and-Solutions/HPC/High-Bandwidth-Memory-Can-Make-CPUs-the-Desired-Platform-for-AI/post/1434192

 

Not to mention why the prices aren't really coming down these days

 

Samsung & SK Hynix GPU DRAM Prices Shoot Up: HBM3 5x More Expensive As Demand Grows For NVIDIA GPUs In ChatGPT
https://wccftech.com/samsung-sk-hynix-gpu-dram-prices-shoot-up-hbm3-5x-more-expensive-as-demand-grows-for-nvidia-gpus-in-chatgpt/

 

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At least for SSDs, both power and clock seemed to trump latency

 

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/62753-nvme-ssd-designed-for-audiophiles/page/10/#comment-1248551  

On 7/17/2023 at 4:28 AM, MarcelNL said:

I do not see what version it was, pSLC or TLC, and an Sbooster is IMO not a worthwile upgrade for external power...this thing starts to sing with a great PSU, but even so on internal power it outperformed Optane and all NVME I had in stock easily when used as file storage disc but even more clearly when used as OS disc.

 

I've been reading these threads started by someone called asdkj1740

 

https://www.overclock.net/threads/z790-vrm-discussion-thread.1801620/

https://www.overclock.net/threads/z790-intel-component-spreadsheet.1803160/

https://www.overclock.net/threads/2520a-madness-z690-vrm-discussion-thread-27-10-21.1794798/

 

In terms of the VRM phases, some motherboards seemed to be extremely powerful according to those spreadsheets linked above

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-Z790-GODLIKE

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-Z790-GODLIKE-MAX

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Z790 |VCORE MOSFET| = 2730A (Winner is MSI)

 

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-maximus/rog-maximus-z690-apex-model/

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-maximus/rog-maximus-z690-extreme-model/

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-maximus/rog-maximus-z690-extreme-glacial-model/

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Z690 |VCORE MOSFET| = 2520A (Winner is ASUS)

 

Intel Core 12th to 14th Gen are sharing the same LGA 1700 socket, while the 15th Gen (and beyond) with a new LGA 1851 socket should be expected to arrive in mid-2024

 

https://wccftech.com/intel-confirms-meteor-lake-cpus-are-coming-to-desktop-pcs-in-2024/

 

At some point we'll find much cheaper MEG Z790 GODLIKE on the market when those gamers are ready for an upgrade, then it would be interesting to figure out if what @romaz posted back in 2019 were still true today

 

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/55873-shootout-at-the-linux-corral-audiolinux-vs-euphony/page/9/#comment-961583

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Asrock Z390 Extreme4 = 250A for the CPU (i.e. 10 × 25A)

Asrock Z390 Phantom Gaming ITX/ac = 300A for the CPU (i.e. 5 × 60A)

 

Recently I learned that someone was trying quite a few "average" Z690 motherboards and most likely they wouldn't have any kinda powerful VRMs for obvious reasons. Somehow he decided to give this Z590 motherboard a shot because it's getting pretty darn cheap

 

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-maximus/rog-maximus-xiii-apex-model/

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Robust Power Solution: 18 teamed power stages rated for 90 amps

 

It's "only" 1620A but he's already happy about the results, finally he ended up getting two of them since it's very much a bargain.

 

And then IMHO it's also worth reading this

 

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/68423-my-recent-experience-with-the-new-amd-7000-series-processors-and-related-motherboards/page/2/#comment-1252239

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• Intel builds boot with the Taiko/ULPS pair and sound better than any other power solution tested on Intel servers.
• AMD Ryzen 7000 builds will boot with an 800 watt Hdplex DC-ATX/ULPS and beats the SQ of the Intel servers with the Taiko/ULPS.

 

VRMs for many Intel X299 motherboards didn't seem to be all that powerful at all, maybe that's the weakest link then?

 

https://forum.level1techs.com/t/x299-motherboard-vrm-topic/130235

 

[MarcelNL]

9 hours ago, seeteeyou said:

At least for SSDs, both power and clock seemed to trump latency

 

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/62753-nvme-ssd-designed-for-audiophiles/page/10/#comment-1248551  

On 7/16/2023 at 10:28 PM, MarcelNL said:

I do not see what version it was, pSLC or TLC, and an Sbooster is IMO not a worthwile upgrade for external power...this thing starts to sing with a great PSU, but even so on internal power it outperformed Optane and all NVME I had in stock easily when used as file storage disc but even more clearly when used as OS disc.

 It may well all be important, the difference between the 970evo pro Samsung SSD and the newer 990 is mainly in latency since both draw power from the main bord, still the 990 sounds better.

 

The difference between (p) SLC and TLC could IMHO be the number of electrical connections, each junction will incur resistance which means noise. SLC likely has less connections than 3D TLC has.

[ciccio1112]

Good morning. Have any of you tried to update the firmware of the ASM 3142 USB controller of the Asus Sage C621 motherboard?

[MarcelNL]

5 minutes ago, ciccio1112 said:

Good morning. Have any of you tried to update the firmware of the ASM 3142 USB controller of the Asus Sage C621 motherboard?

update from what to what?

 

the support page does not show a whole lot, besides, do you use the MB USB for audio? (I typically switch off USB in BIOS, but haven't gotten around to build the Sage server, but I finally received the last parts I need)

 

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/workstation/ws-c621e-sage/helpdesk_bios/?model2Name=WS-C621E-SAGE

[ciccio1112]

The motherboard features the ASMedia 3142 3.1 USB controller, which is the same as the one installed on the JCAT XE. Since a new firmware has recently been released for the JCAT XE, the question arises whether it’s possible to install the firmware on our Asus Sage, which surely has outdated firmware, dating back to when the motherboard was first introduced.

[ciccio1112]

The USB that Taiko Audio initially used before the release of their USB card, in my opinion, is excellent.
While waiting for Emile to decide to market their USB card for DIY enthusiasts like us.

[MarcelNL]

1 minute ago, ciccio1112 said:

The USB that Taiko Audio initially used before the release of their USB card, in my opinion, is excellent.
While waiting for Emile to decide to market their USB card for DIY enthusiasts like us.

that card is not just any USB card, TACDA will have a USB output option...I keep my eyes peeled for it too in the I2S output format but dread it's sticker price.

 

I suspect updating the firmware of the USB chip on the MB is not the same as using it on a properly designed and externally powered USB card with dedicated clock....

 

 

[seeteeyou]

Well, it's always a good idea to check the block diagram (page 119 of the manual) of WS C621E SAGE

 

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/Socket3647/WS_C621E_SAGE/Manual/E15371_WS_C621E_SAGE_UM_V6_WEB.pdf#page=119

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/58164-building-a-diy-music-server/page/52/#comment-1097181

On 12/19/2020 at 2:14 AM, ray-dude said:

 

All CPU-Direct PCIe lanes should be occupied by either U.2 ports of PCIe slots.

 

As a result, we've got nothing left for the ASM3142 controller and that's why it's actually connected to the C621 chipset instead.

 

IMHO the whole point of having that dual-processor config should be all about achieving something like this

 

https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/reviews/reality-quest-going-to-extremes-with-the-taiko-audio-sgm-extreme-part-2-of-5-r908/  

On 5/19/2020 at 12:56 PM, ray-dude said:

This is another tuning opportunity to have I/O cards more directly linked to the CPUs where dependent processes are running. In the case of the Extreme, CPU 1 has direct affinity to all music I/O (network, USB, storage), with CPU 2 delegated to OS I/O. By delegating system and music processes to cores on the appropriate CPU, Emile is able to achieve an optimal balance for sound quality.

 

In other words, the only way to go would be getting an add-on PCIe card so that could be connected to CPU 1 directly.

 

It doesn't cost too much at all, therefore we could always update its firmware without having to worry about the motherboard

 

https://www.startech.com/en-eu/cards-adapters/pexusb312c3

https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-PCIe-USB-3-1-Card/dp/B087G7T234

 

FYI - someone did manage to fry the USB ports on the motherboard after the firmware update went south

 

https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/zenith-extreme-x399-e/updating-usb-3-1-asm314-breaks-usb-3-1/td-p/851000

 

As I mentioned before, USB4 cables tended to perform very well even if the peripherals were supporting a lower speed

 

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/58164-building-a-diy-music-server/page/224/#comment-1251627

 

If the length (1.2M) were no big deal, we could simply add an adapter like this

 

https://www.amazon.com/Printer-Adapter-Convert-Connector-Compatible/dp/B092C5DNSF

 

(Of course we might also wait until better products are available from Taiko Audio instead.)

[flkin]

22 hours ago, MarcelNL said:

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I suspect updating the firmware of the USB chip on the MB is not the same as using it on a properly designed and externally powered USB card with dedicated clock....

 

 

Going to be an early Christmas hopefully 😄. I keep getting teaser pics of their Ultra USB but no release date from PF

[seeteeyou]

Lumafield Announces $35M Series B Funding, Major Product Upgrades and New Board Appointments

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lumafield-announces-35m-series-b-funding-major-product-upgrades-and-new-board-appointments-301619957.html

 

Lumafield Introduces Atlas, a Generative AI Tool That Solves Complex Engineering and Manufacturing Problems in Plain Language

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lumafield-introduces-atlas-a-generative-ai-tool-that-solves-complex-engineering-and-manufacturing-problems-in-plain-language-301927835.html

 

This new technology reveals classic iPods from the inside out
https://www.fastcompany.com/90751251/lumafield-ct-scanner-ipod-tony-fadell

 

 

Lumafield CT Shows How iPods Put 1,000 Songs in Your Pocket
https://www.scanofthemonth.com/scans/ipod-evolution

 

 

USB-C head-to-head comparison

https://www.lumafield.com/article/usb-c-cable-charger-head-to-head-comparison-apple-thunderbolt-amazon-basics

 

Before you judge me for drooling over these gorgeous 3D CT scans of USB cables I implore you to check them out yourself

https://www.pcgamer.com/before-you-judge-me-for-drooling-over-these-gorgeous-3d-ct-scans-of-usb-cables-i-implore-you-to-check-them-out-yourself/

 

 

I used an incredible X-ray machine to look inside my gadgets — let me show you

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/18/23640484/lumafield-neptune-ct-scanner-3d-x-ray-hands-on-interview

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He admits the Neptune has limitations compared to a traditional CT, like how it doesn’t readily scan objects larger than a bike helmet, doesn’t go down to one micron in resolution, and probably won’t help you dive into, say, individual chips on a circuit board. I found it hard to identify some digital components in my scans.

 

Every gadget we’ve X-rayed with a Lumafield CT scanner

https://www.theverge.com/23691563/x-ray-vision-gadget-storystream

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When Lumafield told me I could stick anything I liked into its $54,000 a year CT scanner, I filled an entire backpack with gadgets — because I knew I wanted to share my newfound Superman X-ray vision with you.

 

NVIDIA Expands Robotics Platform to Meet the Rise of Generative AI

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2023/10/18/metropolis-jetson-isaac-robotics-edge-ai-developers/

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Generative AI is expected to add $10.5 billion in revenue for manufacturing operations worldwide by 2033, according to ABI Research.

 

FYI - here's a YouTube playlist for those of us who are interested

 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUJxQGZB9bw69Y22ZmUmDsrCW19rT6cfG

 

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(Since we've got a thread about DIY here, let's pick @Nenon's brain and see how it goes.)

 

I might be wrong but not too many companies would have the dough for investing in a CT scanner, and then a lot of them wouldn't have in-house production to begin with. Other than Taiko Audio, just wondering how many of them could justify the ROI?

 

Antipodes Audio worked with ASUS.

 

Innuos worked with Supermicro.

 

JCAT worked with Adnaco.

 

SOtM worked with MiTAC.

 

Taiko Audio attempted to design their own motherboard but ultimately they picked WS C621E SAGE

 

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/taiko-audio-sgm-extreme-the-crème-de-la-crème.27433/page-88#post-613373

 

Do you (guys) think that Generative AI Tool and CT scanner could help us designing even better components for music servers?

 

Besides, not sure if the likes of ChatGPT were able to generate code for a device driver or a software player by any chance?

[MarcelNL]

48 minutes ago, flkin said:

 

 

Going to be an early Christmas hopefully 😄. I keep getting teaser pics of their Ultra USB but no release date from PF

is that going to cover two PCI slots? that might be a hard sell/fit for folks using a gaming MB, those tend to be low on PCI slots (you need one for a grapics card, one for network and one for digital output.

[MarcelNL]

24 minutes ago, seeteeyou said:

Lumafield Announces $35M Series B Funding, Major Product Upgrades and New Board Appointments

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lumafield-announces-35m-series-b-funding-major-product-upgrades-and-new-board-appointments-301619957.html

 

Lumafield Introduces Atlas, a Generative AI Tool That Solves Complex Engineering and Manufacturing Problems in Plain Language

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lumafield-introduces-atlas-a-generative-ai-tool-that-solves-complex-engineering-and-manufacturing-problems-in-plain-language-301927835.html

 

This new technology reveals classic iPods from the inside out
https://www.fastcompany.com/90751251/lumafield-ct-scanner-ipod-tony-fadell

 

 

Lumafield CT Shows How iPods Put 1,000 Songs in Your Pocket
https://www.scanofthemonth.com/scans/ipod-evolution

 

 

USB-C head-to-head comparison

https://www.lumafield.com/article/usb-c-cable-charger-head-to-head-comparison-apple-thunderbolt-amazon-basics

 

Before you judge me for drooling over these gorgeous 3D CT scans of USB cables I implore you to check them out yourself

https://www.pcgamer.com/before-you-judge-me-for-drooling-over-these-gorgeous-3d-ct-scans-of-usb-cables-i-implore-you-to-check-them-out-yourself/

 

 

I used an incredible X-ray machine to look inside my gadgets — let me show you

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/18/23640484/lumafield-neptune-ct-scanner-3d-x-ray-hands-on-interview

 

Every gadget we’ve X-rayed with a Lumafield CT scanner

https://www.theverge.com/23691563/x-ray-vision-gadget-storystream

 

NVIDIA Expands Robotics Platform to Meet the Rise of Generative AI

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2023/10/18/metropolis-jetson-isaac-robotics-edge-ai-developers/

 

FYI - here's a YouTube playlist for those of us who are interested

 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUJxQGZB9bw69Y22ZmUmDsrCW19rT6cfG

 

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(Since we've got a thread about DIY here, let's pick @Nenon's brain and see how it goes.)

 

I might be wrong but not too many companies would have the dough for investing in a CT scanner, and then a lot of them wouldn't have in-house production to begin with. Other than Taiko Audio, just wondering how many of them could justify the ROI?

 

Antipodes Audio worked with ASUS.

 

Innuos worked with Supermicro.

 

JCAT worked with Adnaco.

 

SOtM worked with MiTAC.

 

Taiko Audio attempted to design their own motherboard but ultimately they picked WS C621E SAGE

 

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/taiko-audio-sgm-extreme-the-crème-de-la-crème.27433/page-88#post-613373

 

Do you (guys) think that Generative AI Tool and CT scanner could help us designing even better components for music servers?

 

Besides, not sure if the likes of ChatGPT were able to generate code for a device driver or a software player by any chance?

interesting stuff! Likely material for a separate thread IMHO. The info in this thread is getting buried as it is.

 

[Mops911]

On 10/19/2023 at 5:22 AM, ciccio1112 said:

The motherboard features the ASMedia 3142 3.1 USB controller, which is the same as the one installed on the JCAT XE.

@Marcin_gps any way to upgrade your xe usb card? ASUS has upgrade tool…

[matthias]

On 10/19/2023 at 12:30 PM, MarcelNL said:

TACDA will have a USB output option..

Are you sure?

TACDA is the internal DAC daughter board which fits on their new interface board.

AFAIK, no USB out option.

 

Matt

[MarcelNL]

17 minutes ago, matthias said:

Are you sure?

TACDA is the internal DAC daughter board which fits on their new interface board.

AFAIK, no USB out option.

 

Matt

you are quite right, my bad!
 

[Marcin_gps]

3 hours ago, Mops911 said:

@Marcin_gps any way to upgrade your xe usb card? ASUS has upgrade tool…

Here is the guide how to upgrade the firmware: https://www.inateck.com/blogs/news/asm3142-firmware-upgrade-operation-steps on the USB XE

 

The latest firmware download can be found here: https://www.station-drivers.com/index.php/en-us/component/remository/Drivers/Asmedia/ASM-1x4x-2x4x-314x2-3242-4242--...--and--107x-USB-3.x--and--USB-4.x-Controllers/Firmwares/ASM-114x-214x-314x-USB-3.1-Controller/orderby,2/page,2/lang,en-us/?Itemid=0

[Mops911]

3 hours ago, Marcin_gps said:

Here is the guide how to upgrade the firmware:

thanks much @Marcin_gps do you think it’s worthwhile?

[seeteeyou]

 

DDR5 Wide Temp. UDIMM

https://www.apacer.com/en/product/industrial-product/detail/industrial_dram/ddr5_wide_temp_udimm

 

Apacer Creates the First Industrial-grade Wide-temperature DDR5 Memory Module Made with ICs Sourced Directly from Leading Manufacturers

https://www.apacer.com/en/news/news-and-events/content/widetemp_ddr5

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The newly launched wide-temperature DDR5 product line includes UDIMM, SODIMM, ECC UDIMM and ECC SODIMM versions, which support transmission rates up to 4800MT/s and 5600MT/s, and provide various capacity options such as 8GB, 16GB and 32GB to meet the varying needs of different customers.

 

That should be announced about 10 days ago, great choice for those of us who need something for a relatively new motherboard.

[Marcin_gps]

On 10/20/2023 at 10:06 PM, Mops911 said:

thanks much @Marcin_gps do you think it’s worthwhile?

The update is recommended for those with compatibility issues. 

[MarcelNL]

For those using a dual xeon what is the advise sa to which CPU carries the OS and which CPU the player etc?

 

I'm probably having to place both heatsinks above each other and think it's good to connect the CPU with the least heat generation to the upper heatsink but I wonder if there is a lot of difference.

(use case of simple WAV and FLAC streaming, 24bit at the highest, NO upsampling, no PGGB, no filtering no DSP)