EtherREGEN: Installation, Usage, Difficulty, Questions thread

[PYP]

11 hours ago, sot13 said:

 The effect of both fiber and ER might be additive... or not? Somebody must have tried this scenario already... 

 

In my system, hifi and physical, adding fiber has been beneficial.  In case you missed it, everything you wanted to know about the eR:  

 

 

[Mike Rubin]

I use the A side SFP as the connection to my optical device, with the ethernet feed from another switch connected to the eR.  The eR is powered by an ultra Cap 1.2.

 

My system never has sounded better. I can't think of one aspect of music reproduction that isn't at least a bit better and some - bass and imaging - are much better. I don't notice any concomitant downside.

 

All in all, in my system, anyway, using the eR as an FMC is a superb idea, especially if you don't need to use the extra A side connections. 

[sot13]

44 minutes ago, Mike Rubin said:

I use the A side SFP as the connection to my optical device, with the ethernet feed from another switch connected to the eR.  The eR is powered by an ultra Cap 1.2.

 

My system never has sounded better. I can't think of one aspect of music reproduction that isn't at least a bit better and some - bass and imaging - are much better. I don't notice any concomitant downside.

 

All in all, in my system, anyway, using the eR as an FMC is a superb idea, especially if you don't need to use the extra A side connections. 

Thank you @Mike Rubin for the answer... Can you please clarify the topology of your system i.e. how exactly fider is connected in relation to eR, as I am not sure that I understood that. Thank you in advance

[Mike Rubin]

I don't know how to create those slick flow charts, so I will repeat in prose what my signature below states:

 

Synology DS218+ NAS and NUC 10 i7 (Roon/Jriver/Audirvana -> copper ethernet cables -> xfinity xfi router -> copper ethernet cable —> Netgear unmanaged switch -> copper ethernet cable -> etherRegen B side -> SFP -> optical fiber cable -> SFP -> Sonore Signature Rendu SE optical version (built-in SFP port) -> USB cable -> DAC. 

[sot13]

10 minutes ago, Mike Rubin said:

I don't know how to create those slick flow charts, so I will repeat in prose what my signature below states:

 

Synology DS218+ NAS and NUC 10 i7 (Roon/Jriver/Audirvana -> copper ethernet cables -> xfinity xfi router -> copper ethernet cable —> Netgear unmanaged switch -> copper ethernet cable -> etherRegen B side -> SFP -> optical fiber cable -> SFP -> Sonore Signature Rendu SE optical version (built-in SFP port) -> USB cable -> DAC. 

This is great. Got it. So, you have eR reversed i.e. from B to A so you can connect fiber going ultimately to your DAC. Thank you

[Mike Rubin]

26 minutes ago, sot13 said:

This is great. Got it. So, you have eR reversed i.e. from B to A so you can connect fiber going ultimately to your DAC. Thank you

Exactly right!

[fuzzypoodle]

@Mike Rubin ... off topic ... can you share the details on your creative shelf for vertically housing ER+LPS ? ... never ending expansion of small LPS and cables calls for creative real estate solutions! :)

[Mike Rubin]

25 minutes ago, fuzzypoodle said:

@Mike Rubin ... off topic ... can you share the details on your creative shelf for vertically housing ER+LPS ? ... never ending expansion of small LPS and cables calls for creative real estate solutions! :)

It is this piece:

 

Hivexagon 2 Slot Vertical Laptop... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085MC6ZGL?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[fuzzypoodle]

Thanks! ... and what are the footers underneath ?

[Mike Rubin]

15 minutes ago, fuzzypoodle said:

Thanks! ... and what are the footers underneath ?

The Vibrapod-branded version of these, bought from Audio Advisor about 30 years ago.  These Pangea ones look like exactly the same product, just relabeled  to the AA house brand.  
 

They have absolutely zero impact on sound quality that I can hear, but they do get the stand off the shelf enough to improve the air circulation a bit.  I can’t measure temps, though, so I don’t know if they actually have any prophylactic effect in the overheating department.  The eR and Cap 1.2 both still run quite warm despite my ventilation efforts.

 

https://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=PGMEGA

[richard_crl032]

On 12/21/2020 at 7:28 AM, Superdad said:

 

Thank you for your order Richard. You are lucky to have gotten into to the January batch--as the very last available unit for that month!

 

Here is a quick status update for all (I'm supposed to be on vacation and unplugged until the 4th; good thing my wife does not read the forums or I would be in trouble ):

 

—All EtherREGENs promised for shipment by December 17th shipped off well ahead of schedule as is always my goal (on the 7th for domestic units, on the 11th for the internationals).

 

—We have zero units left on the shelf, but 250 circuit boards in production and due here about January 13th.  However, we have only about 80 aluminum cases in stock, with our 450 piece order for cases delayed for shipment from Japan around January 28th (hopefully sooner).

 

—Because of the above, you can see that for January we will be able to complete and ship only 80 units. And as of this afternoon those have all been pre-ordered by end-users (our dealers are getting shut out of January; guess I will deal with their unhappiness about this early in the month).

 

—Since we will have plenty of boards and time to program/test/affix heatsinks in advance of more aluminum cases arriving, I feel confident in quoting February 11th as the outside ship date for any new orders that people place now. And a reasonable chance such orders will ship a few days sooner than that.

 

Thank you all for your business and enthusiasm in 2020.  Looking forward not only to our pandemic-stricken world recovering next year, but also to releasing some of the very exciting (and still secret--so don't ask) new products we have been cooking up for a while. [Not Ethernet-related is all I will say. So keep buying EtherREGEN's--it will not change or be superseded in 2021.]

 

Wishing you good health and great music in 2021,

 

Alex Crespi

 

Hey Alex,

 

Received my EtherRegen this afternoon here in Singapore much earlier than expected ... thanks !

 

Was busy modifying my Bel Canto FM-1 tuner from green to blue led display with newly received vacuum desoldering kit for 72 pins of 4x 18 pins 8 segment leds but managed to hook up the EtherRegen with accompanying adaptor to my diy 2kVA isotrans in star topology and pulled out my unused Meicord Cat 6 ethernet cable to wired up my wifi mesh. From the EtherRegen, it is all Audio Revive metal shield ethernet cables to my Antipode EX+CX stack.

 

Wow ! Whichever and whatever limitation I had must had been serious and solved by having the EtherRegen because full flac internet radio station of HiOnLine, RadioParadize etc. as well as local lowly 64k AAC bitrate stations suddenly became more detailed, expansive and music just pops 🥳🥳.

 

Many thanks for having such a great product for 24/7 internet radio users like me.

 

Cheers.

 

Richard

[reruam]

So got the regen...

took the cage out of the optical module..

inserted it into the regen..

clock set to internal..

B side (remember I’m going B to A) has solid yellow and blinking green...

no lights on A side and optical Rendu won’t fully load, orange only.

Take out the regen and restore the optical module..all works fine..

 

suggestions?

 

Greg

[pl_svn]

11 minutes ago, reruam said:

suggestions?

check if the SFP module is actually connected

had to push it "pretty hard" in my ER's SFP cage to make it work

[Mike Rubin]

8 minutes ago, pl_svn said:

check if the SFP module is actually connected

had to push it "pretty hard" in my ER's SFP cage to make it work

Same here.  It requires quite a push to seat it.  Also, be careful that it doesn't dislodge if you have occasion to move the eR around at all. Mine has come loose while unplugging and re-plugging my rendu at the *other* end of the optical cable and when placing vibrapods under the notebook stand that holds my eR in an upright position. 

[reruam]

You guys are right....

however...

there’s a “lock” switch or something..

the small black lever...

engaged..doesn’t work..

left down or open..it works...

whatever...

 

Thank you!!

[Mike Rubin]

24 minutes ago, reruam said:

You guys are right....

however...

there’s a “lock” switch or something..

the small black lever...

engaged..doesn’t work..

left down or open..it works...

whatever...

 

Thank you!!

That's peculiar, but happy to hear that fiddling got it working. 

[Abolive]

Hello guys,

I'm sorry if this has been reashed before, but the threads about the ER are very rich: I'm looking for a RJ connector to terminate the cable plugged in the A side. Should I avoid metal and is there something you'd recommend ? Thanks

[xllms]

On 1/19/2021 at 2:11 AM, richard_crl032 said:

 

Hey Alex,

 

Received my EtherRegen this afternoon here in Singapore much earlier than expected ... thanks !

 

Was busy modifying my Bel Canto FM-1 tuner from green to blue led display with newly received vacuum desoldering kit for 72 pins of 4x 18 pins 8 segment leds but managed to hook up the EtherRegen with accompanying adaptor to my diy 2kVA isotrans in star topology and pulled out my unused Meicord Cat 6 ethernet cable to wired up my wifi mesh. From the EtherRegen, it is all Audio Revive metal shield ethernet cables to my Antipode EX+CX stack.

 

Wow ! Whichever and whatever limitation I had must had been serious and solved by having the EtherRegen because full flac internet radio station of HiOnLine, RadioParadize etc. as well as local lowly 64k AAC bitrate stations suddenly became more detailed, expansive and music just pops 🥳🥳.

 

Many thanks for having such a great product for 24/7 internet radio users like me.

 

Cheers.

 

Richard

Welcome to the eR family Richard 😃

[JohnSwenson]

On 1/21/2021 at 5:04 AM, Abolive said:

Hello guys,

I'm sorry if this has been reashed before, but the threads about the ER are very rich: I'm looking for a RJ connector to terminate the cable plugged in the A side. Should I avoid metal and is there something you'd recommend ? Thanks

Hi Abolive,

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do here. Are you trying to select an Ethernet cable and you are asking if you should be using a plastic or metal RJ45 on the cable you buy? Are you building your own Ethernet cable and want to know what plug type to buy? Something Else?

 

Thanks,

John S.

[Abolive]

Hello @JohnSwenson,

I am building my own Ethernet cable to go from a switch on the other side of the house to the ER. I dont know if there are precautions to take regarding grounding.

thank you

[Stereophonic]

Hi Everybody.

I have an issue connecting EtherRegen with my LG C9 TV.
It is very strange.
I have connected EtherRegen from router to A port and B to Server. If i connect TV to an A free port it doesn’t work, but if i connect TV (instead of server) on B port it works.
When i reverse B to A Server and TV plays perfectly but SQ decreases..
I don’t understand it.
TV connected directly to router works too.

 

Cheers !!!

[Cable Monkey]

Earth the ER and see how that compares.

[Stereophonic]

Thank you. 
How can i do it?

[Cable Monkey]

It will be in the instructions and may differ depending on where you are. But there is an earth terminal on the ER that needs to go to your mains earth. 

[Haimsh]

Are you sure? 

Connected to Mains   earth of just to the wall or to the floor?