Popular Post wgscott Posted August 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2019 (1) Choose an audio file format (24/480, DSD-HQX, GCQ, MQA, WTF, etc.) and be a total dick about it and refuse to listen to any music not available in your chosen format. (2) Make at least one claim that involves a palpably absurd physical impossibility, post this claim in every thread on every audio forum website, and develop a huge persecution complex whenever the people you relentlessly stalk have the temerity to call your claim into question. (3) Sell redundant organs like a kidney or eyeball (or ear?) to raise more cash for your next purchase of a new DAC that can play your chosen format (see #1) and that a reviewer on the take has stated punches above its veil-lifting potential. (4) Display your cables like jewelry. After all, you paid DeBeers Cartel prices for those things. An invisible wad of cable spaghetti in a corner cabinet is not what this hobby is all about. (5) Be totally obsessive about everything. Your compatriots/competitors in the hobby will think you are more bad-ass if your audiophile compulsive delusions precipitate a divorce. She will get the house, but you will get a new place with a dedicated listening room. (6) Claim to be discovering new physics. Those boys at CERN don't really know what they are talking about. New physics can be discovered by any late middle-aged bald guy with a liberal arts degree and a Zerostat from the comfort of his listening room chair. (7) Never use DSP or room correction software to alter the sound quality. The only acceptable options for adjusting the sound quality is via USB cables, via speaker cables, and via component interconnects. Note that the only acceptable direction for adjustment is up, as in a more expensive price tag for the USB cable, speaker cable, or component interconnect, which is synonymous with "sounds better." (8) The only output control worthy of an audiophile is the volume knob. The volume control can never operate in the digital domain, because, as an audiophile, you recognize that digital is fundamentally and demonstrably evil, ipso facto, regardless of how much bit depth is present to prevent dynamic compression. A staticy analogue potentiometer, however, adds character. (9) Pretend that 256kbps AAC (or mp3) is unlistenably bad, and is ultimately responsible for the collapse of Western Civilization. Forget about the international rise of right-wing nationalism, mass extinction, climate change and the incineration of the Amazon rain forest. This is the real problem we face in the world today. Take a principled stand, and make up whatever facts you need to make your virtue-signaling even more compelling. (10) Remember that libel and issuing death threats is perfectly reasonable when arguing about the intricacies of this fine hobby. Arken, firedog, John Dyson and 16 others 2 3 3 11 Link to comment
mansr Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, wgscott said: Those boys at CERN Hey, don't forget all the fine girls hard at work there. Link to comment
wgscott Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, mansr said: Hey, don't forget all the fine girls hard at work there. Women. (Or did Jeffery Epstein fund physicists there, too?) Ralf11 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Gavin Posted August 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2019 Brilliant and oh so close to the bone.... I laughed so loud it nearly toppled a Shakti Hallograph ;-) wgscott and esldude 1 1 Music room: Mac Mini>DCS U-Clock>DCS Puccini/Mytek Brooklyn>ATC SCM 50ASL Library: iMac>Schiit Modi>Schiit Sys>Genelec 8020 Travel: iPod Classic>Fostex HP-P1>Beyerdynamic DT1350 Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 The OP "opens a new world" and is “a miracle of modern digital-audio technology”! But you left out AC power cables, and pseudo-intellectual not-so-philo-sophical word-salad Link to comment
mansr Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 46 minutes ago, wgscott said: Women. My little sister will always be a girl in my eyes. Link to comment
Popular Post kumakuma Posted August 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2019 Still a few hours before Sandy Sandman wakes up and makes his obligatory FU Anti-Audiophiles post. Samuel T Cogley and Ralf11 1 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
sandyk Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 7 hours ago, wgscott said: Forget about the international rise of right-wing nationalism, mass extinction, climate change and the incineration of the Amazon rain forest. This is the real problem we face in the world today. That's probably the only really worthwhile point you made in the whole post ! Seriously though, given the extreme importance of the Amazon rain forest, should the rest of the world contribute financially to maintaining it's importance in order to prevent further destruction of the Amazon rain forest ? https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/23/amazon-fires-global-leaders-urged-divert-brazil-suicide-path wgscott 1 How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
sandyk Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 6 hours ago, kumakuma said: Still a few hours before Sandy Sandman wakes up and makes his obligatory FU Anti-Audiophiles post. And even fewer before you decide to resume your personal attacks on everybody you disagree with. kumakuma 1 How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 was he so obnoxious that 2 entire pages of posts were deleted? no - that was you Link to comment
sandyk Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: was he so obnoxious that 2 entire pages of posts were deleted? no - that was you It never ceases to amaze me how both you and Kumakuma refuse to accept any responsibility for the parts you and a few other anti Audiophile members played in the destruction of this thread and many others. How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
Popular Post Kimo Posted August 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2019 8 hours ago, wgscott said: (1) Choose an audio file format (24/480, DSD-HQX, GCQ, MQA, WTF, etc.) and be a total dick about it and refuse to listen to any music not available in your chosen format. (2) Make at least one claim that involves a palpably absurd physical impossibility, post this claim in every thread on every audio forum website, and develop a huge persecution complex whenever the people you relentlessly stalk have the temerity to call your claim into question. (3) Sell redundant organs like a kidney or eyeball (or ear?) to raise more cash for your next purchase of a new DAC that can play your chosen format (see #1) and that a reviewer on the take has stated punches above its veil-lifting potential. (4) Display your cables like jewelry. After all, you paid DeBeers Cartel prices for those things. An invisible wad of cable spaghetti in a corner cabinet is not what this hobby is all about. (5) Be totally obsessive about everything. Your compatriots/competitors in the hobby will think you are more bad-ass if your audiophile compulsive delusions precipitate a divorce. She will get the house, but you will get a new place with a dedicated listening room. (6) Claim to be discovering new physics. Those boys at CERN don't really know what they are talking about. New physics can be discovered by any late middle-aged bald guy with a liberal arts degree and a Zerostat from the comfort of his listening room chair. (7) Never use DSP or room correction software to alter the sound quality. The only acceptable options for adjusting the sound quality is via USB cables, via speaker cables, and via component interconnects. Note that the only acceptable direction for adjustment is up, as in a more expensive price tag for the USB cable, speaker cable, or component interconnect, which is synonymous with "sounds better." (8) The only output control worthy of an audiophile is the volume knob. The volume control can never operate in the digital domain, because, as an audiophile, you recognize that digital is fundamentally and demonstrably evil, ipso facto, regardless of how much bit depth is present to prevent dynamic compression. A staticy analogue potentiometer, however, adds character. (9) Pretend that 256kbps AAC (or mp3) is unlistenably bad, and is ultimately responsible for the collapse of Western Civilization. Forget about the international rise of right-wing nationalism, mass extinction, climate change and the incineration of the Amazon rain forest. This is the real problem we face in the world today. Take a principled stand, and make up whatever facts you need to make your virtue-signaling even more compelling. (10) Remember that libel and issuing death threats is perfectly reasonable when arguing about the intricacies of this fine hobby. I am going to give this a shot. 1. I choose vinyl. Oh yeah and flac. That was easy. 2. My system has so much air in it, my amp is known to float during the play back of certain Steely Dan tracks, but only on vinyl. 3. I just posted the organs of several members on a certain website, as being for sale. I consider these redundant to my self. Some of you should be getting PMs soon. 4. I wear my interconnects around my neck when I hit the clubs. 5. I am clearly obsessive enough. I am responding to each of these points. 6. I think I have this covered with my floating amp. Please advise. 7. I never use room correction. If necessary, I will build a new roon, or room. 8. Both my DAC and my amp have analog volume controls, and the remote for my tube amp only handles volume. I believe I am good here. 9. It does seem to me that things got worse, once Apple got profitable. 10. I cannot bring myself to do either. If I pack a pistol while typing I believe that I am standing my ground, though. AudioDoctor and kumakuma 2 Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 once again, I have missed the good stuff... No electron left behind. Link to comment
kumakuma Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, sandyk said: It never ceases to amaze me how both of you refuse to accept any responsibility for the parts you and a few other anti Audiophile members played in the destruction of this thread and many others. Huh? I thought you'd be thrilled by the "destruction" of an "Anti-Audiophile" thread like this. Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
sandyk Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, kumakuma said: Huh? I thought you'd be thrilled by the "destruction" of an "Anti-Audiophile" thread like this. Huh ? Ralf11 wasn't referring to this thread. At least Bill has made one extremely important point in his initial post. Mankind may very well end up needing Oxygen stations as in the TV series Dark Angel with Jessica Alba some years back , where rich corporations ruled the world. Ajax 1 How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
kumakuma Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 26 minutes ago, sandyk said: Huh ? Ralf11 wasn't referring to this thread. At least Bill has made one extremely important point in his initial post. Mankind may very well end up needing Oxygen stations as in the TV series Dark Angel with Jessica Alba some years back , where rich corporations ruled the world. Stop trying to distract us with pictures of beautiful women. 4est 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
wgscott Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 When I bike up a road called Alba near here, I feel like I need more oxygen. https://pjammcycling.com/climb/430.Alba Road Link to comment
sandyk Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, wgscott said: When I bike up a road called Alba near here, I feel like I need more oxygen. https://pjammcycling.com/climb/430.Alba Road That's a pretty steep grade with very little chance to get your breath back by the look of it. Heart attack material if you're not too fit. How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 4 hours ago, kumakuma said: Huh? I thought you'd be thrilled by the "destruction" of an "Anti-Audiophile" thread like this. 4 hours ago, kumakuma said: Just admit we've already formed a band - the "Disruptors" - and are launching our own Utube channel later this year Jessica Alba's skin care products are an advertiser Link to comment
marce Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Ralf11 said: was he so obnoxious that 2 entire pages of posts were deleted? no - that was you I missed that, what happened? Link to comment
Popular Post marce Posted August 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2019 the "anti-audiophile " rant is starting to niggle, just a lot! just because some, myself included don't buy into the more esoteric audiophile beliefs or ask questions about how this may be, we are labelled as outsiders to the hobby, against the hobby or worse. Our hearing is questioned, our systems are questioned, any information we put forward are questioned or just dismissed if they do not support the belief. Or just labelled as armchair experts relying on outdated information from textbooks. Or any experience in any other field of electronics is dismissed as irrelevant. I'm not anti-audiophile I disagree with some of the esoteric myths that detract from the real issues in sound reproduction... Ralf11, Hugo9000, wgscott and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment
sandyk Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, marce said: any information we put forward are questioned And rightly so. E.E.s are no more infallible than any other professional, including Doctors, Clergy, Scientists etc.. Just because you disagree with "Esoteric Myths" does not mean they are necessarily Myths, although in some cases they may be, just like with Green Pens for CD. Most of us realise that the more we know, how little we really know. How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted August 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, sandyk said: E.E.s are no more infallible than any other professional, including Doctors, Clergy, Scientists etc.. Please remember this quote next time you feel the need to put the letters “E.E.” in front of Martin Collums name or use them in any other way as if the letters themselves back up your claims about digital files. ...now waiting for the nasty response showing a lack of reading comprehension skills. Ralf11, sandyk, wgscott and 4 others 2 1 4 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Edifer M1380 system. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Audiophile Neuroscience Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 18 hours ago, wgscott said: (1) Choose an audio file format (24/480, DSD-HQX, GCQ, MQA, WTF, etc.) and be a total dick about it and refuse to listen to any music not available in your chosen format. (2) Make at least one claim that involves a palpably absurd physical impossibility, post this claim in every thread on every audio forum website, and develop a huge persecution complex whenever the people you relentlessly stalk have the temerity to call your claim into question. (3) Sell redundant organs like a kidney or eyeball (or ear?) to raise more cash for your next purchase of a new DAC that can play your chosen format (see #1) and that a reviewer on the take has stated punches above its veil-lifting potential. (4) Display your cables like jewelry. After all, you paid DeBeers Cartel prices for those things. An invisible wad of cable spaghetti in a corner cabinet is not what this hobby is all about. (5) Be totally obsessive about everything. Your compatriots/competitors in the hobby will think you are more bad-ass if your audiophile compulsive delusions precipitate a divorce. She will get the house, but you will get a new place with a dedicated listening room. (6) Claim to be discovering new physics. Those boys at CERN don't really know what they are talking about. New physics can be discovered by any late middle-aged bald guy with a liberal arts degree and a Zerostat from the comfort of his listening room chair. (7) Never use DSP or room correction software to alter the sound quality. The only acceptable options for adjusting the sound quality is via USB cables, via speaker cables, and via component interconnects. Note that the only acceptable direction for adjustment is up, as in a more expensive price tag for the USB cable, speaker cable, or component interconnect, which is synonymous with "sounds better." (8) The only output control worthy of an audiophile is the volume knob. The volume control can never operate in the digital domain, because, as an audiophile, you recognize that digital is fundamentally and demonstrably evil, ipso facto, regardless of how much bit depth is present to prevent dynamic compression. A staticy analogue potentiometer, however, adds character. (9) Pretend that 256kbps AAC (or mp3) is unlistenably bad, and is ultimately responsible for the collapse of Western Civilization. Forget about the international rise of right-wing nationalism, mass extinction, climate change and the incineration of the Amazon rain forest. This is the real problem we face in the world today. Take a principled stand, and make up whatever facts you need to make your virtue-signaling even more compelling. (10) Remember that libel and issuing death threats is perfectly reasonable when arguing about the intricacies of this fine hobby. You're on a roll ! 🤣 Can't wait for 11-20 . Bill, going out on a limb here but just perhaps , I'm guessing "Audiophile Style" is not your first preference for naming an Audiophile forum. I kinda like it .🥰 Sound Minds Mind Sound Link to comment
Audiophile Neuroscience Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, sandyk said: E.E.s are no more infallible than any other professional, including Doctors This is an outrage ! How can you be more infallible than infallible. Logic, man, please !😀 cambridgehank 1 Sound Minds Mind Sound Link to comment
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