Euphony OS w/Stylus player setup and issues thread

[davide256]

4 hours ago, Gbn said:

hello, someone can tell me if there is a difference to run Euphony from a key or it is better to load it on an internal ssd, I am still using the trial version and therefore I can not do the test. Thank you

Don’t sweat it, internal drive is more convenient but matters little for trial evaluation 

[al2813]

13 hours ago, Gbn said:

hello, someone can tell me if there is a difference to run Euphony from a key or it is better to load it on an internal ssd, I am still using the trial version and therefore I can not do the test. Thank you

 

I had better success loading it from an internal SSD but YMMV

[davide256]

On 1/11/2022 at 11:45 AM, davide256 said:

Bought a NUC 11i3TNH, turned off secure boot but can't get it to fully launch Euphony no matter how long I wait. Euphony show up in IP address scan but no http access,

boot screen shows no errors, boot complete. Working fine now off HQP NAA boot stick. Anyone had this problem and solved it? Running off JS-2 PS at 12V.

Opened ticket, after some investigation Željko advised NUC has newer ethernet HW thats not currently supported in Euphony Linux kernel, will have to wait for version 4. So

if considering the new 11TNH series of NUC's for Stylus, best to hold off until thats available

[an333]

44 minutes ago, davide256 said:

will have to wait for version 4.

Friends, nobody has information when expected version 4?

[sukmano]

11 hours ago, davide256 said:

Opened ticket, after some investigation Željko advised NUC has newer ethernet HW thats not currently supported in Euphony Linux kernel, will have to wait for version 4. So

if considering the new 11TNH series of NUC's for Stylus, best to hold off until thats available

Faced same issue … temporary workaround is to use a USB to ethernet adapter.  

[Gbn]

hello, I use a nuc i3 6100U with 32 Gb of ram, I disabled both the wifi and the blue thoot from the bios and everything I could disable except the network card, I don't trust to disable the fan, according to you it is better to make it fanless , improvements are achieved. Thank you

[davide256]

22 hours ago, sukmano said:

Faced same issue … temporary workaround is to use a USB to ethernet adapter.  

Thx, ordered 1, will see if that works

[flkin]

I’ve been told there will be an update to v3 with no added features coming. To prepare for v4 and perhaps bug solving. FYI

[edwardsean]

7 hours ago, flkin said:

I’ve been told there will be an update to v3 with no added features coming. To prepare for v4 and perhaps bug solving. FYI

 

I know this has been asked before, but do you know if v.4 is aiming for better SQ over v.3?

[flkin]

Sorry I know little about v4 apart that it was targeted for the end of last year which has now passed. So we might not have to wait that much longer for the answer. Some chatter about upsampling independence.. not from Euphony team but only what I gather. PGGB realtime probably won’t be integrated as apparently it’s too much work.

[davide256]

On 1/12/2022 at 9:08 PM, sukmano said:

Faced same issue … temporary workaround is to use a USB to ethernet adapter.  

Many thanks, working now with USB to Ethernet adaptor

[NanoSword]

 

8 hours ago, flkin said:

PGGB realtime probably won’t be integrated as apparently it’s too much work.

After hearing PGGB in Mac, Windows and Euphony using Stylus HQ Foobar, I became obsessed with using PGGB

Therefore, from my perspective, adding the PGGB - RT would be a very powerful step in favor of the Euphony v4

Even taiko server developer Emile will use PGGB in there next music player 

I hope Željko will also race to get PGGB-RT in his new OS.

[davide256]

34 minutes ago, NanoSword said:

 

After hearing PGGB in Mac, Windows and Euphony using Stylus HQ Foobar, I became obsessed with using PGGB

Therefore, from my perspective, adding the PGGB - RT would be a very powerful step in favor of the Euphony v4

Even taiko server developer Emile will use PGGB in there next music player 

I hope Željko will also race to get PGGB-RT in his new OS.

mmm, I just deleted all my PGGB files. They do sound wonderful with a Chord DAC. But using an SRC-DX DDC with Metrum Octave, I found that they diminished midrange

texture and weight in obtaining the increased instrument separation. So YMMV with PGGB based on DDC/DAC solution.

[davide256]

Anyone know if there is a way to backup/restore the local stylus database? I feel like tackling all the sort tagging issues but don't want the effort to be lost by

accident.

[NanoSword]

7 minutes ago, davide256 said:

They do sound wonderful with a Chord DAC

I think that what really distinguishes Taiko Emile is its attempt to obtain the compatibility of many devices with the system, software and hardware.

Even Željko will release Euphony 4 to make his system compatible with many new updates such as jcatXE .

There is nothing to prevent getting PGGB - RT with Euphony and getting the best of the best.

I'm just saying an opinion but the developer himself decides what he really wants to do.

[sukmano]

10 hours ago, davide256 said:

Many thanks, working now with USB to Ethernet adaptor

You are most welcome 

[flkin]

23 hours ago, davide256 said:

mmm, I just deleted all my PGGB files. They do sound wonderful with a Chord DAC. But using an SRC-DX DDC with Metrum Octave, I found that they diminished midrange

texture and weight in obtaining the increased instrument separation. So YMMV with PGGB based on DDC/DAC solution.

I didn’t delete all my PGGB files as it took too long to make them! Just kept them aside for the time being. 

 

But I too found that I prefer the sound of NOS files to upsampled ones in my Pink Faun 2.16x / Euphony setup. For me its mainly the slight loss of ambience and body thinning effect that did it.

 

Coincidentally, Zaphod B has the same DAC - a Vinnie Rossi DAC2 but probably paired with different components. 

[NanoSword]

I don't like to exaggerate too much, but PGGB has a natural sound that is not found in other players, and I think other players should add the PGGB feature to complete their player.

Even on devices that I consider noisy and not worth the sound, it benefits amazingly with PGGB.

I've tried Windows, HQ, Foobar-RT, Euphony Stylus HQ, and Mac HQ and always find that PGGB files more natural.

I highly appreciate the transparency of the sound and that it is natural, and that makes me biased towards choosing PGGB

In every comparison I've made, I involuntarily prefer content that contains PGGB and it's easy to say the best sound I can hear should be with PGGB, at least in my system with Chord Dac.

 

I purchased this album from HDtrack and used the Combine Tracks feature When I hear this track, I hear a full depth and better resolution than the original track In fact,there is no competition with the original Track in any way. The layers of sound that I hear from Melody only appear with the PGGB and the bass is huge and beautiful, everything is clear there are more details. In this stage and depth everything is in its place in an orderly manner but with the original track the sound is smudged.

There must be a lot of fans in PGGB who have a DAC other than CHORD I have read some have a gustard and some have TERMINATOR-PLUS 

 

Well I should not talk like this about the PGGB on the subject of Euphony but I have to say what I want in the next update

Also I have to say that Stylus is the best music player I have in Euphony I didn't get much use from Roon or HQ but PGGB was totally the best.

 

 

[flkin]

5 hours ago, NanoSword said:

I don't like to exaggerate too much, but PGGB has a natural sound that is not found in other players, and I think other players should add the PGGB feature to complete their player.

Even on devices that I consider noisy and not worth the sound, it benefits amazingly with PGGB.

I've tried Windows, HQ, Foobar-RT, Euphony Stylus HQ, and Mac HQ and always find that PGGB files more natural.

I highly appreciate the transparency of the sound and that it is natural, and that makes me biased towards choosing PGGB

In every comparison I've made, I involuntarily prefer content that contains PGGB and it's easy to say the best sound I can hear should be with PGGB, at least in my system with Chord Dac.

 

I purchased this album from HDtrack and used the Combine Tracks feature When I hear this track, I hear a full depth and better resolution than the original track In fact,there is no competition with the original Track in any way. The layers of sound that I hear from Melody only appear with the PGGB and the bass is huge and beautiful, everything is clear there are more details. In this stage and depth everything is in its place in an orderly manner but with the original track the sound is smudged.

There must be a lot of fans in PGGB who have a DAC other than CHORD I have read some have a gustard and some have TERMINATOR-PLUS 

 

Well I should not talk like this about the PGGB on the subject of Euphony but I have to say what I want in the next update

Also I have to say that Stylus is the best music player I have in Euphony I didn't get much use from Roon or HQ but PGGB was totally the best.

 

 

Did I understand you correctly, that you like PGGB? 😬

[flkin]

For sure adding PGGB into Euphony was considered - apparently Željko reached out to Zaphod immediately after learning about his software but discovered it wasn’t a trivial job to add it. Then it was a matter of deciding whether to spend time on integration or working on getting the v4 (or v3 versions at that time) out. Given Euphony already has HQPlayer integrated and might also be wanting to work on their own upsampler instead, the choice was clear. 
 

Like most decisions in life, it’s all a matter of priority.

[NanoSword]

looking forward to what Željko will offer .

[PavelDosko]

too secret for my taste, whether with the date of the new version, with its content and price ... I think it would be appropriate to state at least some facts. I bought Euphony about 5 months ago and now I don't know what the transition to the new version will mean.

[davide256]

So I finally have 3 computing devices of reasonable CPU power to play with. And probably to no one’s surprise who is an HQPlayer fan, Roon which sounds “ok” using HQPe to NAA sounds MUCH better if you can run Roon server to separate HQPe server to NAA. Is there a way to duplicate this with Euphony Stylus?

Stylus server > separate HQPe server > NAA

my setup

i3 NUC > i5 PC > Atom PC

[PavelDosko]

Euphony - Euphony Endpoint

[davide256]

6 hours ago, PavelDosko said:

Euphony - Euphony Endpoint

That wouldn't separate HQPe out to run natively on its own server.