daverich4 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Not that anyone here uses USB anyway.... http://cdm.link/2019/02/apple-2018-glitch/?fbclid=IwAR2RD3_r5nGms0j4HMHdxSqaSwpWXGhbxfJAJACDK7c2fFfd7Bb7zlY2KSw Link to comment
rickca Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 That's horrible. I guess people can stop pretending that Apple cares about music. Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
JoeWhip Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I read the thread and am wondering, if using the Apple supplied thunderbolt to USB adapter bypasses this issue. Link to comment
Samuel T Cogley Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, JoeWhip said: I read the thread and am wondering, if using the Apple supplied thunderbolt to USB adapter bypasses this issue. To make matters even more confusing, Apple's TB3 is presented as a USB-C connector, right? Link to comment
JoeWhip Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I don’t know. Will check into it. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Well, there goes that upgrade... I'll soldier on with this iMac for a while longer I guess. No electron left behind. Link to comment
JoeWhip Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just checked. Yep. Geez... I guess my next one will have to be an audiophile jobbie Link to comment
Superdad Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Wow! UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 There are other USB issues with Macs I have had to put a USB hub on my iMac (2017) so that I can keep my LYR3 up and running. Without the Hub Roon keeps loosing the DAC. My Audio Systems Link to comment
JoeWhip Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I have a Mac book feeding an Yggy via usb and have not had one issue. Using A+ Link to comment
daverich4 Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 15 hours ago, JoeWhip said: I have a Mac book feeding an Yggy via usb and have not had one issue. Using A+ Is it a 2018 model? Link to comment
Popular Post AudioDoctor Posted February 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, JoeWhip said: No. : facepalm : wgscott and Jud 2 No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 The T2 chip is why I decided to get away from direct USB connections and go to a network connection. Any why I have not bought a new Mac just yet. my 2017 iMac is identical to the one you can get now, until they upgrade that with the T2 chip as well. No electron left behind. Link to comment
daverich4 Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, JoeWhip said: No. Umm, if you follow the link I posted, the USB problems are with the 2018 models. Link to comment
JoeWhip Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I was responding to Bobfa and issues with his 2017 Mac. Sorry for the confusion. daverich4 1 Link to comment
ferenc Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I have an 18 core iMac Pro, using different USB DACs, including iFi (usb3), Holo Audio Spring 2 (usb3), Singxer SU-1 (usb2), Heed Abacus (usb2) for example, and got no problem with the USB connection using 10.14.3 and 10.14.4 beta 2 (developer beta). The Holo Spring 2 can be used up to 1,536 kHz in 16 bit but does not work in 24 bit above 768 kHz. However there is a problem with Merging Hapi, using Ethernet connection, oficailly it is not compatible with 10.14. and works only with 10.13.6 or earlier. nerving was kind enough to send me the beta of their new driver and it is compatible with 10.14. 3 and 4 beta 2 as well, I tried it with a MacBook Pro, and iMac pro and Mac Mini as well. if you have a MacBook Pro with TB3 connection try to use an Elgato TB3 dock and connect your USB d/a converter to the dock. I am using a 20V, 10A linear PSU to power the dock and all the USB devices too and it sounds very good this way. . AudioDoctor 1 Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Fun Fact: Apple bought up all domain names that might criticize it (such as AppleSux.com) to prevent people from saying bad things about the cruel overlords. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 6 hours ago, ferenc said: I have an 18 core iMac Pro, using different USB DACs, including iFi (usb3), Holo Audio Spring 2 (usb3), Singxer SU-1 (usb2), Heed Abacus (usb2) for example, and got no problem with the USB connection using 10.14.3 and 10.14.4 beta 2 (developer beta). The Holo Spring 2 can be used up to 1,536 kHz in 16 bit but does not work in 24 bit above 768 kHz. However there is a problem with Merging Hapi, using Ethernet connection, oficailly it is not compatible with 10.14. and works only with 10.13.6 or earlier. nerving was kind enough to send me the beta of their new driver and it is compatible with 10.14. 3 and 4 beta 2 as well, I tried it with a MacBook Pro, and iMac pro and Mac Mini as well. if you have a MacBook Pro with TB3 connection try to use an Elgato TB3 dock and connect your USB d/a converter to the dock. I am using a 20V, 10A linear PSU to power the dock and all the USB devices too and it sounds very good this way. . Now this is a useful post. No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Ralf11 said: Fun Fact: Apple bought up all domain names that might criticize it (such as AppleSux.com) to prevent people from saying bad things about the cruel overlords. I bet I can think of one they haven't... No electron left behind. Link to comment
NOMBEDES Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/19/2019 at 3:44 PM, rickca said: That's horrible. I guess people can stop pretending that Apple cares about music. Apple has NEVER cared about quality sound. Never. There are various threads here concerning DACs not having the proper drivers after an "update". Don't forget the Apple workforce is populated by young people who have never heard a real stereo, much less an audiophile approved system. To these whippersnappers, a $25 ear bud is the high end. In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake ~ Sayre's Law Link to comment
Taz777 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/20/2019 at 12:44 AM, bobfa said: There are other USB issues with Macs I have had to put a USB hub on my iMac (2017) so that I can keep my LYR3 up and running. Without the Hub Roon keeps loosing the DAC. I've had zero issues 'recognition' issues with five different DACs on my 2017 iMac. I have had issues with EMI on some DACs, which I consequently returned. Were you using the USB-A or USB-C ports to connect your DAC? Link to comment
new_media Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/20/2019 at 10:15 AM, AudioDoctor said: The T2 chip is why I decided to get away from direct USB connections and go to a network connection. Any why I have not bought a new Mac just yet. my 2017 iMac is identical to the one you can get now, until they upgrade that with the T2 chip as well. I'm planning to buy a 2019 iMac as soon as they come out, but I guess I will have to keep an eye on this issue. My desktop Sprout is the only audio device I have connected via USB, and a $150 investment in a certified Thunderbolt dock isn't that big of a deal. I'll probably need the extra ports anyway. Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 57 minutes ago, Taz777 said: I've had zero issues 'recognition' issues with five different DACs on my 2017 iMac. I have had issues with EMI on some DACs, which I consequently returned. Were you using the USB-A or USB-C ports to connect your DAC? The issue is with the WYRD. The power control on the Mac disables it all the time and I have power on/off remount in Roon. Schiit knows about it and there is nothing that they can do. Put in a USB hub and it works. USBA My Audio Systems Link to comment
Superdad Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, bobfa said: The issue is with the WYRD. The power control on the Mac disables it all the time and I have power on/off remount in Roon. Schiit knows about it and there is nothing that they can do. Put in a USB hub and it works. USBA That's funny because the Schiit WYRD is a USB hub. Must be something about the way they run the VBUS in it or the suspend state stuff because our original USB REGEN uses the same model SMSC hub chip as the WYRD. UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
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