fas42 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Yes, I was being generic in my response ... Sheffield Lab is the main offender, a bit of DMP, a couple of others I would need to look up - their 'crime' is a sense of sterility, being Politically Correct; I always need to put on a joyous recording following, to take the taste of sitting bolt upright, with perfect posture while nodding approvingly, out of my mouth, . I listen to extremely little from the loudness war era - recordings prior to that have everything for good listening, including pop and rock - I can point here to the original ABBA album; this blows me away every time I put it on - a powerhouse of musical vitality ... audiobomber and Teresa 1 1 Link to comment
Teresa Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said: Another "audiophile" label was DCC ("Digital Compact Classics"). Steve Hoffman definitely used some specialized tube gear between the tape playback and digital capture devices for "warmth". So there is precedent for "distortions" in the mastering chain. Were the DCC discs the best masters in their day? I would say almost always. Do they all hold up today to modern, "white glove" mastering? Meh. Perhaps I was not clear enough, I was discussing audiophile labels who make their own recordings. Such recordings are audiophile from the microphones to the finished product. DCC, like MFSL. etc. are audiophile remaster labels. They remaster major label recordings. Also, Analogue Productions releases remastered material as well, if you want their own recordings make sure it says Analogue Productions Originals or APO. Samuel T Cogley 1 I have dementia. I save all my posts in a text file I call Forums. I do a search in that file to find out what I said or did in the past. I still love music. Teresa Link to comment
fas42 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Another album that is a true masterpiece: Bridge Over Troubled Waters - I have just an el cheapo release CD ... but this is music that is absolutely fabulous ... a tremendous emotional ride every time I listen through the whole album, from start to finish - which is the way I aways listen to music, BTW. The_K-Man 1 Link to comment
kumakuma Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 53 minutes ago, Teresa said: Also, Analogue Productions releases remastered material as well, if you want their own recordings make sure it says Analogue Productions Originals or APO. AP's remastered classic blues and jazz albums are also typically very good. Teresa 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
matthias Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 A minimalist cd player from Japan: http://sparkler-audio.com/portfolio/S503_en.html Matt "I want to know why the musicians are on stage, not where". (John Farlowe) Link to comment
matthias Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Great sound with a simple cd player: Matt "I want to know why the musicians are on stage, not where". (John Farlowe) Link to comment
fas42 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, matthias said: Great sound with a simple cd player: Matt This clip shows a classic sound issue that so many systems have - a star rubber stamp on the back of the hand for the first one who picks it ... Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted January 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, fas42 said: This clip shows a classic sound issue that so many systems have - a star rubber stamp on the back of the hand for the first one who picks it ... Easy. It's not sorted. Blake, Ralf11 and daverich4 1 2 Link to comment
fas42 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Well, a bit more detail is helpful ... it's an actual, very marked characteristic - specifically, it's one that I battled with 30 years ago ... Link to comment
The_K-Man Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, mansr said: Easy. It's not sorted. ? In the video most of only one track is played, so I'm not sure what you mean. Link to comment
The_K-Man Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, fas42 said: Well, a bit more detail is helpful ... it's an actual, very marked characteristic - specifically, it's one that I battled with 30 years ago ... And what would that be, oh Golden Ears? Link to comment
fas42 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, The_K-Man said: And what would that be, oh Golden Ears? Well, this is a test, for others ... to me, there is something very obvious in the quality of the sound, perfectly clear in spite of being YouTube, etc - can you pick it? Link to comment
mansr Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, The_K-Man said: ? In the video most of only one track is played, so I'm not sure what you mean. I see you're not yet acquainted with Frank. Link to comment
semente Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 22 hours ago, matthias said: A minimalist cd player from Japan: http://sparkler-audio.com/portfolio/S503_en.html Matt Looks like another 47labs knock-off... I had the original; it was rubbish. "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
The_K-Man Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, fas42 said: Well, this is a test, for others ... to me, there is something very obvious in the quality of the sound, perfectly clear in spite of being YouTube, etc - can you pick it? Being as it's playing through the microphone(s) of the recording camera it's not that obvious to me. Link to comment
semente Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, matthias said: Great sound with a simple cd player With that CD player and a pair of single-driver speakers? Not possible. "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
kumakuma Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 31 minutes ago, fas42 said: Well, a bit more detail is helpful ... it's an actual, very marked characteristic - specifically, it's one that I battled with 30 years ago ... hubris? Hugo9000 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
The_K-Man Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, semente said: With that CD player and a pair of single-driver speakers? Not possible. I know. For audiophiles, great sound is not possible with fewer than 6 drivers per cabinet! Link to comment
fas42 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, The_K-Man said: Being as it's playing through the microphone(s) of the recording camera it's not that obvious to me. The camera mic is not limiting in the slightest what I'm talking about - but the clarity of the setup you're watching the clip on may be clouding it somewhat. Link to comment
fas42 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, kumakuma said: hubris? I'll give you a clue - focus on the "naturalness" of the sound ... Link to comment
kumakuma Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, fas42 said: I'll give you a clue - focus on the "naturalness" of the sound ... still getting hubris... Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
The_K-Man Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, fas42 said: I'll give you a clue - focus on the "naturalness" of the sound ... Is it a production value with that particular recording? Link to comment
fas42 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, The_K-Man said: I know. For audiophiles, great sound is not possible with fewer than 6 drivers per cabinet! Just for you, ... one of my experiments was using a cheap Aldi Blu-ray player, connected to an Aldi flat screen TV, via HDMI/ Played some CDs, and just using the inbuilt, tiny front facing speakers of the TV itself - I was able to coax out a pretty decent sound field. No bass, the plastic rattled when the volume got up, the limits of the amps were reached quickly - but it threw up an acceptable soundstage ... just to show, "how low can you go ... ?" . Link to comment
fas42 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, kumakuma said: still getting hubris... Tsk ... Link to comment
The_K-Man Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, fas42 said: Just for you, ... one of my experiments was using a cheap Aldi Blu-ray player, connected to an Aldi flat screen TV, via HDMI/ Played some CDs, and just using the inbuilt, tiny front facing speakers of the TV itself - I was able to coax out a pretty decent sound field. No bass, the plastic rattled when the volume got up, the limits of the amps were reached quickly - but it threw up an acceptable soundstage ... just to show, "how low can you go ... ?" . Great content will shine through, even in circumstances and on gear as you described. fas42 1 Link to comment
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