Munich High End Show 2017

[EuroChamp]

4 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I think this Marten room was my best of show. 

 

Yes it was really good, indeed. But of course is a matter of personal taste.

 

While I was in the MBL room, they played Simone Kermes (soprano) singing from Mozarts Zauberflöte. If I did not know better, I would say, it was a live act - absolutely WOW!

 

And I really liked the Blumenhofer Gran Gioia with the Mastersound amp (single ended 845er tubes). It was so incredible vivid and the full frequency range from bottom to top was extremely well balanced for my liking.

 

Marten had a minimal shift to the higher frequencies in my opinion. Maybe I only don't like those membrane material in general.

[MarkS]

What was in the Marten room.  I've heard the Coltrane system once and thought it was excellent (but I do not recall what it was playing with at that time).

[EuroChamp]

2 minutes ago, MarkS said:

What was in the Marten room.  I've heard the Coltrane system once and thought it was excellent (but I do not recall what it was playing with at that time).

 

Don't get me wrong - Marten was among the very best of the show. And the level this year was very high!

[Albrecht]

3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I think this Marten room was my best of show. 

I wish I would've been able to attend. I wonder if the Marten's sounded so good because they copied Kharma designs. Or, is Kharma gone now?

[The Computer Audiophile]

1 minute ago, Albrecht said:

I wish I would've been able to attend. I wonder if the Marten's sounded so good because they copied Kharma designs. Or, is Kharma gone now?

 

I've listened to Kharma extensively in a familiar environment, and believe the Marten's are much better for my taste.

[Albrecht]

Just now, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I've listened to Kharma extensively in a familiar environment, and believe the Marten's are much better for my taste.

Wow.... I am always surprised when someone asserts that ANY speaker is better than Kharma. IME, - I've never heard 1. This means that I HAVE to hear those Martens. Thanks!

[Nikhil]

I liked both Marten rooms ...

Marten Room with Coltrane Tenor 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moMP6ipo7G0

Engstrom Room with Marten Coltrane 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LM1WHzA0ao

[matthias]

5 hours ago, Nikhil said:

I liked both Marten rooms ...
Marten Room with Coltrane Tenor 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moMP6ipo7G0
Engstrom Room with Marten Coltrane 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LM1WHzA0ao

 

Nikhil,

do you have a video from the Aries Cerat booth as well?

 

Matt

[Nikhil]

41 minutes ago, matthias said:

 

Nikhil,

do you have a video from the Aries Cerat booth as well?

 

Matt

 

Unfortunately no.  But have you seen these?

 

http://www.monoandstereo.com/2017/05/aries-cerat-at-munich-high-end-audio_20.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[matthias]

1 hour ago, Nikhil said:

 

Unfortunately no.  But have you seen these?

http://www.monoandstereo.com/2017/05/aries-cerat-at-munich-high-end-audio_20.html

 

Yes, thanks.

It is a pity that Aries Cerat had no room in one of the atria at the upper level.

 

Matt

[andifor]

Who did listen to these Western Electric speakers? They sounded just awesome! 

 

 

[andifor]

7 minutes ago, andifor said:

Who did listen to these Western Electric speakers? They sounded just awesome! 

 

 

 

Can you imagine their sound with real cables? ;o)

 

 

[matthias]

1 hour ago, andifor said:

Who did listen to these Western Electric speakers? They sounded just awesome! 

 

 

 

They did some things extremely well, but sounded coloured.

 

Matt

[EuroChamp]

5 hours ago, andifor said:

 

Can you imagine their sound with real cables? ;o)

 

 

 

I would definitely not underestimate these old cables!

[The Computer Audiophile]

2 minutes ago, EuroChamp said:

 

I would definitely not underestimate these old cables!

 

They are soooooo broken in :~)

[Nikhil]

The WE Mirrophonic M2 system was designed for cinema theaters back in the 1930s.

On the right music the sound was just glorious.

 

Joe Roberts is the man when it comes to Western Electric.

Here is Joe introducing the M2 system at Munich 2017

 

 

[matthias]

Matt

[realhifi]

On 5/19/2017 at 9:05 AM, Jud said:

OK, who's got the new Sgt Pepper hi res ripped and playing?  (Along the lines of your discussion about why people don't play music at shows that might have some popularity and appeal.  If I heard "Pepper" coming out of a room, I'd run to get there.)

 

It is cool to hear some of that old classic stuff on great systems!  

[realhifi]

On 5/19/2017 at 10:05 AM, The Computer Audiophile said:

New quad esl60

 

 

Well hello!  GOT to hear those. 

[realhifi]

On 5/20/2017 at 9:31 AM, The Computer Audiophile said:

I just thought of an idea I would love to see at shows. Manufacturers may not like it, but here it goes: a large touchscreen at the door where people can add songs to the queue and wait to hear their songs. I would listen to way more stuff for way longer if this was in place. 

 Don't you think that's part of the idea?  Get people in and get people out. If there is a spark of interest then they can find product again at their nearest dealer and really listen and evaluate under much better conditions. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

9 minutes ago, realhifi said:

 Don't you think that's part of the idea?  Get people in and get people out. If there is a spark of interest then they can find product again at their nearest dealer and really listen and evaluate under much better conditions. 

 

Yes and no. At a show there are thousands of products. I forget most of the products I see and hear at shows. I remember the stuff that leaves an impression on me and that's only done with specific music and a certain amount of time. Plus, the overall experience of thinking the manufacturer actually cares enough to let me decide what I want to hear is a nice feeling. 

[andifor]

On 5/25/2017 at 4:37 PM, matthias said:

 

They did some things extremely well, but sounded coloured.

 

Matt

 

Might well be, but I can't comment on that, as they didn't play anything I usually listen to.

[AmusedToD]

I fell in love with TAD Micro Evolution One's. In my opinion, they were the best sounding speakers at the show relative to their price (although driven by some pretty impressive and very expensive electronics, also from TAD). By the way, TAD had the best presentation at the show: the choice of music, the presenters, the atmosphere - absolutely fabulous. 

 

The little S40 from Dynaudio (driven by some crappy NADs) was also impressive for a €3,000 speaker. 

 

I NEED TO HAVE TAD, but can't afford it now  

[loop7]

On 5/21/2017 at 4:15 AM, The Computer Audiophile said:

Wilson / Nagra sounding nice this afternoon. 

 

Wilson / Nagra setup video (YouTube): 

 

 

[semente]

On 24 May 2017 at 6:34 PM, Albrecht said:

I wish I would've been able to attend. I wonder if the Marten's sounded so good because they copied Kharma designs. Or, is Kharma gone now?

 

I've never listened to Kharma speakers but my listening experiences with Marten we're less than positive, something which I would partly attribute to the use of ceramic drivers and first order filters.