acatala Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 3 hours ago, maya said: Hi acatala , Are you using NUC HOPe - Up Gateway USB NAA and Roon? Do you play PCM --> DSD ? If do you may need 4.22.1-63 with its DSP algorithm it can drop CPU by 30 % ! Hi @maya, I use Intel NUC 7i7xxx with Debian 10.8, UP Gateway USB NAA, Roon and play PCM to DSD128. hqplayerd 4.22.1 was not working for me, but 4.22.0 and 4.22.2 do. The Intel NUC manages DSD128 upsampling, with poly-sync-xtr-mp-2s filter and ASDM7 modulator, fine. I even own a Raspberry Pi3 + Allo DigiOne transport, that I use from time to time with no DSP at all, it allows me a low latency from UI interaction to music play/pause. I guess @Miska will eventually solve any issue regarding the compiler and we will have the new algorithm in our hqplayerd. He always does. Link to comment
Miska Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 hours ago, maya said: * Needs to install ROCm libraries? Yes, now both Focal builds (Intel and AMD) require same set of libraries. tieuphi2006 1 Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
maya Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, Miska said: Yes, now both Focal builds (Intel and AMD) require same set of libraries. Is installation of rocm library in Ubuntu a straightforward process ? I use Debian which is a painful experience. Link to comment
Miska Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, maya said: Is installation of rocm library in Ubuntu a straightforward process ? Yes, Step 2 of the instructions and that's it. You need to add the repository key, repository and do "apt update" and then you are good to go. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
hifi25nl Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 HQPlayer Desktop Fedora fc33 version 4.10.2 (previous version working fine): [audiolinux@archlinux ~]$ hqplayer4desktop locale=en_US, country=United States, language=English ALSA lib control.c:1471:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL ALSA lib control.c:1471:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL ALSA lib pcm.c:2660:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM ALSA lib control.c:1471:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL ALSA lib control.c:1471:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL ALSA lib pcm.c:2660:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM Segmentation fault (core dumped) AudioLinux --> https://www.audio-linux.com developer of AudioLinux realtime OS Link to comment
maya Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, acatala said: Hi @maya, I use Intel NUC 7i7xxx with Debian 10.8, UP Gateway USB NAA, Roon and play PCM to DSD128. hqplayerd 4.22.1 was not working for me, but 4.22.0 and 4.22.2 do. The Intel NUC manages DSD128 upsampling, with poly-sync-xtr-mp-2s filter and ASDM7 modulator, fine. I even own a Raspberry Pi3 + Allo DigiOne transport, that I use from time to time with no DSP at all, it allows me a low latency from UI interaction to music play/pause. I guess @Miska will eventually solve any issue regarding the compiler and we will have the new algorithm in our hqplayerd. He always does. Thanks for reply. Jussi's DSP optimization is great. My Debian 10 build without ROCm libraries can do his Buster 4.22.1-63 HQPe to achieve 30 % drop in CPU usage, it is a real surprise for me. So if you are interested hope I can put it on the cloud for download. BTW I only use local audio file as it has better SQ. Link to comment
maya Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Miska said: Yes, Step 2 of the instructions and that's it. You need to add the repository key, repository and do "apt update" and then you are good to go. No step 3 needed, no need to install rocm-dkms etc ? Rocm libraries already installed in Ubuntu 20.0 LTS ? Link to comment
Miska Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, hifi25nl said: HQPlayer Desktop Fedora fc33 version 4.10.2 (previous version working fine): [audiolinux@archlinux ~]$ hqplayer4desktop locale=en_US, country=United States, language=English ALSA lib control.c:1471:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL ALSA lib control.c:1471:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL ALSA lib pcm.c:2660:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM ALSA lib control.c:1471:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL ALSA lib control.c:1471:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL ALSA lib pcm.c:2660:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM Segmentation fault (core dumped) Hmmh, working here though: Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Miska Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, maya said: No step 3 needed, no need to install rocm-dkms etc ? Of course only if you have AMD GPU, then you naturally need the drivers too in order to use it. Quote Rocm libraries already installed in Ubuntu 20.0 LTS ? They will get pulled in through the dependencies once you have the repository available. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
maya Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Miska said: Of course only if you have AMD GPU, then you naturally need the drivers too in order to use it. They will get pulled in through the dependencies once you have the repository available. Understood thanks . Link to comment
maya Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, maya said: Understood thanks . Buster HQPe 4.22.1-63 OS size is only 1.9 G compared with its focal counterpart which is much bigger ! Link to comment
tieuphi2006 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 what is wrong with new hq, i’m can’t install, using intel i5 8xxx + ubuntu. with me is intel, not amd install Rocm libraries necessary. thank miska. Link to comment
maya Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, tieuphi2006 said: what is wrong with new hq, i’m can’t install, using intel i5 8xxx + ubuntu. with me is intel, not amd install Rocm libraries necessary. thank miska. Hi https://rocmdocs.amd.com/en/latest/Installation_Guide/Installation-Guide.html Miska said to do step 1 and step 2 I use Debian HQPe. tieuphi2006 1 Link to comment
Miska Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, maya said: Hi https://rocmdocs.amd.com/en/latest/Installation_Guide/Installation-Guide.html Miska said to do step 1 and step 2 I use Debian HQPe. Just step 2. It is unnecessary to install libnuma-dev in step 1. tieuphi2006 1 Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
maya Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Miska said: Just step 2. It is unnecessary to install libnuma-dev in step 1. I see thx Link to comment
tieuphi2006 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 sudo dpkg -i hqplayerd_4.22.2-65_amd64.deb Selecting previously unselected package hqplayerd. (Reading database ... 199745 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack hqplayerd_4.22.2-65_amd64.deb ... Unpacking hqplayerd (4.22.2-65) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of hqplayerd: hqplayerd depends on libgmpris; however: Package libgmpris is not installed. hqplayerd depends on rocm-libs; however: Package rocm-libs is not installed. hqplayerd depends on rocm-device-libs; however: Package rocm-device-libs is not installed. dpkg: error processing package hqplayerd (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: hqplayerd Link to comment
tieuphi2006 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 sudo apt install rocm-dkms Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: hqplayerd : Depends: rocm-libs but it is not going to be installed Depends: rocm-device-libs but it is not going to be installed rocm-dkms : Depends: rocm-dev but it is not going to be installed Depends: rock-dkms but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution). Link to comment
tieuphi2006 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 i hope it’s running https://rocmdocs.amd.com/en/latest/Installation_Guide/ROCk-kernel.html Link to comment
maya Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 hours ago, tieuphi2006 said: sudo apt install rocm-dkms Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: hqplayerd : Depends: rocm-libs but it is not going to be installed Depends: rocm-device-libs but it is not going to be installed rocm-dkms : Depends: rocm-dev but it is not going to be installed Depends: rock-dkms but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution). Hi tieuphi2006, I have successfully installed Focal HQPe 4.2.21 version under Debian 11 after solving all these dependencies including the rocm-libs and rocm-dkms needed in step 3 etc. After that no issues to upgrade to the latest focal HQPe 4.22-65 and 4.2.22-66. Meanwhile the OS became quite large, its size now is about 8.6G instead of 1.9 G in Debian 11 focal 4.19 HQPe ! Please check my thread on page 138. It was a painful and confusing process indeed ! To me it is always a question what will happen to install focal 4.2.xx HQPe if under Ubuntu distro. I asked Jussi about this on page 147 please have a look for miska's answer. Good luck ! tieuphi2006 1 Link to comment
hifi25nl Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Why there is not a hqplayerd version 4.22.2 for fc33? https://www.signalyst.eu/bins/hqplayerd/fc33/ AudioLinux --> https://www.audio-linux.com developer of AudioLinux realtime OS Link to comment
Miska Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 4:27 PM, hifi25nl said: Why there is not a hqplayerd version 4.22.2 for fc33? https://www.signalyst.eu/bins/hqplayerd/fc33/ Looks like I have forgot to build it. I'll do it next week along with a new release with some minor fixes. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
mikel Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Hello @Miska I am planning to build a HQPlayer Renderer with HQPlayer embedded. I am no linux expert so there seem to be different distributions people use. What linux distro could you recommend for the following rough build specs: - AMD 5600x - Gigybyte Board with B550 chipset, tbd - Wifi connection to network - 16 Gb Ram (should be enough?) My goal is to have efficient upsampling to DSD256 with ASDM7EC modulator without hickups. Or do you have a ready to go image that could be used as well? Thanks, Mike Link to comment
Miska Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 40 minutes ago, mikel said: I am no linux expert so there seem to be different distributions people use. What linux distro could you recommend for the following rough build specs: - AMD 5600x - Gigybyte Board with B550 chipset, tbd - Wifi connection to network - 16 Gb Ram (should be enough?) My goal is to have efficient upsampling to DSD256 with ASDM7EC modulator without hickups. Or do you have a ready to go image that could be used as well? Either Ubuntu Server 20.04 (minimal install, with just SSH Server), or Fedora 33 Minimal (Server installer but installing only minimal system, not full server). Ubuntu if you want something that doesn't change much for longer period of time. Or Fedora if you want bleeding edge latest things. mikel 1 Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
luisma Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 21 hours ago, mikel said: Gigybyte Board with B550 chipset, tbd See if you can get a B550 with no Realtek on board, maybe not from Gigabyte Link to comment
mikel Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 thanks... just realized that the 5600x does not have integrated GPU.... that will probably push me toward a Intel i5-10600 with similar thermal rating... unless I use the 5600x as a headless system and remove discrete GPU once the system is running. I really want to go as minimal as possible. Any insight of Intel 10600 vs 5600x and using headless linux vs not? Thanks, Mike Link to comment
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